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[Pat Coleman]

I agree...that is a ludicrous example.  Kind of like saying that Wesley trying to schedule Wick is an example of them willing to play anyone.  They clearly are willing to do so...but them trying to schedule Wick is a terrible...or in your words...ludicrous example of them trying to do so.

And there it is..."spare us"...

No. 2 vs. No. 236
No. 3 vs. No. 104

Big difference. I don't need to waste my time with the hyperbole in this discussion. Clearly you are too worked up to have a discussion of the topic.

And remember, Hartwick made the playoffs recently, and it was not just this offseason that Wesley has been trying to schedule them.

[Pat Coleman]

I would have given Boltus a chance against those Wesley teams back in the day.  The point is Hartwick should be looking for those opportunities.

Bingo.

[fisheralum91]

IMHO in todays economic slide, long road trips to take on strong OOC teams are ( in some cases) being erased and replaced with the next best thing.  Salisb, and MUC on Fisher's schedule was amazing when it came to SOS and benchmark status, but tough to justify.
Do I like it, I dont know- getting smeared by MUC was rugged---Playing a home and home with Sals. was interesting.

[Pat Coleman]

Yeah, but come on. Wesley's not exactly taking on a challenge playing Hartwick. It's a automatic win for them. The MUC/Becker one was dumb, but Hartwick's been the 4th-best (or 5th depending on where you stick the pride) in their own conference over the past five years. You're not exactly comparing apples and apples here

It's more of a challenge than playing far more automatic Gallaudet or Open Date, which I can assure you was not something Wesley wanted to do.

[Jonny Utah]

Yeah, but come on. Wesley's not exactly taking on a challenge playing Hartwick. It's a automatic win for them. The MUC/Becker one was dumb, but Hartwick's been the 4th-best (or 5th depending on where you stick the pride) in their own conference over the past five years. You're not exactly comparing apples and apples here

It's more of a challenge than playing far more automatic Gallaudet or Open Date, which I can assure you was not something Wesley wanted to do.

Playing open date may have helped RPI this year

heeeeeey ohhhhhhhh

[fisheralum91]

Yeah, but come on. Wesley's not exactly taking on a challenge playing Hartwick. It's a automatic win for them. The MUC/Becker one was dumb, but Hartwick's been the 4th-best (or 5th depending on where you stick the pride) in their own conference over the past five years. You're not exactly comparing apples and apples here

It's more of a challenge than playing far more automatic Gallaudet or Open Date, which I can assure you was not something Wesley wanted to do.

Playing open date may have helped RPI this year

heeeeeey ohhhhhhhh

I think I know her - didnt she go to Naz?

[Bombers798891]

I agree...that is a ludicrous example.  Kind of like saying that Wesley trying to schedule Wick is an example of them willing to play anyone.  They clearly are willing to do so...but them trying to schedule Wick is a terrible...or in your words...ludicrous example of them trying to do so.

And there it is..."spare us"...

No. 2 vs. No. 236
No. 3 vs. No. 104

Big difference. I don't need to waste my time with the hyperbole in this discussion. Clearly you are too worked up to have a discussion of the topic.

And remember, Hartwick made the playoffs recently, and it was not just this offseason that Wesley has been trying to schedule them.

Pat, a 100 spot difference between Wesley and Wick indicates pretty clearly you're not comparing similar teams. The Hawks have made ONE trip to the NCAA's in recent years. And they were killed by Curry. Acting like they're in Wesley's class is simply wrong. They're not, and scheduling (and losing) that game helps no-one and proves nothing

[Yanks 99]

I agree...that is a ludicrous example.  Kind of like saying that Wesley trying to schedule Wick is an example of them willing to play anyone.  They clearly are willing to do so...but them trying to schedule Wick is a terrible...or in your words...ludicrous example of them trying to do so.

And there it is..."spare us"...

No. 2 vs. No. 236
No. 3 vs. No. 104

Big difference. I don't need to waste my time with the hyperbole in this discussion. Clearly you are too worked up to have a discussion of the topic.

And remember, Hartwick made the playoffs recently, and it was not just this offseason that Wesley has been trying to schedule them.

I can assure you Pat...I am hardly worked up over this.  It's a discussion board...I thought we were discussing our beliefs...that's all.  And I know Wesley has been trying to get a game with Wick for the past 3 years...but the administration there won't budge on the 9 games.  Why would the coaches there not want ten games?  Back in 2008 (which was the first year Wick went to 9 games), and going into Boltus' senior year, everyone at Hartwick knew that he had a shot at breaking the all time D3 passing record (which he did, even though that mark was passed by another QB that same year).  Knowing it would be close...why would the coaching staff say no to a game if they could help it???  That wouldn't make any sense.

Like I said...if MUC is put in our bracket this year...so be it.  Just not sure how the teams from the North Region are getting a pass in all of this...considering they are a combined 1-122 (not a typo...one win out of one hundred and twenty three contests) record against MUC over the past decade plus.  That seems worse than the East Region's 1-12 record over MUC during the same timeframe.

[Pat Coleman]

I agree...that is a ludicrous example.  Kind of like saying that Wesley trying to schedule Wick is an example of them willing to play anyone.  They clearly are willing to do so...but them trying to schedule Wick is a terrible...or in your words...ludicrous example of them trying to do so.

And there it is..."spare us"...

No. 2 vs. No. 236
No. 3 vs. No. 104

Big difference. I don't need to waste my time with the hyperbole in this discussion. Clearly you are too worked up to have a discussion of the topic.

And remember, Hartwick made the playoffs recently, and it was not just this offseason that Wesley has been trying to schedule them.

Pat, a 100 spot difference between Wesley and Wick indicates pretty clearly you're not comparing similar teams. The Hawks have made ONE trip to the NCAA's in recent years. And they were killed by Curry. Acting like they're in Wesley's class is simply wrong. They're not, and scheduling (and losing) that game helps no-one and proves nothing

I am NOT saying they are. I am saying they are better than a bye week. They're in the upper half of Division III. Not world-beaters. But three years ago Wesley was looking for games, too.

I wish people would read my posts.

[Jonny Utah]

I assume Wesley can only play teams which have an open date on that day.  That kind of limits them.

[Yanks 99]

Deep breath...good debate...

+k all around...

[Bombers798891]

I agree...that is a ludicrous example.  Kind of like saying that Wesley trying to schedule Wick is an example of them willing to play anyone.  They clearly are willing to do so...but them trying to schedule Wick is a terrible...or in your words...ludicrous example of them trying to do so.

And there it is..."spare us"...

No. 2 vs. No. 236
No. 3 vs. No. 104

Big difference. I don't need to waste my time with the hyperbole in this discussion. Clearly you are too worked up to have a discussion of the topic.

And remember, Hartwick made the playoffs recently, and it was not just this offseason that Wesley has been trying to schedule them.

Pat, a 100 spot difference between Wesley and Wick indicates pretty clearly you're not comparing similar teams. The Hawks have made ONE trip to the NCAA's in recent years. And they were killed by Curry. Acting like they're in Wesley's class is simply wrong. They're not, and scheduling (and losing) that game helps no-one and proves nothing

I am NOT saying they are. I am saying they are better than a bye week. They're in the upper half of Division III. Not world-beaters. But three years ago Wesley was looking for games, too.

I wish people would read my posts.

I've read your posts. Fine, Wesley is better than a bye week. But this thread seemed to start with the idea of gaining respect and you illustrated that the South teams are willing to schedule the East teams. Yes, they are. But Wesley being willing to schedule Wick doesn't make me think about any larger "East vs South" issues, which seems to be what this whole debate is centered on. Regional strength. Heck, IC played Huntington in 2006 and killed them and that didn't do anything for the East. And Huntington wasn't that much worse than the Wick is or was  

[Yanks 99]

I agree...that is a ludicrous example.  Kind of like saying that Wesley trying to schedule Wick is an example of them willing to play anyone.  They clearly are willing to do so...but them trying to schedule Wick is a terrible...or in your words...ludicrous example of them trying to do so.

And there it is..."spare us"...

No. 2 vs. No. 236
No. 3 vs. No. 104

Big difference. I don't need to waste my time with the hyperbole in this discussion. Clearly you are too worked up to have a discussion of the topic.

And remember, Hartwick made the playoffs recently, and it was not just this offseason that Wesley has been trying to schedule them.

Pat, a 100 spot difference between Wesley and Wick indicates pretty clearly you're not comparing similar teams. The Hawks have made ONE trip to the NCAA's in recent years. And they were killed by Curry. Acting like they're in Wesley's class is simply wrong. They're not, and scheduling (and losing) that game helps no-one and proves nothing

I am NOT saying they are. I am saying they are better than a bye week. They're in the upper half of Division III. Not world-beaters. But three years ago Wesley was looking for games, too.

I wish people would read my posts.

I've read your posts. Fine, Wesley is better than a bye week. But this thread seemed to start with the idea of gaining respect and you illustrated that the South teams are willing to schedule the East teams. Yes, they are. But Wesley being willing to schedule Wick doesn't make me think about any larger "East vs South" issues, which seems to be what this whole debate is centered on. Regional strength. Heck, IC played Huntington in 2006 and killed them and that didn't do anything for the East. And Huntington wasn't that much worse than the Wick is or was 

It looks like Hartwick not scheduling Wesley for the past three seasons is the reason that the East gets no "respect" and why the NCAA keeps throwing MUC our way.  Stupid Wick...

[fisheralum91]

this is a little off topic,
but with the addition of Buff St. Frostburg and Salisbury, at what point does Springfield bolt?
How long will the Salis. Frostburg experiment last?
thoughts?

And oh yeah---Fisher football in my  home town Sat!!

[Bombers798891]

this is a little off topic,
but with the addition of Buff St. Frostburg and Salisbury, at what point does Springfield bolt?
How long will the Salis. Frostburg experiment last?
thoughts?

And oh yeah---Fisher football in my  home town Sat!!

Isn't it 2011?