FB: Empire 8

[pg04]

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[sjfcards]

Am I incorrect in the assumption that Juvan is only a slightly above average QB?

I think Juvan may have the most physical ability/natural talent of any quarterback I have seen in the last 7 years. He is a big strong kid with a cannon for an arm. For some reason however, he has just seemed to find a way to be more average than great. Weather it is the wrong read, or just missing open recievers at times, he has struggled more than a player like that on a team like that should the last two years.

Now, having said all that. The last 5-6 games this year, from what I can tell (I did not watch all of the games or follow them more than normal), Juvan looks like he has maybe turned a corner and is starting to live up to his potential.

I think the best way to describe him thus far is slightly above average as a QB. But the potential is there for a huge season any time he is the QB at ithaca. 

[superman57]

Am I incorrect in the assumption that Juvan is only a slightly above average QB?

I think Juvan may have the most physical ability/natural talent of any quarterback I have seen in the last 7 years. He is a big strong kid with a cannon for an arm. For some reason however, he has just seemed to find a way to be more average than great. Weather it is the wrong read, or just missing open recievers at times, he has struggled more than a player like that on a team like that should the last two years.

Now, having said all that. The last 5-6 games this year, from what I can tell (I did not watch all of the games or follow them more than normal), Juvan looks like he has maybe turned a corner and is starting to live up to his potential.

I think the best way to describe him thus far is slightly above average as a QB. But the potential is there for a huge season any time he is the QB at ithaca. 

Juvon= Next Ithaca God

[TheeBuffaloSabres]

whats the word on scalice and will the bills keep it closer with the pats then ithica did with the purps

[superman57]

Mount Union=


Fisher=

[theaprof]

Superman57--Let's see if we both make it to the game before we start making those kind of predictions.

I don't have the IT knowledge to do the picture thing, but if I could figure out how to post pix, I would post Fisher as the Witch of the East and Mount as the house that is about to land on her--but I don't want to make any statements like that until we're both in the game!

[pg04]

Yeah if I were fisher I wouldn't be too quick to overlook Curry.  While the smart money would have Fisher crushing them, we still don't know all that much about them at all. 

[superman57]

not overlooking, just confident enough that Fisher is the last team in the east that can give mount a run for their money... If it is not Fisher in Alliance on Dec 1st... then they might as well start heading to Virgina next week

[Frank Rossi]

OK folks...I'm going to show you the scoring summary from the Hartwick/Curry game yesterday -- somebody tell me what the weird stats are in this scoring sheet:

1st 14:45 CUR - Tim Bloniasz 83 yd kickoff return (David Vincent kick)
                                                                          HARTWICK 0 - CUR 7
    10:04 CUR - R Van De Giesen 1 yd run (David Vincent kick)
                                            5 plays, 42 yards, TOP 1:50, HARTWICK 0 - CUR 14
    06:39 CUR - R Van De Giesen 4 yd run (David Vincent kick)
                                            5 plays, 17 yards, TOP 2:04, HARTWICK 0 - CUR 21
    05:00 CUR - Steve DiFabio 16 yd pass from R Van De Giesen (David Vincent kick)
                                             1 play, 16 yards, TOP 0:09, HARTWICK 0 - CUR 28
2nd 00:01 CUR - Felix Borukhov 5 yd pass from R Van De Giesen (David Vincent kick)
                                              1 play, 5 yards, TOP 0:04, HARTWICK 0 - CUR 35
3rd 07:41 HARTWICK - Joe Rocco 65 yd pass from Jason Boltus (Ryan Boyea kick)
                                             1 play, 65 yards, TOP 0:15, HARTWICK 7 - CUR 35
    01:25 CUR - Felix Borukhov 85 yd pass from R Van De Giesen (David Vincent kick)
                                            2 plays, 98 yards, TOP 0:30, HARTWICK 7 - CUR 42
4th 13:29 HARTWICK - Jack Phelan 36 yd pass from Jason Boltus (Ryan Boyea kick)
                                           2 plays, 47 yards, TOP 0:40, HARTWICK 14 - CUR 42
    05:05 HARTWICK - Ryan Yetto 2 yd pass from Jason Boltus (Ryan Boyea kick)
                                           7 plays, 65 yards, TOP 1:14, HARTWICK 21 - CUR 42

[Pat Coleman]

All the short scoring drives ... is that what you're looking for?

[lewdogg11]

David Vincent kicks all the extra points?

[Frank Rossi]

All the short scoring drives ... is that what you're looking for?

Damn you're good Guru!

Each scoring drive averaged 45 seconds, to be exact.  Fisher will have their way with Curry is my thought, as Hartwick just folded from the opening kickoff forward.

[Boxer7806]

i wouldnt be so sure... sjf is a stud of a team and will most likely win the game but i think Curry will suprise some ppl and keep the game closer then most people will expect... the game is going to be focused on Curry's D who forced alot of turnovers this season and set up a short field for the O all day against Hartwick... if Curry D can hold sjf to 21 pts or less they have a real shot at winning the game... if they cant and the size and depth of sjf (which is bigger then Curry has seen all year) wears down their D then this game could get ugly

SJF D has just been dominant and i dont see Curry gettin more than 21 off their D the way they have been playin of late ... SJF is too big up front to run against and they have one of the best if not the best secondary in the East - mount union included since they are in the bracket

[Ralph Turner]

Pat's usual answer to this is, don't violate the terms of service:
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...
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[boobyhasgameyo]

i wouldnt be so sure... sjf is a stud of a team and will most likely win the game but i think Curry will suprise some ppl and keep the game closer then most people will expect... the game is going to be focused on Curry's D who forced alot of turnovers this season and set up a short field for the O all day against Hartwick... if Curry D can hold sjf to 21 pts or less they have a real shot at winning the game... if they cant and the size and depth of sjf (which is bigger then Curry has seen all year) wears down their D then this game could get ugly

SJF D has just been dominant and i dont see Curry gettin more than 21 off their D the way they have been playin of late ... SJF is too big up front to run against and they have one of the best if not the best secondary in the East - mount union included since they are in the bracket

Keep St. John Fisher to 21 or under is going to be a tall task and something nobody has done this year.  While the Fisher offense is prone to struggling at times during games they manage to break through one way or another.  Hobart held them to a season low 24 points last week, but Fisher had 3 uncharacteristic turnovers all within the red zone.  I am excited to see Curry in person, can't wait until Saturday