FB: Empire 8

[wesleydad]

SUADC, yes, wesley has looked vulnerable this year but somehow figured out a way to win the game.  the schedule has been top notch and the defense continues to limit teams to less than 20 despite the offensive mistakes.  each week the team improves and if/when the offense plays a clean game i think they are as good as umhb is.  i am not a stat guy usually, I go by the eye test and having seen salisbury 2 times now, against wesley and last week I just dont think they have what it takes to beat the top tier teams.  the last game that i saw wesley play was a good one to me against UVL.  some others did not think so, but from what i saw the defense was overwhelmed by the o line size yet limited UVL to low rushing and passing totals.  I will say that UVL was not a passing team but the size difference was huge.  I did not think they played that well against UMHB but had the ball at mid field with a chance to win the game and it took 3 fantastic individual plays by Bailey and the RB to get the win for UMHB.  In the end I just think that wesley has a larger upside than any team that i have seen yet this year.  now, i will see cortland this weekend to see what they bring against kean.  with the uncertainty around the nation i will agree with you that the playoffs will be very interesting and match ups will be huge for some teams chances.  +1 to you also for honest opinions, always like them even if i may disagree with them.  boring if i only talk to those who see it the way i see it.

[HScoach]

Look,
I know that im going to get beat up here, but Fisher and AU are a pick em at this point.
Head to head- minus 2 mental blunders, you are staring at a 7-6 game and it could go either way, and yes AU capitalized.
Both of these teams pushed Salisbury to the brink, and both have a loss that sticks out.
AU to RPI and Fisher to AU.
Should AU get the nod?  Probably, but if these teams both win out there are going to be plenty of conversations!
That I look forward to.  That said, leave it to Fisher to go to Utica the last game of the season and get beat....That I could see happen too.

91 lookin' for a fight? Pep can only say, "Eech. Ooh. Yeah. Um... I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there."
(And 91's been real flakey lately...he's also been having some problems with his T.P.S. Reports.)

On Saxon Warriors!

I agree with the basic premise of what FA91 is saying.  Alfred has not proven they are markedly better than Fisher.  If they played 10 times who knows how many each team would win but it's my belief it wouldn't be lopsided in either team's favor.  Heck even the Salisbury game - while the final score was closer the impression we've all gotten was that Salisbury played incredibly sloppy and Alfred capitalized.  Well the reverse happened to Fisher when they were leading Salisbury with a few minutes to go - they became incredibly sloppy and Salisbury capitalized. 

Allllll of that said...no Fisher definitely does not belong ahead of Alfred right now in the poll.  I don't think you'd find many of us that would argue otherwise.  They won the head-to-head in a very recent matchup so they unquestionably deserve the nod. 

Doesn't it just feel like all of this ultimately doesn't matter anyway? Mount Union looks like they are on a freaking mission. Somebody said something offensive about Mount Union's mother.   

This Mount team is very similar to last year's team except for one thing.  We finally have a QB after the last few years of winning spite of the QB.   It's nice to be winning because of the QB.   Only thing Mount is missing is a legit RB.   

Defensively Mount is their typical under-sized, but crazy fast.  Will definitely struggle against a big, powerful O-line and strong running game.   They're built to defend the spread, not a running game like your usual Wastewater team.

[pg04]

Look,
I know that im going to get beat up here, but Fisher and AU are a pick em at this point.
Head to head- minus 2 mental blunders, you are staring at a 7-6 game and it could go either way, and yes AU capitalized.
Both of these teams pushed Salisbury to the brink, and both have a loss that sticks out.
AU to RPI and Fisher to AU.
Should AU get the nod?  Probably, but if these teams both win out there are going to be plenty of conversations!
That I look forward to.  That said, leave it to Fisher to go to Utica the last game of the season and get beat....That I could see happen too.

91 lookin' for a fight? Pep can only say, "Eech. Ooh. Yeah. Um... I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there."
(And 91's been real flakey lately...he's also been having some problems with his T.P.S. Reports.)

On Saxon Warriors!

I agree with the basic premise of what FA91 is saying.  Alfred has not proven they are markedly better than Fisher.  If they played 10 times who knows how many each team would win but it's my belief it wouldn't be lopsided in either team's favor.  Heck even the Salisbury game - while the final score was closer the impression we've all gotten was that Salisbury played incredibly sloppy and Alfred capitalized.  Well the reverse happened to Fisher when they were leading Salisbury with a few minutes to go - they became incredibly sloppy and Salisbury capitalized. 

Allllll of that said...no Fisher definitely does not belong ahead of Alfred right now in the poll.  I don't think you'd find many of us that would argue otherwise.  They won the head-to-head in a very recent matchup so they unquestionably deserve the nod. 

Doesn't it just feel like all of this ultimately doesn't matter anyway? Mount Union looks like they are on a freaking mission. Somebody said something offensive about Mount Union's mother.   

This Mount team is very similar to last year's team except for one thing.  We finally have a QB after the last few years of winning spite of the QB.   It's nice to be winning because of the QB.   Only thing Mount is missing is a legit RB.   

Defensively Mount is their typical under-sized, but crazy fast.  Will definitely struggle against a big, powerful O-line and strong running game.   They're built to defend the spread, not a running game like your usual Wastewater team.

Wastewater team? Certainly are a running game...some spread too though.....

[AlfredSaxon8]

Look,
I know that im going to get beat up here, but Fisher and AU are a pick em at this point.
Head to head- minus 2 mental blunders, you are staring at a 7-6 game and it could go either way, and yes AU capitalized.
Both of these teams pushed Salisbury to the brink, and both have a loss that sticks out.
AU to RPI and Fisher to AU.
Should AU get the nod?  Probably, but if these teams both win out there are going to be plenty of conversations!
That I look forward to.  That said, leave it to Fisher to go to Utica the last game of the season and get beat....That I could see happen too.

91 lookin' for a fight? Pep can only say, "Eech. Ooh. Yeah. Um... I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there."
(And 91's been real flakey lately...he's also been having some problems with his T.P.S. Reports.)

On Saxon Warriors!

I agree with the basic premise of what FA91 is saying.  Alfred has not proven they are markedly better than Fisher.  If they played 10 times who knows how many each team would win but it's my belief it wouldn't be lopsided in either team's favor.  Heck even the Salisbury game - while the final score was closer the impression we've all gotten was that Salisbury played incredibly sloppy and Alfred capitalized.  Well the reverse happened to Fisher when they were leading Salisbury with a few minutes to go - they became incredibly sloppy and Salisbury capitalized. 

Allllll of that said...no Fisher definitely does not belong ahead of Alfred right now in the poll.  I don't think you'd find many of us that would argue otherwise.  They won the head-to-head in a very recent matchup so they unquestionably deserve the nod. 

Doesn't it just feel like all of this ultimately doesn't matter anyway?  Mount Union looks like they are on a freaking mission.  Somebody said something offensive about Mount Union's mother.   

Good teams capitalize on mistakes. The vibe that I am getting, is that you dont necessarily think that Alfred or Salisbury won, but more so that Fisher lost, if that makes sense.

If Fisher was that good, they wouldnt be making big mistakes. Not trying to start a war of words but Fisher lost. Alfred and Salisbury capitalized on their mistakes and thats what good teams do. As far as Im concerned, Fisher wasnt a Top 10 team.

Remember the mighty ducks where he says that a little to the left and it would have been in. And Charlie replies, yeah but a little bit more the other way and you would have missed completely?

What Im saying is that both Alfred and Salisbury probably could have made plays as well and a one touchdown game could have been way out of reach. I didnt watch the game but everytime Fisher loses, its because they lost; not that the other team won. Sorry, but its not your year. Unless AU drops a bad one, Fisher will finish 3rd in the conference after being ranked in the Top 10. Seems a little overhyped to me.

[lewdogg11]

+1 for referencing the holy trilogy.

[fisheralum91]

Look,
I know that im going to get beat up here, but Fisher and AU are a pick em at this point.
Head to head- minus 2 mental blunders, you are staring at a 7-6 game and it could go either way, and yes AU capitalized.
Both of these teams pushed Salisbury to the brink, and both have a loss that sticks out.
AU to RPI and Fisher to AU.
Should AU get the nod?  Probably, but if these teams both win out there are going to be plenty of conversations!
That I look forward to.  That said, leave it to Fisher to go to Utica the last game of the season and get beat....That I could see happen too.

91 lookin' for a fight? Pep can only say, "Eech. Ooh. Yeah. Um... I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there."
(And 91's been real flakey lately...he's also been having some problems with his T.P.S. Reports.)

On Saxon Warriors!

I agree with the basic premise of what FA91 is saying.  Alfred has not proven they are markedly better than Fisher.  If they played 10 times who knows how many each team would win but it's my belief it wouldn't be lopsided in either team's favor.  Heck even the Salisbury game - while the final score was closer the impression we've all gotten was that Salisbury played incredibly sloppy and Alfred capitalized.  Well the reverse happened to Fisher when they were leading Salisbury with a few minutes to go - they became incredibly sloppy and Salisbury capitalized. 

Allllll of that said...no Fisher definitely does not belong ahead of Alfred right now in the poll.  I don't think you'd find many of us that would argue otherwise.  They won the head-to-head in a very recent matchup so they unquestionably deserve the nod. 

Doesn't it just feel like all of this ultimately doesn't matter anyway?  Mount Union looks like they are on a freaking mission.  Somebody said something offensive about Mount Union's mother.   

Good teams capitalize on mistakes. The vibe that I am getting, is that you dont necessarily think that Alfred or Salisbury won, but more so that Fisher lost, if that makes sense.

If Fisher was that good, they wouldnt be making big mistakes. Not trying to start a war of words but Fisher lost. Alfred and Salisbury capitalized on their mistakes and thats what good teams do. As far as Im concerned, Fisher wasnt a Top 10 team.

Remember the mighty ducks where he says that a little to the left and it would have been in. And Charlie replies, yeah but a little bit more the other way and you would have missed completely?

What Im saying is that both Alfred and Salisbury probably could have made plays as well and a one touchdown game could have been way out of reach. I didnt watch the game but everytime Fisher loses, its because they lost; not that the other team won. Sorry, but its not your year. Unless AU drops a bad one, Fisher will finish 3rd in the conference after being ranked in the Top 10. Seems a little overhyped to me.

Saxon8 - I guess that was where I was going- And I do know that good teams dont make those errors.   I think the main point was that barring a few blunders Fisher could be 5-1.  I know they arent, hell they shouldnt be a top 25 team.  The game I saw SatErday against IC was hard to stomach.  This is a down year for Fisher...It didnt seem to start that way, but without Kramer this team looks lost.

[AlfredSaxon8]

Look,
I know that im going to get beat up here, but Fisher and AU are a pick em at this point.
Head to head- minus 2 mental blunders, you are staring at a 7-6 game and it could go either way, and yes AU capitalized.
Both of these teams pushed Salisbury to the brink, and both have a loss that sticks out.
AU to RPI and Fisher to AU.
Should AU get the nod?  Probably, but if these teams both win out there are going to be plenty of conversations!
That I look forward to.  That said, leave it to Fisher to go to Utica the last game of the season and get beat....That I could see happen too.

91 lookin' for a fight? Pep can only say, "Eech. Ooh. Yeah. Um... I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there."
(And 91's been real flakey lately...he's also been having some problems with his T.P.S. Reports.)

On Saxon Warriors!

I agree with the basic premise of what FA91 is saying.  Alfred has not proven they are markedly better than Fisher.  If they played 10 times who knows how many each team would win but it's my belief it wouldn't be lopsided in either team's favor.  Heck even the Salisbury game - while the final score was closer the impression we've all gotten was that Salisbury played incredibly sloppy and Alfred capitalized.  Well the reverse happened to Fisher when they were leading Salisbury with a few minutes to go - they became incredibly sloppy and Salisbury capitalized. 

Allllll of that said...no Fisher definitely does not belong ahead of Alfred right now in the poll.  I don't think you'd find many of us that would argue otherwise.  They won the head-to-head in a very recent matchup so they unquestionably deserve the nod. 

Doesn't it just feel like all of this ultimately doesn't matter anyway?  Mount Union looks like they are on a freaking mission.  Somebody said something offensive about Mount Union's mother.   

Good teams capitalize on mistakes. The vibe that I am getting, is that you dont necessarily think that Alfred or Salisbury won, but more so that Fisher lost, if that makes sense.

If Fisher was that good, they wouldnt be making big mistakes. Not trying to start a war of words but Fisher lost. Alfred and Salisbury capitalized on their mistakes and thats what good teams do. As far as Im concerned, Fisher wasnt a Top 10 team.

Remember the mighty ducks where he says that a little to the left and it would have been in. And Charlie replies, yeah but a little bit more the other way and you would have missed completely?

What Im saying is that both Alfred and Salisbury probably could have made plays as well and a one touchdown game could have been way out of reach. I didnt watch the game but everytime Fisher loses, its because they lost; not that the other team won. Sorry, but its not your year. Unless AU drops a bad one, Fisher will finish 3rd in the conference after being ranked in the Top 10. Seems a little overhyped to me.

Saxon8 - I guess that was where I was going- And I do know that good teams dont make those errors.   I think the main point was that barring a few blunders Fisher could be 5-1.  I know they arent, hell they shouldnt be a top 25 team.  The game I saw SatErday against IC was hard to stomach.  This is a down year for Fisher...It didnt seem to start that way, but without Kramer this team looks lost.

To be honest, im just as frustrated as you guys are. I want Fisher to do well. If they dominated AU, obviously it would suck, but it shows they are a national contender. It was great to see them ranked so high but a fast fall makes them seem overrated. And youre right, a few bounces their way, they could be undefeated or a one loss team. But a few bounces the other, they could be looking at .500 as well. I still dont think Kramer is the answer. They need someone to stretch the field. Great athlete no doubt, great player, but not a qb that will take this team far. They could make him work but they would need to switch their offensive philosophy.

I guess, what frustrates me, is that each team has holes that separate competition. They have gaps where it could make or break a season. Good teams have smaller gaps. I thought Fisher was more well rounded. And the more the season has come along, the more apparent those gaps are that separate them from dominance. I expected gaps from AU because they are transitioning, not from Fisher though. Skill-wise, they are better than any team in the E8, but on the field, it doesnt come together.

[boobyhasgameyo]

I don't think Fisher is a top 10 team at all.  They suck offensively.  I just don't think Alfred is better, they did however capitalized on a couple of pivotal moments.  Other than that I'd say they are pretty evenly matched.  Salisbury I do think is better than Fisher.  It took a great effort by Fisher to have that lead late in the game and they still lost because of how it ended.  If Fisher would have played the way they did against Alfred in the game versus Salisbury it is my belief they would have been destroyed.  The reason why I think the Alfred-Salisbury game was close is because Salisbury made a bunch of sloppy plays from what I've heard.  Did Alfred lead at any point in that game?  Were they ever a threat to?  Yes good teams force mistakes - but not every time.  It's such a cliche to paint that broad brush of good teams force all mistakes.  Have you seen how many times Fisher has fumbled this year off botched handoffs and careless mistakes?  That's why they aren't a top 10 team to me.  Mistake prone and crappy offensively. 

I'm not even sour about it at all.  From what I saw I'll say Salisbury is better than Fisher, Alfred is on the same level. 

[AUPepBand]

So Pep is at the library front desk when a local character from the community comes in and greets Pep with, "Good morning, Dr. Snyder!"
Pep replies, "Good morning, Dr. Miller. And how did surgery go this morning?"
Dr. Miller: "Oh, just fine, I did a number of amputations."
Pep: "I bet you charged 'em an arm and a leg, eh?"   

[SUADC]

So Pep is at the library front desk when a local character from the community comes in and greets Pep with, "Good morning, Dr. Snyder!"
Pep replies, "Good morning, Dr. Miller. And how did surgery go this morning?"
Dr. Miller: "Oh, just fine, I did a number of amputations."
Pep: "I bet you charged 'em an arm and a leg, eh?"   

Hahahah! +K

[D O.C.]

Opinions please....if I'm going to be in Silver Spring, MD, on  Saturday the 27th, what would be my best game to see within an hour and a half?
Someday I'll research why two MD teams are un the Empire 8.

[SUADC]

Opinions please....if I'm going to be in Silver Spring, MD, on  Saturday the 27th, what would be my best game to see within an hour and a half?
Someday I'll research why two MD teams are un the Empire 8.

Depending on how far you want to drive, I know within a 3 limit you can see games in MD, VA, DC, PA, and NJ. Notable games would be W&L @ Catholic (25min), Castleton State @ Gallaudet (25min), SJF @ FSU (75min), Cortland State @ Kean (220min), Albright @ Widener (130min), Del Val @ Leb Valley (159min), those are some that come to mind. I will be doing community service in Montgomery County early in the morning with my company and depending on how Salisbury playing, I may check either the Catholic or Gallaudet game.

[bman]

Opinions please....if I'm going to be in Silver Spring, MD, on  Saturday the 27th, what would be my best game to see within an hour and a half?
Someday I'll research why two MD teams are un the Empire 8.

Depending on how far you want to drive, I know within a 3 limit you can see games in MD, VA, DC, PA, and NJ. Notable games would be W&L @ Catholic (25min), Castleton State @ Gallaudet (25min), SJF @ FSU (75min), Cortland State @ Kean (220min), Albright @ Widener (130min), Del Val @ Leb Valley (159min), those are some that come to mind. I will be doing community service in Montgomery County early in the morning with my company and depending on how Salisbury playing, I may check either the Catholic or Gallaudet game.

I disagree...90 minutes will get you about 7 miles off the beltway on Saturday morning...

[AUPepBand]

Opinions please....if I'm going to be in Silver Spring, MD, on  Saturday the 27th, what would be my best game to see within an hour and a half?
Someday I'll research why two MD teams are un the Empire 8.

After making the trip from centrally isolated Mayberry, NY to the Eastern Shore to watch Pep's Saxons toss it around with a bunch of Sea Gulls, Pep is wondering the same thing....but thinks it's all about the AQ. 

[Bengalsrule]

Question for my sjfisher friends. I'm looking for a pizza..wings..sub place that delivers to sj fisher on sat afternoon (this sat to be exact). Looking to feed about 20 folks near 4:30. The plan is to spend around $150.00.

Would like a place that may offer a discount. Also will have tax exempt forms. Not having a bunch of luck reaching anyone at Fisher after 5 to answer this question.

Feel free to p.m. me also!