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[BoSox0322]

If Secky is healthy for the rest of the season, they win out.  He is extremely impressive.  If he played the whole game today it probably isn't that close. 

AU is the real deal and Secky is the most impressive QB I've seen this year. 

That'll be the question. If he and Hendrix are healthy, it's a 9-0 season. If not, it's an open race, for now.

Would 9-0 be enough for a #1?

I would say yes. Pat, I'm sure, will disagree with me, but if Alfred wins out in the E8, I don't think there's a way to import MUC.

Albright has the chance at going 10-0, so in theory if they do in fact end up with 10 wins (including one over a nationally ranked DVC squad), I think a 9-0 AU team would end up as a "#2 seed".

   Isgro was injured in yesterdays game and will get x-rayes on right shoulder today according to local newspapers. His replacement was 2 of 9 passing which could make DelVal a very one dimensional attack without him

Man, that's gonna be a tough sell on Alfred. The E8 isn't looking like the strongest conference this season. I could see a scenario where the entire conference except Alfred has three losses and with that OOC, they won't look good there. Maybe their best bet is Springfield running the table? At least then they'd have that win over a 8-1 Pride.

But let's say Springfield loses to IC and Fisher, Cortland beats IC and the Wick beats Utica but loses to Fisher (convoluted sure but this is like a worst case scenario). You'd have

Alfred 9-0
Fisher 7-3
Springfield 6-3
Ithaca 6-4
Hartwick 5-4
Utica 4-6 (assuming they  beat Mt. Ida)

That's a pretty ugly looking E8, and Alfred will have zero decent OOC wins. It'd be hard to find a truly impressive win. The best would probably be at Fisher.

Unfortunately, Alfred picked a bad year to put it all together (although maybe that's why they've be able to; who knows?) and the E8 is just not helping them at all. Ithaca beating Union would have helped a lot, but it's just a bad year for the conference

i really hope those injuries dont kill Alfred...

[BoSox0322]

Dlip i agree with you all the way. Alfred should get the #1 seed if they win out. The best chance for this to happen is if Springfield wins out which will be tough with Ithaca and SJF the next two weeks. If Springfield does win out, Is it correct to assume they will get a Pool C bid as a #7/8 seed in the east?

Honestly the only thing dlip can say with confidence about that is that if the Pride does win out (dlip would love this!) dlip feels they would be deserving of a bid with their only loss coming to Alfred on the road. Wins over SJF and even IC at this point would still impress dlip enough to feel that the Pride would warrent serious consideration.

if they win out they should get a look

[Boxer7806]

I just hope Springfield and Alfred win out... I think both teams could suprise some people in the playoffs.

[SJFF82]

Please remember all of you posters who are discussing post-season seedings and undefeated seasons, this is pretty heady stuff for us Alfred rooters.  I, for one, don't care about that stuff.  I hope the team enjoys this win, has a great week of practice and plays well against Rochester.  The point is to play well.  The wins and losses and seedings will take care of themselves if you play well. That beingsaid

On Saxon Warriors.

you're crusin for a brusin with that kind of attitude on here  ....although, this isnt the LLPP, so let's dial down the intellect a notch.

[fisheralum91]

ty- i hope you had a uc for me----
whoever jinxed spec teams best have some splainin to do

[AUPepBand]

Congrats to Alfred on cracking the top 25.

As an AU fan, thanks for the congrats! There was a day in recent years when Pep would be tickled that the Saxons had received national recognition....or be arguing about "lack of respect" if not being included. But Pep learned in 2007 that a team, with national recognition, gets a big target on its back. There's more incentive for an opponent to "prove itself" by beating a ranked team. So, in Pep's mind, anyway, it's not a big deal.

Thus, Pep diverts....and is still ecstatic that Ye Olde Pep Bandwagon completed a successful round trip to Rochester Saterday. When stopping to gas up in Almond, Pep noted to those in the bandwagon that when one drives a vehicle with 317,235 miles on it, even if it DID just pass inspection, filling it up with gasoline at $2.79/gallon is sort of like buying a lottery ticket. You really don't know whether you'll get a return on your investment. And, as we pulled out of the gas station, right on cue, the Bandwagon made some clunking noises that attracted the attention of its occupants. Pep assured them it was just arthritis in the old joints and they should be okay.

On Saxon Warriors...and On Pep Bandwagon!

[SJFF82]

ty- i hope you had a uc for me----
whoever jinxed spec teams best have some splainin to do

Ha...the specs ineptitude far preceded the "jinx" I put upon them earlier last week... 

[fisheralum91]

the mere fact that we were talking about it that early still has me wondering----what the heck were the coaches doing?
really.
cmon--do they not practice this stuff?
did you really need a freshman out there?
and when asked- the coach's response is that it was a freshman mistake?
really?
no sir it was a coach's mistake.

REALLY

[SJFF82]

the mere fact that we were talking about it that early still has me wondering----what the heck were the coach's doing?
really.
cmon--do they not practice this stuff?
did you really need a freshman out there?
and when asked- the coach's response is that it was a freshman mistake?
really?
no sir it was a coach's mistake.

REALLY

They were rotating returners, and it appeared to those I was with, Short (the freshman) was going in when the return was from around mid-field.  He does have some sick moves and they were prob. looking for a flashy return from that area of the field....makes sense I guess, except there must be a trust issue with his hands or decision making because why not just return all punts?

So the senior, Witkowski (sp?) returned all other punts and when the return team went out there with minutes to go and Short jogged back to the 10 yd line, we were all saying, "so why now at the 10 yd line in a tie game is he back there?"

It certainly isnt like we can give the specs teams' the benefit of the doubt this season. 

I will say this....in hindsight, it didnt cost us the game, unless we are to assume they score on that drive (instead of the fumbled punt) and stop AU on its final drive.  We did end up tying the game with 2 mins to go on a questionable catch in the back of the end zone and AU drove the field and scored on offense for the first time in the second half.  Somebody else hinted at this in an earlier post.


What cost more was going for it on 4th down at the 1 and coming away with zero in a 3 pt loss....hmmmm decisions, decisions?

[fisheralum91]

either scenerio was a nightmare-one that i hope to get past in the off season.
it was bad enough when the error happened- it was quite another to simply write it off as a freshman mistake.
as you said- it was a coaching decision to put him back there.

i know that im grumbling over an old issue- but man---that game was more than winable

[SJFF82]

either scenerio was a nightmare-one that i hope to get past in the off season.
it was bad enough when the error happened- it was quite another to simply write it off as a freshman mistake.
as you said- it was a coaching decision to put him back there.

i know that im grumbling over an old issue- but man---that game was more than winable

right before the muffed punt return, Episcipo dropped a for sure pick six all alone in the flats, and the quote from Vos. in the paper appeared to throw him under the bus for the muffed punt.  I can only hope the quote was entirely taken out of context, because if not I would sure be wondering if I were Episcipo why my coach openly blamed me for a kid who tries to pick up a rolling punt at the goal line with 2 opposing players bearing down, when he is not even the regular punt returner in the first place.

[fisheralum91]

MY POINT EXACTLY
that is the exact article that set me off.
thanks ty

[fisheralum91]

on a lighter note-now that fisher is gonna be out of the ncaa hunt--
my other alma mater - New Hartford- is looking like powerhouses in both football and soccer this year.

ranked 4 and 7 respectively in the state.
sectionals in progress..

[theoriginalupstate]

I like how it's a freshman mistake when it doesn't work...

Yet a couple years ago Senior Gerald Dias picked up a punt at the 3 yard line vs AU and raced 97 yards for the TD...

[fisheralum91]

football is a cyclical game there upstate