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[BoSox0322]

I think anyone accusing dewcrew of being a homer, or anything like that, hasn't been paying much attention to his column or these boards.

And the truth is nobody REALLY knows who the best team is of IC-SJF-HC. They're all incredibly inconsistent. We're not going to know for a couple weeks yet either, so let's sit back and watch the games.

thats fair... i dont live on these boards i just check once inawhile during the season but its just from what i've seen

[BoSox0322]

I just think Wick stands for complete consistency and should never be doubted or slighted in the least. Losing to WNEC, giving up 70 to Utica (07), 69 to IC (08) and a solid victory over WNEC, to go along with an outstanding OOC schedule I cannot see how anyone would question them period. Oh yeah I forgot the solid showing in the NCAAs last season against Curry. Curry by the way is ranked in the top 25 in the AFCA poll (which I find funny). In actuality aside from my sarcastic banter I love seeing Boltus and Phelan doing so well. I just get annoyed when people think they have done anything worth recieving serious East respect. When they become consistent and don't lose to NEFC teams for longer than a year or two things will change. By the way dewcrew does a solid job of being objective and writing creative ATE articles week in and week out. Sorry K-Mack you rock to but I live for ATE even over ATN (maybe I just said that because you are passing on the shoes game). Just kidding, both you guys are solid.

great point... so with this opinion I'm just going to stop pulling for hartwick until they at least have ten undefeated seasons in a row... because thats the only way for a team to have "east respect". 

[BoSox0322]

I think anyone accusing dewcrew of being a homer, or anything like that, hasn't been paying much attention to his column or these boards.

And the truth is nobody REALLY knows who the best team is of IC-SJF-HC. They're all incredibly inconsistent. We're not going to know for a couple weeks yet either, so let's sit back and watch the games.

Let's be honest:  dewcrew is a homer as much as I'm a Union guy and RT is an RPI guy and JU is an Ithaca guy at heart.   However, we all try beyond what is necessary to remove the appearance of that bias when we are doing broader jobs that don't focus on those schools specifically (well, JU hasn't impressed me much on that one yet -- he's still Ithaca-centric to the max ).  But my earlier post was a joke about Utica -- if he were writing about Utica in the final week of the season, there'd be an issue there.  However, what else should he have written about last week?  The endless three-way tie in the E8?  That's a bridge to cross later in the season.  In other words, back off Dewcrew -- he's doing a good job removing his appearance of bias.  'nuff said on this one.

couldnt agree more

[BoSox0322]

ok that was entirely too much babble about hartwick.  the only solace that i have is that this discussion will be moot next year because the wick will be back to normal-bad

Bad huh?  Last ten meetings between Hartwick and St John Fisher... Hartwick leads the series 6-4.... so whats that make you?

[dlippiel]

I just think Wick stands for complete consistency and should never be doubted or slighted in the least. Losing to WNEC, giving up 70 to Utica (07), 69 to IC (08) and a solid victory over WNEC, to go along with an outstanding OOC schedule I cannot see how anyone would question them period. Oh yeah I forgot the solid showing in the NCAAs last season against Curry. Curry by the way is ranked in the top 25 in the AFCA poll (which I find funny). In actuality aside from my sarcastic banter I love seeing Boltus and Phelan doing so well. I just get annoyed when people think they have done anything worth recieving serious East respect. When they become consistent and don't lose to NEFC teams for longer than a year or two things will change. By the way dewcrew does a solid job of being objective and writing creative ATE articles week in and week out. Sorry K-Mack you rock to but I live for ATE even over ATN (maybe I just said that because you are passing on the shoes game). Just kidding, both you guys are solid.

great point... so with this opinion I'm just going to stop pulling for hartwick until they at least have ten undefeated seasons in a row... because thats the only way for a team to have "east respect". 

no nine undefeated seasons. God where did you get 10 from?

[Frank Rossi]

I was kidding because still, no hypothesis (Ithaca is better than Hartwick, SJF is better than Ithaca, Hartwick is better than SJF), can be logically deduced based on any of our specific observations.  

Are you trying to make be logically induce that Ithaca should be ranked higher than these teams?  Because you and I know that cannont be done.

Can we just agree that all polls use inductive reasoning and therfore the problem of induction will always exist making any arguement in a case like (Ithaca/Hartwick/SJF) problamatic?

Yes, as long as you respect people who argue that it's possible for Hartwick to be considered better than Ithaca for polling purposes currently.

[BoSox0322]

I just think Wick stands for complete consistency and should never be doubted or slighted in the least. Losing to WNEC, giving up 70 to Utica (07), 69 to IC (08) and a solid victory over WNEC, to go along with an outstanding OOC schedule I cannot see how anyone would question them period. Oh yeah I forgot the solid showing in the NCAAs last season against Curry. Curry by the way is ranked in the top 25 in the AFCA poll (which I find funny). In actuality aside from my sarcastic banter I love seeing Boltus and Phelan doing so well. I just get annoyed when people think they have done anything worth recieving serious East respect. When they become consistent and don't lose to NEFC teams for longer than a year or two things will change. By the way dewcrew does a solid job of being objective and writing creative ATE articles week in and week out. Sorry K-Mack you rock to but I live for ATE even over ATN (maybe I just said that because you are passing on the shoes game). Just kidding, both you guys are solid.

great point... so with this opinion I'm just going to stop pulling for hartwick until they at least have ten undefeated seasons in a row... because thats the only way for a team to have "east respect". 

no nine undefeated seasons. God where did you get 10 from?

i figured thats as high as you we able to count...

[fisheralum91]

bosox---it makes wick a non issue in my mind as i am tired of hearing about how fantastic they are.
working in oneonta anddealing with wick parents is enough to make me puke.
i will be happy to have things resume to normalcy.
what does that make me?
what the hell was that?

[BoSox0322]

bosox---it makes wick a non issue in my mind as i am tired of hearing about how fantastic they are.
working in oneonta anddealing with wick parents is enough to make me puke.
i will be happy to have things resume to normalcy.
what does that make me?
what the hell was that?

you as in Fisher not you as a person... you are the one handing out the insults by saying "ok that was entirely too much babble about hartwick.  the only solace that i have is that this discussion will be moot next year because the wick will be back to normal-bad"
My comment replying to your insult is saying...i'll type slow so you can follow... You just wrote it is "normal" for hartwick to be "bad".  So if Hartwick has a winning record against Fisher over the last ten years and Hartwick is "bad"  what does that make Fisher?  Am i saying Fisher is bad... absolutley not... I'm just going by your logic

[maxpower]

I think anyone accusing dewcrew of being a homer, or anything like that, hasn't been paying much attention to his column or these boards.

And the truth is nobody REALLY knows who the best team is of IC-SJF-HC. They're all incredibly inconsistent. We're not going to know for a couple weeks yet either, so let's sit back and watch the games.

thats fair... i dont live on these boards i just check once inawhile during the season but its just from what i've seen

I live under these boards. It makes a racket at night sometimes.

[fisheralum91]

please type slow for me.
it is hard for this uneducated rube to keep up.
since it isnt in me to argue with other sox fans i wont and ill let you just go away.

[AUPepBand]

Alright, Pep has tomorrow off. AU has a bye. Should Pep attend the Springfield at Fisher game at Growney (and probably sit on the side where he can see) or does he go to Butter Field to see the Ithaca-Utica Club Mug(ging)?

Pep will await replies of Fisher/Bomber fans to see if he gets any tailgate (free meal) invites, then decide which has the better offer.

[BoSox0322]

please type slow for me.
it is hard for this uneducated rube to keep up.
since it isnt in me to argue with other sox fans i wont and ill let you just go away.

ok... you go ahead let me do that...

shhhoooter

[dlippiel]

I just think Wick stands for complete consistency and should never be doubted or slighted in the least. Losing to WNEC, giving up 70 to Utica (07), 69 to IC (08) and a solid victory over WNEC, to go along with an outstanding OOC schedule I cannot see how anyone would question them period. Oh yeah I forgot the solid showing in the NCAAs last season against Curry. Curry by the way is ranked in the top 25 in the AFCA poll (which I find funny). In actuality aside from my sarcastic banter I love seeing Boltus and Phelan doing so well. I just get annoyed when people think they have done anything worth recieving serious East respect. When they become consistent and don't lose to NEFC teams for longer than a year or two things will change. By the way dewcrew does a solid job of being objective and writing creative ATE articles week in and week out. Sorry K-Mack you rock to but I live for ATE even over ATN (maybe I just said that because you are passing on the shoes game). Just kidding, both you guys are solid.

great point... so with this opinion I'm just going to stop pulling for hartwick until they at least have ten undefeated seasons in a row... because thats the only way for a team to have "east respect". 

no nine undefeated seasons. God where did you get 10 from?

i figured thats as high as you we able to count...

Bosox no need to get personal with insults. To me that just shows that you realize that I am right in my assessment of Wick and where they belong. Dude I like Wick but I can handle the truth around them just like I can with my Dutchmen. Settle in and support your team but be able to handle the banter on the board. Also good luck when Boltus leaves. I will be glad to continue this conversation next year. By the way Wick will not amke it three in a row vs SJF next year! Enjoy your year and hopefully your team won't embarass the East as a whole this year by possibly winning the E8 and again, as I have stated so many times getting smoked by Curry.

[fisheralum91]

ok +k for the happy gilmore reference-
i will say this-- bosox if the shoe were on the other foot you would flip---trust me--