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theoriginalupstate

Quote from: maxpower on September 17, 2009, 08:37:31 PM
not much action on the board..... i'm gonna take the time to vent about how pissed i still am about that bills game.....

What you don't like having the feeling of just being punched in the nuts still lingering around?

Every Bills fan should be used to it!

They played well, if they keep up that same level they just might have a winning season!

Chances of them playing like that all year are about the same as the chances of Trent staying healthy all year!

maxpower

There were flashes of brilliance, but they were negated by:

no o-line
a billion stupid penalties

which is just what has sunk every bills team with promise for the past ten years. why is this year different? (not sarcastic, i'd love to hear why....)

plus i'm seriously worried about the secondary. did randy moss miss a ball thrown to him the entire game?

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: maxpower on September 17, 2009, 08:46:13 PM
There were flashes of brilliance, but they were negated by:

no o-line
a billion stupid penalties

which is just what has sunk every bills team with promise for the past ten years. why is this year different? (not sarcastic, i'd love to hear why....)

plus i'm seriously worried about the secondary. did randy moss miss a ball thrown to him the entire game?

This year is different because of TO, way too many people bought into the hype.  He was just a ploy to sell season tickets and mask the retention of Jauron...

I actually think the O-line played very well, the interior guys were great.  I expected Bell to struggle, it's his first time ever playing, if he doesn't get flagged for those two Illegal Formation penalties he would have had a good game. 

The whole defensive scheme sucks, they are way too passive...




sjfcards

Well thanks for bringing up the Bills game again. I had just gotten over it. And now the anger and rage are back...

I am getting excited about the Fisher/U of R game this weekend. I am interested to see how Fisher follows up the woodshedding that they put on Buff State. You never know what to expect in a rivalry game, but I suspect that Fisher will pull out a win (hopefully pulling away).

Does anyone know anything about this Widener team that IC is playing this weekend? It looks like they were down last year, but they have been a solid program before that.

I will be in the alumni tent at the Courage Bowl this weekend. Stop by and see me. I will be the one in a Fisher shirt!!!
GO FISHER!!!

dewcrew88

Quote from: JoseQViper on September 17, 2009, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on September 17, 2009, 01:40:25 PM'Intro to Sports Management' with Dr. Blann

That class was awesome.

If you could just remember that college sports is everything wrong and evil with the world, then you could get an A in that class.

I took it my freshman year and some of my teammates told me not to buy the textbook.  Second question on the final was "what is the picture on the front of the textbook?"  Apparently, Blann knew his reputation.

I wish I could have taken a class like that.

BoSox0322

Quote from: Upstate on September 17, 2009, 09:05:12 PM
Quote from: maxpower on September 17, 2009, 08:46:13 PM
There were flashes of brilliance, but they were negated by:

no o-line
a billion stupid penalties

which is just what has sunk every bills team with promise for the past ten years. why is this year different? (not sarcastic, i'd love to hear why....)

plus i'm seriously worried about the secondary. did randy moss miss a ball thrown to him the entire game?

This year is different because of TO, way too many people bought into the hype.  He was just a ploy to sell season tickets and mask the retention of Jauron...

I actually think the O-line played very well, the interior guys were great.  I expected Bell to struggle, it's his first time ever playing, if he doesn't get flagged for those two Illegal Formation penalties he would have had a good game. 

The whole defensive scheme sucks, they are way too passive...





That game made me sick... but worse is TO making the bullsh*t passive aggressive comments about Edwards after the game... the guy is 36.  Will he ever grow up?  He has to be top five worst teammates of all time in any sport... what a scumbag

K-Mack

Quote from: JoseQViper on September 17, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on September 16, 2009, 09:17:52 PMHeck, all these D-I schedules get mapped 7-8 years in advance. I know it isn't like that for D-III, but still I mean, who knows right? Teams get terrible, teams get great, sometimes unexpectedly. And sometimes, the short timeframe renders expectation moot.

798891, I don't think there is a D1 equivalent here.  D1 programs don't fluctuate that much.  Some random schools put together good years every now and again but for the most part, the daddies stay the daddies (unless they do something stupid like Notre Dame and sign with NBC and giveaway all that conference money).

You are right about D3, the inability to truly "reload," because recruiting is much more difficult when kids have to cut checks, makes it fun.

Quote from: K-Mack on September 16, 2009, 11:12:03 PM
I understand what we're saying about the emphasis on regional competition as playoff criteria and then not having true regions in the playoffs. It's weird, but you have to separate the two. I've tried to stop calling them regional brackets because they don't have to be, and geography allows for a lot of crossover in the midwest, mid-Atlantic and Northeast.

I agree about Cortland last year too, FWIW.

KMack.

I think you are right about the Mount issue when you look at it from the North Region's perspective but we aren't inclined to think like that.  An unspoken part of the problem may be that there are only three teams with a realistic hope of winning the whole damn thing.  So, in the end, we are all playing for regional superiority and that gets hard to determine with the elephant in our region.

It leaves us to argue about strength of conference and key wins (which can at least occupy us during the down months) without one East Region Champion, that runs the gauntlet of East Region conferences, to go and face Mount in the Semis.

JQV,
I'm with you to an extent. But if you put the two points together, that D3 fluctuates more than D1, and there are only three teams capable of winning ... we can argue that we're due for some fluctuation.

Who's to say one of these years an East Region champ doesn't mess around and beat Mount Union? It can be done.
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BoSox0322

I havent been around much... is SJF strong as ever this year?  Who's the favorites for the league?

K-Mack

Quote from: JoseQViper on September 17, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
So, in the end, we are all playing for regional superiority and that gets hard to determine with the elephant in our region.

This is a good point though (and I see maxpower makes it too).

Former author, Around the Nation ('01-'13)
Managing Editor, Kickoff
Voter, Top 25/Play of the Week/Gagliardi Trophy/Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year
Nastradamus, Triple Take
and one of the two voices behind the sonic #d3fb nerdery that is the ATN Podcast.

K-Mack

Quote from: fisheralum91 on September 17, 2009, 11:49:21 AM
i agree with both bombers and jose--but will offer you this-
there is a reality to playing down to an opponent that you know you should beat....it is a mental thing--has happened to me not only on the field but on the golf course.

I back this. It's very real.

Was talking to a coach about it today ... there's only so much a coach can do to drill this into your heads though. Someone once told me that was one of Larry Kehres's big things, he insists on respecting the opponent even though we all know Mount is going to drill them 55-7.

I remember one time when Bridgewater was the easy W on the Randolph-Macon schedule, our coach took us out there Monday for our normal light conditioning jog. Except that day we did an "indian run" (jog around the perimeter of the field single file, and the person in the back of the line sprints to the front, and when he gets there, the next guy sprints up front, etc.)

So our coach at the time starts having a conversation with an alum or something at midfield and conveniently "forgets" to tell us to stop the Indian run for about 45 minutes.

Message delivered: We might be playing Bridgewater this week, but we are not F'ing around.
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Managing Editor, Kickoff
Voter, Top 25/Play of the Week/Gagliardi Trophy/Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year
Nastradamus, Triple Take
and one of the two voices behind the sonic #d3fb nerdery that is the ATN Podcast.

SJFF82

Quote from: K-Mack on September 18, 2009, 12:50:12 AM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on September 17, 2009, 11:49:21 AM
i agree with both bombers and jose--but will offer you this-
there is a reality to playing down to an opponent that you know you should beat....it is a mental thing--has happened to me not only on the field but on the golf course.

I back this. It's very real.

Was talking to a coach about it today ... there's only so much a coach can do to drill this into your heads though. Someone once told me that was one of Larry Kehres's big things, he insists on respecting the opponent even though we all know Mount is going to drill them 55-7.

I remember one time when Bridgewater was the easy W on the Randolph-Macon schedule, our coach took us out there Monday for our normal light conditioning jog. Except that day we did an "indian run" (jog around the perimeter of the field single file, and the person in the back of the line sprints to the front, and when he gets there, the next guy sprints up front, etc.)

So our coach at the time starts having a conversation with an alum or something at midfield and conveniently "forgets" to tell us to stop the Indian run for about 45 minutes.

Message delivered: We might be playing Bridgewater this week, but we are not F'ing around.

there aint nothing "convenient" about the Indian run....except for the 2-3 excessively large and out of shape OL that walk their way through their sprint portion making the run even longer for us light-weight WR's

SJFF82

Prediction:

FISHER 41

rochester 21

fisheralum91

82 lets hope that you are very right!!

dlippiel

Quote from: SJFF82 on September 18, 2009, 11:10:08 AM
Prediction:

FISHER 41

rochester 21

dlip concurrs with this prediciton. U of R just won't be able to hang with the Cardinals in 09. Of course to be honest dlip is pulling for UR here but knows that does not mean ****.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: dlippiel on September 18, 2009, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: SJFF82 on September 18, 2009, 11:10:08 AM
Prediction:

FISHER 41

rochester 21

dlip concurrs with this prediciton. U of R just won't be able to hang with the Cardinals in 09. Of course to be honest dlip is pulling for UR here but knows that does not mean ****.

Conference loyalties are expected!

I'm saying a 49-17 SJF win...

The game is on CBS in the Rochester area...