FB: Empire 8

[SUADC]

Cards- I have no argument.
The only thing I can add is that if Ryan is the most talented QB then you have to keep him there.
You dont put a 2nd stringer in just to free up Kramer in the slot.

I agree here.. I think Kramer is the man.. and is the best they got and need. he wins games and gets the job done

Yeah, I believe that Kramer performed well as the season progressed and I think that since he has a year under his belt, he has no choice but to get better and be better. He has had all off-season to improve and understand how defenses approach his dual-threat ability and now he can use that to his advantage for this upcoming season.

[fisherfanatic99]

Yeah, I believe that Kramer performed well as the season progressed and I think that since he has a year under his belt, he has no choice but to get better and be better. He has had all off-season to improve and understand how defenses approach his dual-threat ability and now he can use that to his advantage for this upcoming season.
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sjfccards not sure if I agree with you on this.. although I think Kramer is a natural running back or slot, you can't argue the fact that he is the best guy for the job at Fisher.  You can't compare him to Bailey or even his brother because he brings a hole nother dimension to the field. He can run, and he can score. No doubt Bailey was a better quarterback than the younger Kramer, but atleast Kramers have proved to win to get to the playoffs (something Bailey didn't do at Fisher)... you can't get worked up on statistics when all that matters in football is playing the person who will help you win football games, not break statistical records. I think Kramer is the guy for that. And I am excited to watch him next year even though my kid graduated from Fisher because he was the most fun player to watch last year after Fisher figured out to let him run the ball more than pass it.

[AUPepBand]

Anyone planning to watch the NFL Draft this week?

Chad Faulcon from Montclair getting a little interest from NFL.
http://www.nj.com/sports/nfldraft/index.ssf/2012/04/cranford_native_chad_faulcon_l.html
Great piece on Faulcon....sounds like his playing days may not be behind him. Best of luck to him!

Pep saw AU All-American LB Nick Clark after AU Honors Convocation on Friday...he's looking great, having been training in Texas. Pep wished him the best as we watch the NFL Draft.

Pep is thinking that Faulcon and Clark, while likely being passed over in the Draft, are apt to sign with a team as free agents, thereby getting their respective shots at making a team.

"Keep Pounding!" and "On Saxon Warriors!"

[sjfcards]

Yeah, I believe that Kramer performed well as the season progressed and I think that since he has a year under his belt, he has no choice but to get better and be better. He has had all off-season to improve and understand how defenses approach his dual-threat ability and now he can use that to his advantage for this upcoming season.

sjfccards not sure if I agree with you on this.. although I think Kramer is a natural running back or slot, you can't argue the fact that he is the best guy for the job at Fisher.  You can't compare him to Bailey or even his brother because he brings a hole nother dimension to the field. He can run, and he can score. No doubt Bailey was a better quarterback than the younger Kramer, but atleast Kramers have proved to win to get to the playoffs (something Bailey didn't do at Fisher)... you can't get worked up on statistics when all that matters in football is playing the person who will help you win football games, not break statistical records. I think Kramer is the guy for that. And I am excited to watch him next year even though my kid graduated from Fisher because he was the most fun player to watch last year after Fisher figured out to let him run the ball more than pass it.
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I can't argue that Kramer did get the job done last year, and I love that he has the ball in his hands every play as the QB. I just think Fisher is in a better position to win IF, and that is a big if, they can find a QB that can move the ball, and have Kramer as the #1 option.

[dlippiel]

Yeah, I believe that Kramer performed well as the season progressed and I think that since he has a year under his belt, he has no choice but to get better and be better. He has had all off-season to improve and understand how defenses approach his dual-threat ability and now he can use that to his advantage for this upcoming season.

sjfccards not sure if I agree with you on this.. although I think Kramer is a natural running back or slot, you can't argue the fact that he is the best guy for the job at Fisher.  You can't compare him to Bailey or even his brother because he brings a hole nother dimension to the field. He can run, and he can score. No doubt Bailey was a better quarterback than the younger Kramer, but atleast Kramers have proved to win to get to the playoffs (something Bailey didn't do at Fisher)... you can't get worked up on statistics when all that matters in football is playing the person who will help you win football games, not break statistical records. I think Kramer is the guy for that. And I am excited to watch him next year even though my kid graduated from Fisher because he was the most fun player to watch last year after Fisher figured out to let him run the ball more than pass it.

I can't argue that Kramer did get the job done last year, and I love that he has the ball in his hands every play as the QB. I just think Fisher is in a better position to win IF, and that is a big if, they can find a QB that can move the ball, and have Kramer as the #1 option.
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dlip thinks if this kid can improve on his reads and throwing ability he can be something truly special for SJF. Kramer impressed dlip last year, it was a pleasure to watch him the couple times dlip saw the Cardinals play. dlip loves this kids athletic ability and potential. Plus, he did lead the Cardinals on a ncie run in the tourney last season. That type of leadership and experience cannot be taught. Kid is a winner.

[Knightstalker]

Yeah, I believe that Kramer performed well as the season progressed and I think that since he has a year under his belt, he has no choice but to get better and be better. He has had all off-season to improve and understand how defenses approach his dual-threat ability and now he can use that to his advantage for this upcoming season.

sjfccards not sure if I agree with you on this.. although I think Kramer is a natural running back or slot, you can't argue the fact that he is the best guy for the job at Fisher.  You can't compare him to Bailey or even his brother because he brings a hole nother dimension to the field. He can run, and he can score. No doubt Bailey was a better quarterback than the younger Kramer, but atleast Kramers have proved to win to get to the playoffs (something Bailey didn't do at Fisher)... you can't get worked up on statistics when all that matters in football is playing the person who will help you win football games, not break statistical records. I think Kramer is the guy for that. And I am excited to watch him next year even though my kid graduated from Fisher because he was the most fun player to watch last year after Fisher figured out to let him run the ball more than pass it.

I can't argue that Kramer did get the job done last year, and I love that he has the ball in his hands every play as the QB. I just think Fisher is in a better position to win IF, and that is a big if, they can find a QB that can move the ball, and have Kramer as the #1 option.

dlip thinks if this kid can improve on his reads and throwing ability he can be something truly special for SJF. Kramer impressed dlip last year, it was a pleasure to watch him the couple times dlip saw the Cardinals play. dlip loves this kids athletic ability and potential. Plus, he did lead the Cardinals on a ncie run in the tourney last season. That type of leadership and experience cannot be taught. Kid is a winner.
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Maybe SJF should implement the triple option to really use Kramers abilities.   

[fisherfanatic99]

I can't argue that Kramer did get the job done last year, and I love that he has the ball in his hands every play as the QB. I just think Fisher is in a better position to win IF, and that is a big if, they can find a QB that can move the ball, and have Kramer as the #1 option.
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dlip thinks if this kid can improve on his reads and throwing ability he can be something truly special for SJF. Kramer impressed dlip last year, it was a pleasure to watch him the couple times dlip saw the Cardinals play. dlip loves this kids athletic ability and potential. Plus, he did lead the Cardinals on a ncie run in the tourney last season. That type of leadership and experience cannot be taught. Kid is a winner.
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dlip, I think you are right on with this one.  Being around watching the Fisher team from the stands last year, it was impressive to see Kramer lead the offense (even when he was hurt).  The kid is out there to win and has that competitive attitude you want in every leader. I did get out to see one spring ball practice and it looked like the OC Kramer had his brother throwing ALOT (much more than when I saw a practice in the fall).  It also looked like he changed his throwing motion and was throwing the ball much more consistent and his arm looked stronger.  Freshman receiver caught three or four deep balls from Kramer during the practice (this young receiver looks good).  If Kramer can throw the ball consistently, I feel Fisher has the talent around him to make another run (Defense lost Vosburg but got back Lavell- and return the big guys from the dline--Offense lost the right tackle and the two wr's but have miller and kramer back who were a big part of their offense) I don't think there is a problem at quarterback for Fisher though.  I think Kramer will do much better than some people expect.  Triple option would be fun to watch with Kramer at qb

[fisheralum91]

Triple Option at Fisher?
Yikes....All those years of getting bigs for the O line......
I dont see it happening.
I do like all the Kramer banter tho.
He is a great kid from a great family.
I cant wait for the season to begin!

[sjfcards]

Plus, he did lead the Cardinals on a ncie run in the tourney last season. That type of leadership and experience cannot be taught. Kid is a winner.

Hassanien did most of the QB work in the playoffs. He came in during 2nd quarter of the Hopkins game, and was the guy against Del Val. Also, split time with Kramer against UST. IMHO that is when Fisher played some of their best ball. That is the reason I like a more traditional QB.

[fisherfanatic99]

Plus, he did lead the Cardinals on a ncie run in the tourney last season. That type of leadership and experience cannot be taught. Kid is a winner.

Hassanien did most of the QB work in the playoffs. He came in during 2nd quarter of the Hopkins game, and was the guy against Del Val. Also, split time with Kramer against UST. IMHO that is when Fisher played some of their best ball. That is the reason I like a more traditional QB.

I disagree completely with that.  Fisher's defense was playing the best ball of the year.  They carried the team in the playoffs.  To even compare Hassanien to Kramer at QB would be an injustice to how important Kramer was to that team.  The offense was put on the o line and Miller's back in the playoffs.  Del Val had no clue if Kramer was going to play so they prepared for both qbs.  St. Thomas planned for Hassanien and it was evident as they made him look like  a backup.  Unfortunately Kramer got hurt and fortunately the rest of the team stepped up.   

[Bombers798891]

Plus, he did lead the Cardinals on a ncie run in the tourney last season. That type of leadership and experience cannot be taught. Kid is a winner.

Hassanien did most of the QB work in the playoffs. He came in during 2nd quarter of the Hopkins game, and was the guy against Del Val. Also, split time with Kramer against UST. IMHO that is when Fisher played some of their best ball. That is the reason I like a more traditional QB.

I disagree completely with that.  Fisher's defense was playing the best ball of the year.  They carried the team in the playoffs.  To even compare Hassanien to Kramer at QB would be an injustice to how important Kramer was to that team.  The offense was put on the o line and Miller's back in the playoffs.  Del Val had no clue if Kramer was going to play so they prepared for both qbs.  St. Thomas planned for Hassanien and it was evident as they made him look like  a backup.  Unfortunately Kramer got hurt and fortunately the rest of the team stepped up.

Considering Fisher's defense held six of the team's first seven opponents to 10 points or less, I'd say they were playing pretty well most of the season.

It's not like Kramer didn't get help from the defense in the 12-7 win over Buff State, or the 13-10 win over IC, or the 17-3 win against Alfred. If the defense doesn't step up in those games, Fisher could have been 1-4 to start the season without even batting an eye.

[fisherfanatic99]

Plus, he did lead the Cardinals on a ncie run in the tourney last season. That type of leadership and experience cannot be taught. Kid is a winner.

Hassanien did most of the QB work in the playoffs. He came in during 2nd quarter of the Hopkins game, and was the guy against Del Val. Also, split time with Kramer against UST. IMHO that is when Fisher played some of their best ball. That is the reason I like a more traditional QB.

I disagree completely with that.  Fisher's defense was playing the best ball of the year.  They carried the team in the playoffs.  To even compare Hassanien to Kramer at QB would be an injustice to how important Kramer was to that team.  The offense was put on the o line and Miller's back in the playoffs.  Del Val had no clue if Kramer was going to play so they prepared for both qbs.  St. Thomas planned for Hassanien and it was evident as they made him look like  a backup.  Unfortunately Kramer got hurt and fortunately the rest of the team stepped up.

Considering Fisher's defense held six of the team's first seven opponents to 10 points or less, I'd say they were playing pretty well most of the season.

It's not like Kramer didn't get help from the defense in the 12-7 win over Buff State, or the 13-10 win over IC, or the 17-3 win against Alfred. If the defense doesn't step up in those games, Fisher could have been 1-4 to start the season without even batting an eye.

I agree with that.. but if you look at my and some other people's other comments I said Kramer was fun to watch as a QB once they figured out how to run the ball with him.  Those games were the games they tried to make Kramer a traditional quarterback like the Bailey's and older Kramer's of the past.  No doubt about it the defense was the key for Fisher last year, but if you do look at the offense I think much of its success was because of Kramer and Miller (especially when they became an shotgun running attack team).  Not many people can plan all summer to come into preseason camp as a rb and be switched to qb on day one for the season.  I'm not saying Kramer is the only thing good for fisher, and he was the main reason why they won or lost last year, just that he was important and he should be their qb moving forward.  I feel what he brings to this team on and off the field is key to Fisher's success next year.

[sjfcards]

Plus, he did lead the Cardinals on a ncie run in the tourney last season. That type of leadership and experience cannot be taught. Kid is a winner.

Hassanien did most of the QB work in the playoffs. He came in during 2nd quarter of the Hopkins game, and was the guy against Del Val. Also, split time with Kramer against UST. IMHO that is when Fisher played some of their best ball. That is the reason I like a more traditional QB.

I disagree completely with that.  Fisher's defense was playing the best ball of the year.  They carried the team in the playoffs.  To even compare Hassanien to Kramer at QB would be an injustice to how important Kramer was to that team.  The offense was put on the o line and Miller's back in the playoffs.  Del Val had no clue if Kramer was going to play so they prepared for both qbs.  St. Thomas planned for Hassanien and it was evident as they made him look like  a backup.  Unfortunately Kramer got hurt and fortunately the rest of the team stepped up.

Considering Fisher's defense held six of the team's first seven opponents to 10 points or less, I'd say they were playing pretty well most of the season.

It's not like Kramer didn't get help from the defense in the 12-7 win over Buff State, or the 13-10 win over IC, or the 17-3 win against Alfred. If the defense doesn't step up in those games, Fisher could have been 1-4 to start the season without even batting an eye.

I agree with that.. but if you look at my and some other people's other comments I said Kramer was fun to watch as a QB once they figured out how to run the ball with him.  Those games were the games they tried to make Kramer a traditional quarterback like the Bailey's and older Kramer's of the past.  No doubt about it the defense was the key for Fisher last year, but if you do look at the offense I think much of its success was because of Kramer and Miller (especially when they became an shotgun running attack team).  Not many people can plan all summer to come into preseason camp as a rb and be switched to qb on day one for the season.  I'm not saying Kramer is the only thing good for fisher, and he was the main reason why they won or lost last year, just that he was important and he should be their qb moving forward.  I feel what he brings to this team on and off the field is key to Fisher's success next year.

Oh, there is no doubt Kramer is THE key guy for Fisher coming into this year. I think that he was easily the MVP for the Offense, and did get much better as the year went on. All I am saying is that I would like to see more of a downfield threat at QB.

I am not going to be cursing the football gods if Kramer starts at QB, I just think Fisher is better with him lined up elsewhere. Adding another wrinkle to the offense can't hurt, right?

[fisheralum91]

Its April and we are talking about Fisher football!
I love this!
I thnk with a little more polish you may see a more refined QB in Ryan.
Yes he is more talented on the run, but watch him this season.
You may be taken a back by the maturation and keen sense that he has on the field, not to mention a good arm!

[fisherfanatic99]

Its April and we are talking about Fisher football!
I love this!
I thnk with a little more polish you may see a more refined QB in Ryan.
Yes he is more talented on the run, but watch him this season.
You may be taken a back by the maturation and keen sense that he has on the field, not to mention a good arm!

Kramer, good arm? No way... I agree with everything fisheralum91 said completely! I think the kid has a lot better arm than people give him credit for.  No one ever gave him a shot to throw the ball.  I just can't wait for the pads to go on and to see the games.