FB: Empire 8

[AUPepBand]

saxon8, you need to put down the purple kool aid. Please expand on the great football tradition in the E8 besides the 3 obvious NC's by the bombers. Buff State had a good run back in the day, and Hartwick passes alot, so they have that going for them.  Utica is brand new, SJF has been good the past 10 years but we know what they were like before that. Alfred is the prennial middle of the pack team in the E8, always waiting for that breakout season that never happens (see Rochester in the LL).

RPI, Union, Hobart, SLU, and Rochester have been playing eachother for decades. RPI/WPI have played over 100 games. No tradition there...

And without getting into who beat who in what year, I would say that the LL & E8 are at the very least on par with one another... fighting for the best in NY title each year.

It is evident that the hatred toward the "lesser" LL comes from Alfred's recent loss to RPI in the ECAC's.

haha alright alright... Purple Drink?... Its senior week, which means cheap beer.  Maybe I should invest in some of that purple drink because I have a serious headache right now.

Anyways, I can deal with a little razzing, all in good fun.  My comment on the traditions of better football in the E8 was pretty much historical, implying that schools in the E8 date back longer and honestly, I could be wrong.  I know Alfred dates back to the late 19th century (correct me if I'm wrong Pep) and Springfield has a pretty rich history as well.  Not to mention IC's national championships.  I cant say much about the traditions in the LL because honestly I dont know.  However, I wasnt saying they dont have great rivalries, I was simply talking about the history of football at the schools, which Alfred has one of the greatest in the Northeast, historically. 

As for the comment about the RPI loss, low blowwwww... It still stings    I'm not gonna sit on here and complain about it but we had the game won until one play, literally.  And I havent faired particularly well against Hobart in my career but I think the level of play is higher in the E8. Just my opinion.

Pep suggests that the demands of studying for Final Exams may have taken its toll on Saxon8. While Saxon8 spent many hours in the library, perhaps he should have done a little research or even "asked a certain library assistant" about Upstate NY football history before pitting the E8 football traditions against the LL's.

Both leagues, as such, have a short history. Many of both leagues' members, however, have storied pasts that go waaaaay back. Hobart and St. Lawrence were often opponents of the Saxons from the start (Pep believes Alfred began football in 1895) with Union, Rochester and RPI providing the opposition as well. All except UR at one time were members of a small Independent College Athletic Conference (ICAC) which went defunct when RPI, Union, St. Lawrence and Hobart left to form another conference, minus Ithaca and Alfred.

Ithaca College, with an enrollment around 6,000 and an outstanding phys ed program and athletic tradition, has been a real nemesis through the years for Li'l Alf. Not sure why the Bombers were excluded in the ICAC implosion but Pep believes Alfred was excluded because, quite frankly, there's little to gain for a college to send its football team out into the  backwoods of the state's second-poorest county....Allegany.

And in that regard, still no word on whether Hobart will accept AU's offer to meet on the gridiron this season on Oct. 17, an open date for both the Statesmen (nine games with four at home) and Saxons (nine games with five at home). Pep would love to make a trip to Geneva...a pretty drive through Cohocton, Naples, and the cabbage patches.

[Bombers798891]

Regarding IC's dominance in the empire 8 outside of baseball...

Let's take the last 5 years, so it's even in each sport, although certain sports could go back much farther with their "domination" (Regular season records only)

Men's Lax

2005: 7-0
2006: 7-0
2007: 7-0
2008: 6-1
2009: 7-1

Total: 27-2

Men's Soccer

2004: 6-0
2005: 6-0
2006: 5-1
2007: 3-3
2008: 5-0-2

Total: 25-4-2

Softball

2005: 10-2
2006: 12-0
2007: 12-0
2008: 12-0
2009: 10-2

Total 56-4

Women's Soccer

2004: 6-0-1
2005: 6-0-1
2006: 7-0-0
2007: 8-0-0
2008: 7-1-0

Total 34-1-2

Men's Tennis

2005: 5-1
2006: 4-1
2007: 4-1
2008: 7-1
2009: 8-0

Total 28-4

Women's Tennis

2005: 3-0
2006: 4-0
2007: 4-0
2008: 7-0
2009: 8-0

Total: 26-0

Volleyball

2004: 3-0
2005: 7-0
2006: 6-1
2007: 5-3
2008: 3-3

Total 24-7

Women's Basketball

2005: 12-1
2006: 9-5
2007: 10-4
2008: 14-2
2009: 13-3

Total: 58-15

Combined conference record of eight sports over the last 5 years:

278-37-4 (.871) 18 undefeated seasons out of 40 total

Yeah, what are the Bombers thinking? Other then baseball, their teams are just not that dominant in anything. Now of course, some of these teams struggle in the conference postseason, but how many other E8 teams can trot out a winning percentage like that? Obviously, baseball and football are no slouches either. In the last five years, I doubt anyone can match those kinds of numbers (although you can prove me wrong)

Also, yes, some of those sports are what you may call, "fringe" sports, but they all make up a school's athletic program, and Ithaca has a strong showing in many sports across the board (This doesn't even take into account Women's crew, Wrestling, Women's swimming, and Women's track programs, all traditionally very strong) Ithaca is the only E8 school to finish in the Top 30 of the Directors Cup standings all 12 years of it's existence. Sport for sport, I'd put IC up against any other E8 school.

Ithaca College would not be displaying arrogance if they left the E8.

thanks for the IC encyclopedia brittanica...do I get a free gift with my order?

Well played...

Perhaps I went over the top, but hey, if people want to ask things like "What sport other then baseball is IC dominant in" I always find that using, you know, facts, is better than just firing off opinions backed up by nothing. Never seems to go over well on message boards. Next time I'll just respond with "IC is awesome! Everyone else sucks!"

[Bombers798891]

saxon8, you need to put down the purple kool aid. Please expand on the great football tradition in the E8 besides the 3 obvious NC's by the bombers. Buff State had a good run back in the day, and Hartwick passes alot, so they have that going for them.  Utica is brand new, SJF has been good the past 10 years but we know what they were like before that. Alfred is the prennial middle of the pack team in the E8, always waiting for that breakout season that never happens (see Rochester in the LL).

RPI, Union, Hobart, SLU, and Rochester have been playing eachother for decades. RPI/WPI have played over 100 games. No tradition there...

And without getting into who beat who in what year, I would say that the LL & E8 are at the very least on par with one another... fighting for the best in NY title each year.

It is evident that the hatred toward the "lesser" LL comes from Alfred's recent loss to RPI in the ECAC's.

haha alright alright... Purple Drink?... Its senior week, which means cheap beer.  Maybe I should invest in some of that purple drink because I have a serious headache right now.

Anyways, I can deal with a little razzing, all in good fun.  My comment on the traditions of better football in the E8 was pretty much historical, implying that schools in the E8 date back longer and honestly, I could be wrong.  I know Alfred dates back to the late 19th century (correct me if I'm wrong Pep) and Springfield has a pretty rich history as well.  Not to mention IC's national championships.  I cant say much about the traditions in the LL because honestly I dont know.  However, I wasnt saying they dont have great rivalries, I was simply talking about the history of football at the schools, which Alfred has one of the greatest in the Northeast, historically. 

As for the comment about the RPI loss, low blowwwww... It still stings    I'm not gonna sit on here and complain about it but we had the game won until one play, literally.  And I havent faired particularly well against Hobart in my career but I think the level of play is higher in the E8. Just my opinion.

Pep suggests that the demands of studying for Final Exams may have taken its toll on Saxon8. While Saxon8 spent many hours in the library, perhaps he should have done a little research or even "asked a certain library assistant" about Upstate NY football history before pitting the E8 football traditions against the LL's.

Both leagues, as such, have a short history. Many of both leagues' members, however, have storied pasts that go waaaaay back. Hobart and St. Lawrence were often opponents of the Saxons from the start (Pep believes Alfred began football in 1895) with Union, Rochester and RPI providing the opposition as well. All except UR at one time were members of a small Independent College Athletic Conference (ICAC) which went defunct when RPI, Union, St. Lawrence and Hobart left to form another conference, minus Ithaca and Alfred.

Ithaca College, with an enrollment around 6,000 and an outstanding phys ed program and athletic tradition, has been a real nemesis through the years for Li'l Alf. Not sure why the Bombers were excluded in the ICAC implosion but Pep believes Alfred was excluded because, quite frankly, there's little to gain for a college to send its football team out into the  backwoods of the state's second-poorest county....Allegany.

And in that regard, still no word on whether Hobart will accept AU's offer to meet on the gridiron this season on Oct. 17, an open date for both the Statesmen (nine games with four at home) and Saxons (nine games with five at home). Pep would love to make a trip to Geneva...a pretty drive through Cohocton, Naples, and the cabbage patches.

Pep--

Rumor is that IC has 2,150 freshman deposits right now so that enrollment figure may tick up a bit north of 6,000

[AUPepBand]

Meanwhile, back in Saxonville, Pep hears rumors of a drop in freshman deposits....yikes. Pep is hoping it's not true.

Incidentally, the E8PP can now address Pep as "Grandpa Pep" as Noah Austin, a 5 lb. 11 oz. one month premature bouncing baby boy made his way into this world at 9:59 a.m. Friday, May 15, 2009. If the doctor isn't there to make the catch, is one obligated to pay the doctor's fee? Noah didn't wait for the doctor... Everyone's doing fine as Pep officially becomes a grandfather for the first time...and pulls out pictures for strangers everywhere. (Will post one here later.)

[Knightstalker]

Meanwhile, back in Saxonville, Pep hears rumors of a drop in freshman deposits....yikes. Pep is hoping it's not true.

Incidentally, the E8PP can now address Pep as "Grandpa Pep" as Noah Austin, a 5 lb. 11 oz. one month premature bouncing baby boy made his way into this world at 9:59 a.m. Friday, May 15, 2009. If the doctor isn't there to make the catch, is one obligated to pay the doctor's fee? Noah didn't wait for the doctor... Everyone's doing fine as Pep officially becomes a grandfather for the first time...and pulls out pictures for strangers everywhere. (Will post one here later.)

Congrats GranpappyPep, hope all are well and healthy.

[fisheralum91]

congrats pep!

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Congratulation Papa (what my kids call their Grandpa)!

[AUPepBand]

No cigars to distribute, so +K for all!

[Tags]

No cigars to distribute, so +K for all!

Congrats Pep, spoil him rotten 

[union89]

No cigars to distribute, so +K for all!

Congrats Pep....you must be very proud.

[Timz81]

Hey E8ers,

I posted about the CDFL earlier last football season for some feedback, I would like to thank those of you who responded and I also wanted to give you guys some updates about where we're at now: We currently have registered athletes from 14 states and 2 countries! We've held 2 clinics and 2 7-on-7s and we have Rutgers looking at 5 of our players. We're scheduled to have our first game in early July and our championship in mid August. We are still accepting athletes so if you know any males ages 18-24 that can benefit from our service please let them know! Feel free to check out our website too, www.playcdfl.com. Thanks guys, God bless.

Congrats Pep.

[dlippiel]

Nice Pep congrats!

[HScoach]

Pep:  Congrats from an OAC outsider.

[AUPepBand]

Thanks, all! 

[BoSox0322]

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