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theoriginalupstate

Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on November 12, 2007, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 12, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
ok gents- scouting report on Hobart--any thoughts?

I will say this- after watching Fisher this year and especially on Sat, that defense is going to be hard to score on.  
Played a great game, not to forget the special teams------wow--- punter played out of his mind and S.S looked like he could have broken every one of the kickoffs!!!!!

I'm working on a preview.  Will get it out ASAP.

Awesome let us know, we havent played you guys since 03 so we're not too familiar with the statesmen lately....

Knightstalker

They have Pumpkin Heads.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

theicdubbz

Another example of why Peggy should stay one more year!


[size=06pt](peggy at cortaca)[/size]

for those of you who do not know, this is IC's president and she is retiring this year after leading ithaca for about 9 years.  she is the reason for 3 new academic buildings and a new Bomber athletic Field house.  She ahs been a loyal supporter of the FDC since the beginning.  She even sports FDC t-shirts while accepting student donation checks.   Rowdy has that photo somewhere.

Toph

Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: Toph on November 12, 2007, 11:19:19 AM
 You can be fired up about being in the playoffs, you can root hard for Ithaca, but if you say they're going to win, you better tell me how.

What exactly does this mean, anyway? Are you in a position of eminence where someone needs to make a prediction and have you be the arbiter? I'm not being confrontational, I honestly don't understand the "you better tell me now" comment...it's almost like you're talking down to people who believe in and root for Ithaca.

I said "Tell me how" not "tell me now."  If you think Ithaca is going win, tell me how they are going to do it.  I'm not being condescending, I just want to understand where the 14 people who say that Ithaca will win are coming from.

Rowdy-

Cortland this ain't.


I agree that "anything can happen" when you play a game between two teams, but if you're going to make a realistic prediction these teams just plain don't match up.

dewcrew88

Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:30:23 AM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:19:02 AM

RT did you get my pm

I did..and I appreciate the offer. I'm not sure how the week is shaping up yet...you said it's for Friday, right?


Thursday...if you don't want em...I will offer them to dewcrew next

ah..bummer but Thur wont work :(

I appreciate it though!! Maybe we'll have an RPI/SJF matchup and the loser buys a garbage plate!!!!

are you going to the game on Saturday, I am thinking of showing up
and dew check your pm

Checked it, and responded... Thursday's not going to work, but thanks for the offer... I may also be at the RPI/TCNJ game on Saturday.. what time is the start? I think it's noon.

Senor RedTackle

Quote from: dewcrew88 on November 12, 2007, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:30:23 AM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:19:02 AM

RT did you get my pm

I did..and I appreciate the offer. I'm not sure how the week is shaping up yet...you said it's for Friday, right?


Thursday...if you don't want em...I will offer them to dewcrew next

ah..bummer but Thur wont work :(

I appreciate it though!! Maybe we'll have an RPI/SJF matchup and the loser buys a garbage plate!!!!

are you going to the game on Saturday, I am thinking of showing up
and dew check your pm

Checked it, and responded... Thursday's not going to work, but thanks for the offer... I may also be at the RPI/TCNJ game on Saturday.. what time is the start? I think it's noon.

12pm kickoff. RT is trying to put together another pig roast....

sjfcards

I really know nothing about Hobart, but from what I can tell with limited time to research, they look like a real tough first round opponent. Like opponents they have basically done the same thing as Fisher against, and they have won 7 games in a row. Tough for Fisher to have to play the 5 seed in the first round.
GO FISHER!!!

superman57

Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: dewcrew88 on November 12, 2007, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:30:23 AM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: superman57 on November 12, 2007, 11:19:02 AM

RT did you get my pm

I did..and I appreciate the offer. I'm not sure how the week is shaping up yet...you said it's for Friday, right?


Thursday...if you don't want em...I will offer them to dewcrew next

ah..bummer but Thur wont work :(

I appreciate it though!! Maybe we'll have an RPI/SJF matchup and the loser buys a garbage plate!!!!

are you going to the game on Saturday, I am thinking of showing up
and dew check your pm

Checked it, and responded... Thursday's not going to work, but thanks for the offer... I may also be at the RPI/TCNJ game on Saturday.. what time is the start? I think it's noon.

12pm kickoff. RT is trying to put together another pig roast....

RT superman would be in, let me know how much I will owe

and to RT and dew and anyone else in the albany area if you need tickets to Proctors, PM me first

SJF, it's gonna be Hobarts air game vs Fishers vaunted secondary
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

dewcrew88

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Quote from: Toph on November 12, 2007, 11:47:19 AM
Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 11:24:05 AM
Quote from: Toph on November 12, 2007, 11:19:19 AM
 You can be fired up about being in the playoffs, you can root hard for Ithaca, but if you say they're going to win, you better tell me how.

What exactly does this mean, anyway? Are you in a position of eminence where someone needs to make a prediction and have you be the arbiter? I'm not being confrontational, I honestly don't understand the "you better tell me now" comment...it's almost like you're talking down to people who believe in and root for Ithaca.

I said "Tell me how" not "tell me now."  If you think Ithaca is going win, tell me how they are going to do it.  I'm not being condescending, I just want to understand where the 14 people who say that Ithaca will win are coming from.

Rowdy-

Cortland this ain't.


I agree that "anything can happen" when you play a game between two teams, but if you're going to make a realistic prediction these teams just plain don't match up.

I'm going to jump in here and defend the East.

MUC may be the king of the "mountain," but I wouldn't count any of the other seven teams in the bracket out.

Ithaca is probably the toughest 8 seed in the bracket, and they have a ton of talent. IC will not be afraid to come up and punch you in the mouth a couple of times.
Jamie Donovan and Alex Baez are a talented 1-2 punch in the backfield and both have different running styles, making it tough for defenses to stop them.
Dan Juvan is a multiple year starter, so he's been through some big games. IC has a ton of good receivers including Brian Seamus Hogan and Patrick Heenenan, among others.

But if you manage to get through that, you'll face either TCNJ or RPI. TCNJ went 6-1 in the NJAC, one of the better conferences in the region, beating Cortland 30-0 along the way.

RPI won the LL, a league where four teams started the final day with a chance to win and get in. QB Jimmy Robertson is one of the top quarterbacks in the East and receiver Brendan McGowan is a big-play receiver, who might have some success against the MUC secondary.

If you get past that, you may have to face Hartwick, Curry, Hobart or St. John Fisher.
Hartwick's defense isn't terrific, as evidenced by my alma mater, Utica, scoring 70 on them, but they will run and gun and outscore you if they have to. Their QB, Jason Boltus, has thrown for 500 yards this year in a single game twice, and I believe, without looking it up, that they are one of the highest ranked offenses in Division III.
Lindy Crea is an all-purpose yards machine, and he will create some matchup issues.

Hobart is another Liberty League team who had to fight to get in. QB Andrew Strom has the power to beat a team with his arm and his feet. Strom also has a plethora of receivers to get the ball to, but they can also be a team to grind it out a little bit and really make you work for it.

MUC fans know about St. John Fisher, and you'll learn even more in 2008 when you guys face off on opening weekend.

Another high powered offense from the Empire 8, the Cardinals have Rob Kramer at quarterback, one of the top quarterbacks in the region. They have a two-headed rushing attack with Ryan Hanson and James Reile, and both backs can create matchup issues because they have different running styles. The Cardinals have a big o-line that can play with any defensive line, and not be intimidated in the least.

I know MUC is good. I know MUC is dominant. But don't tell me for a second they are going to waltz through this bracket, because it's just not going to happen.
Hopefully that is realistic enough.

fisheralum91


dewcrew88


realistic

Quote from: theicdubbz on November 12, 2007, 11:45:19 AM
Another example of why Peggy should stay one more year!


[size=06pt](peggy at cortaca)[/size]

for those of you who do not know, this is IC's president and she is retiring this year after leading ithaca for about 9 years.  she is the reason for 3 new academic buildings and a new Bomber athletic Field house.  She ahs been a loyal supporter of the FDC since the beginning.  She even sports FDC t-shirts while accepting student donation checks.   Rowdy has that photo somewhere.


great pic dubz...Peggy has always been a loyal supporter of IC Athletics, this pic could have been taken at many different games over the years.  Peggy was actually reponsible for a lot of dead air on a ICTV broadcast I did play by play for b/c she was jumping up and down like that in front of our wide shot and you kept seeing her curly hair bounce in and out of frame.  It was hysterical.

fisheralum91

looking back at the timing of Fishers bye week- it couldnt have happened at a better time!!

Tags

Last year in Alliance some dood that was sitting behind me kept yelling "come on, finish 'em, put the hammer down"...

He yelled it in the 1st qtr. He yelled it in the 2nd qtr. He yelled it in the 3rd qtr. And he yelled it in the 4th qtr.

Want to know why he had to yell it (in my ear) each quarter until the final gun sounded? B/c they couldn't "put the hammer down", they couldn't beat Fisher 55-3 like everyone thought they were going to see. And if you say they didn't try to pound Fisher and end it early, you're only kidding yourself.

My point is that the top teams in the East can play ball with these teams, and this year is another opportunity for us to show that.

fisheralum91

another *golf clap*!