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[SJFF82]

I disagree 82, and not just for the sake of argument.  Big time college athletics generate revenue by providing a product you can't find anywhere else.  They shouldn't have to subsidize other college athletics.

The great thing about D3 is that it is different than D1.  Some funky profit sharing deal would only blunt that.

Well I kinda agree with you, except you are getting way beyond the scope of the reason why I made the original comments I made.  This thread began with me merely commenting that some travel pay from the wealthy NCAA may assist in more favorable bracket seedings.  I am not looking for big time college athletics, bowl games, sneaker deals and actual bathrooms at Growney.

BTW...you are also mixing arguments by interchanging the NCAA and the actual individual athletic programs.  I agree that the schools themselves earn their buck and should keep their buck.  I have been specifically referring to the NCAA as an organization.  That is an organization that has billions of dollars from college athletics as a whole, and Fisher and Ithaca and Galludet and MUC and all our D3 breathren pay for and belong to the NCAA.  Their logo is on our fields come play-off time so the money should show up too.

[SJFF82]

I disagree 82, and not just for the sake of argument.  Big time college athletics generate revenue by providing a product you can't find anywhere else.  They shouldn't have to subsidize other college athletics.

The great thing about D3 is that it is different than D1.  Some funky profit sharing deal would only blunt that.

Didn't the most recent NCAA figures point out that only 25% of D-I schools athletic departments turned a profit? I thought I read that on ESPN.com

Yeh the other 75% spent the 15 billion that would have been profit on bonuses, perks, salary upgrades, endowment deposits, etc, in order to show a paper 'loss' at the end of the year.  My gosh, the only industries making money in this country are Universities, Hospitals/Medical/Pharma and the Govt.  The rest of us are pissin in port-a-potties at D3 football games on Saterdays.

[SJFF82]

I disagree 82, and not just for the sake of argument.  Big time college athletics generate revenue by providing a product you can't find anywhere else.  They shouldn't have to subsidize other college athletics.

The great thing about D3 is that it is different than D1.  Some funky profit sharing deal would only blunt that.

Didn't the most recent NCAA figures point out that only 25% of D-I schools athletic departments turned a profit? I thought I read that on ESPN.com

My small firm would struggle to 'turn' a profit if we were paying our head 'football coach' 6 million a year also.  Its called 'cookin the books'.

[JQV]

82's right Bombers, those numbers get skewed.

For example, a friend that played safety on a recent BCS Champion told me about all the money the football program spent during bowl week so they wouldn't have to the BCS paycheck over to the rest of the athletic department.

[SJFF82]

82's right Bombers, those numbers get skewed.

For example, a friend that played safety on a recent BCS Champion told me about all the money the football program spent during bowl week so they wouldn't have to the BCS paycheck over to the rest of the athletic department.

thanks for some real life back-up to my often theoretical arguments that I dont even know can be supported 

+k

[SJFF82]

oops...gotta get you some k tomorrow

[SJFF82]

geez I am passin out k to Ithaca posters like it is Christmas...enjoy it now cuz you know what happens come game week 

[Jonny Utah]

82's right Bombers, those numbers get skewed.

For example, a friend that played safety on a recent BCS Champion told me about all the money the football program spent during bowl week so they wouldn't have to the BCS paycheck over to the rest of the athletic department.

Dont know how many IC grads took 'Intro to Sports Management' with Dr. Blann, but he used to harp on this issue all the time.

From what I remember, (And what other people are saying here), the numbers are twisted so it looks like the schools aren't making any money.  But they are, they just spend everything that they make by the end of the year!

BU hockey is a great example around where I live.  The school just built a 30 million dollar Ice rink and arena.  Does that come out of the hockey budget as money spent?  If it does, you can bet hockey loses money, even if you divide up the yearly payments.  If it doesn't, then the numbers probably show that hockey makes money.

[JQV]

'Intro to Sports Management' with Dr. Blann

That class was awesome.

If you could just remember that college sports is everything wrong and evil with the world, then you could get an A in that class.

I took it my freshman year and some of my teammates told me not to buy the textbook.  Second question on the final was "what is the picture on the front of the textbook?"  Apparently, Blann knew his reputation.

[union89]

'Intro to Sports Management' with Dr. Blann

That class was awesome.

If you could just remember that college sports is everything wrong and evil with the world, then you could get an A in that class.

I took it my freshman year and some of my teammates told me not to buy the textbook.  Second question on the final was "what is the picture on the front of the textbook?"  Apparently, Blann knew his reputation.

Is there any difference in an Ithaca/Cortland St. education??

[theoriginalupstate]

'Intro to Sports Management' with Dr. Blann

That class was awesome.

If you could just remember that college sports is everything wrong and evil with the world, then you could get an A in that class.

I took it my freshman year and some of my teammates told me not to buy the textbook.  Second question on the final was "what is the picture on the front of the textbook?"  Apparently, Blann knew his reputation.

Is there any difference in an Ithaca/Cortland St. education??

Other than the $13,000 in tuition, not really...

[JQV]

Is there any difference in an Ithaca/Cortland St. education??

three key differences.

1) At Cortland, Intro to Sports Management is part of the graduate program.  You can only register for it once you complete your undergraduate degree in mouth-breathing.

2) No one at Cortland tells you not to buy the book.  The listener would not understand what he is not supposed to buy.  At Cortland, this sentence would only make sense if someone told a student in the class not to buy "that thing we color in for homework."

3) Cortland Sucks.

[SJFF82]

'Intro to Sports Management' with Dr. Blann

I took it my freshman year and some of my teammates told me not to buy the textbook.  Second question on the final was "what is the picture on the front of the textbook?"  Apparently, Blann knew his reputation.

love those stories...I am certain 82 woulda got that question wrong.

[union89]

Is there any difference in an Ithaca/Cortland St. education??

three key differences.

1) At Cortland, Intro to Sports Management is part of the graduate program.  You can only register for it once you complete your undergraduate degree in mouth-breathing.

2) No one at Cortland tells you not to buy the book.  The listener would not understand what he is not supposed to buy.  At Cortland, this sentence would only make sense if someone told a student in the class not to buy "that thing we color in for homework."

3) Cortland Sucks.

+1...'mouth breathing'....classic.

[maxpower]

not much action on the board..... i'm gonna take the time to vent about how pissed i still am about that bills game.....