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fisheralum91

I didnt get a chance to see the game Saturday and can make assumptions on many things here, but was the DV comeback merely Bport letting up on the gas and a good team responding or were they getting gassed and the game was catching up with them.
jawing and unsportsmanlike penalties sound like letting up on the gas being cocky rather than being tired

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I think BP did a similar thing as they did against Alfred. They stopped playing to win on defense and it caught up with them after the turnover and onside kick went in DV's favor. Their ST and D did save the day at the end, however. The Golden Eagles won't have the same luxury in Belton, however.
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Oline89

Quote from: fisheralum91 on December 04, 2017, 09:21:31 AM
I didnt get a chance to see the game Saturday and can make assumptions on many things here, but was the DV comeback merely Bport letting up on the gas and a good team responding or were they getting gassed and the game was catching up with them.
jawing and unsportsmanlike penalties sound like letting up on the gas being cocky rather than being tired

They were certainly not letting up on the gas, one of the unsportsmanlike penalties was on a long pass play to the far sideline, inside the 10 (?).  It resulted in a stalled drive and missed field goal.  They were taken by surprise with the onsides kick (I don't think the "hands" team was on the field).  There was a lot of jawing between both teams. 

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Frank was on the sideline and the jawing was going on for most of the entire game, including the coaches. He broached it with Coach Mangone in the post-game interview (posted on our FB page). Not surprising emotions were high with so much on the line for both teams.
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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 03, 2017, 11:04:47 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on December 03, 2017, 10:58:37 PM
Wow! Lots of personal fouls, false starts...crazy! Hubbard got that long pass at 4:09 in the third, then was just jawing at the DV CB right in front of the ref. I've never seen so much yapping.

Yeah, that's how DV got back in the game.  If Bport behaves like that in Belton, I'll predict AT LEAST a double monkey-stomp!  I really think Bport has the talent to give UMHB a decent game, but not if they act like in the second half against DV.

I'm actually seeing a rehash of Chapman this weekend, especially if there is jawing and chirping from the sidelines, the D Line will lay on the extra spicy Texas mustard on the hits if that is going on and AJ has a very nasty habit of catching QBs from behind and making a low jersey number floormat, jawing just brings his Samoan blood out.
BP will have to go quick release, our D backs have alot of experience with this and it was showcased this last week. what, 4 clean passes broken up, two intercepted. the read is going the be the key to this next game, as for the O it's simply going to be smash mouth, run it up the gut Texas football, I don't see anything that needs serious adjusting. I would predict Marquis Miller will have a very good game.
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fisheralum91

being a tad over confident me thinks.

Brockport is a good team
A really good team.

UMHB good- that remains to be seen

I will say this---the CRU cant look past them.
they will surprise you.

wesleydad

Quote from: umhb2001 on December 03, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on December 03, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: bports on November 30, 2017, 06:46:22 AM
I'm so happy that Brockport is just a tune up for your next game lmao. No way DV will score enough points to win this game. 31-17 Brockport!

bsports - I guess for both of us (as I had a 20 point Brockport victory and you had a 14 point victory with DelVal only scoring 17 against the Brockport defense all game..........and they put up 21 in one quarter), the old saying applies........."It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt".

Make the East (although my Manhattan buddies think that Brockport, NY............and all of New York that's not Manhattan or the other four boroughs is akin to Guam, and certainly not the "East" :) ) proud and take down Mary Hardin Baylor. Brockport has the QB, size, speed and defense to do the job but if that defense gets torched like it did through the air and on the ground in the 4th quarter against DelVal.........it could be a long, long day in Texas.

So if I am reading your post correctly, Brockport is better than St. Thomas. They have size and speed better than St Thomas AND The Cru? This is intriguing. I am watching the Brockport v DV game now. I will look for these things. I know no team can be underestimated, and we can't look past Brockport at all.

umhb2001, they do not have speed close to what UMHB has all over the field.  They have a few players who will not be overwhelmed by the Cru speed.  They are not better than St. Thomas and probably not better than Linfield.  They would give both of those teams a good game, maybe winning it.  Go back a page or 2 and read my post, if you have not already done so, where I give them a punchers chance since the UMHB offense is not firing on all cylinders.  They are skilled, the O line is big but had issues this week against Del Val with pass protection.  The defense will keep everything in front of them, or try to, they did not do a very good job this week, but except for 1 pass in the Wesley game did not give up any long stuff.

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Quote from: umhb2001 on December 03, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on December 03, 2017, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: bports on November 30, 2017, 06:46:22 AM
I'm so happy that Brockport is just a tune up for your next game lmao. No way DV will score enough points to win this game. 31-17 Brockport!

bsports - I guess for both of us (as I had a 20 point Brockport victory and you had a 14 point victory with DelVal only scoring 17 against the Brockport defense all game..........and they put up 21 in one quarter), the old saying applies........."It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt".

Make the East (although my Manhattan buddies think that Brockport, NY............and all of New York that's not Manhattan or the other four boroughs is akin to Guam, and certainly not the "East" :) ) proud and take down Mary Hardin Baylor. Brockport has the QB, size, speed and defense to do the job but if that defense gets torched like it did through the air and on the ground in the 4th quarter against DelVal.........it could be a long, long day in Texas.

So if I am reading your post correctly, Brockport is better than St. Thomas. They have size and speed better than St Thomas AND The Cru? This is intriguing. I am watching the Brockport v DV game now. I will look for these things. I know no team can be underestimated, and we can't look past Brockport at all.

From an outside perspective, Brockport has done everything that you can ask for a team, they went on the road and won a big game (Del Val), won a big game at home against as good team (Wesley), and dominated a team (not sure that team showed up) at home as they should have. I watched both the 2nd and 3rd games in its entirety, the first game I was watching a New England Bowl game. I think the two match-ups against Wesley and Delaware Valley has prepared them mentally. Mentally beating a team like Wesley that has been the top of the crop in ER. Then, playing against a team that has been firing on all cylinders and playing with a chip on their shoulder in Delaware Valley, they beat them. Regarding the Delaware Valley game, I think  Brockport was being overconfident and did not finish against a good opponent (kudos to Delaware Valley). However, they survived and will use that as learning experience. Do I think they are better than UST, we shall see (Historically, no). I think UST is well coached and super aggressive. But, I believe Brockport will utilize what Georgia did against Auburn and not run at the awesome D-Line that UMHB has and play on the edge and vertically in the seams. I think Brockport main thing is limiting the run and big play, which they have done when focused. I think Brockport earned their position this weekend and is unequivocally the best ER team this year, they would beat any other ER team at least 8 out of 10 times on neutral field. I am looking forward to their matchup against UMHB. I respect UMHB as they have taken that next step from being at Tier II, Tier IB to National Champion.

fisheralum91

Ill add my 2 cents on this - I really thought that Brockport would beat DV soundly this past weekend.
I was pretty confident in that assessment going into the 4th.
Then all hell breaks loose, Brockport looks beatable and needs a FG to get out of dodge relatively unscathed.
1 half v 2nd will dictate what Bport team shows up to Belton.
If coach M can rally the troops and keep them focused, as stated before- i too give them a punchers chance.
What I am not saying is that they are better than the CRU.
Im saying that the CRU faithful best be mindful of a team that comes in as a big underdog....The have nothing to lose....so what is another double reverse flea flicker to coach?  No sweat off his brow.


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I agree FA. Brockport is kinda playing with house money right now in my opinion. They have far exceeded expectations this year. They are not some returning Stagg Bowl champ like UMHB, with a rich playoff pedigree. The pressure is just about all on the Texas boys. If they blowout Brockport, so be it. Would that really surprise anyone and dimish what Brockport has done this season ? No. Every game has gotten tougher and tougher for Brockport on this journey. This next step will be no exception. Brockport has zero national rep like Linfield, St Thomas, Mt Union, MHB...etc. These Texas fans probably look at Brockport as some curiosity. Of course they will prepare hard and hopefully play well, I feel they have nothing to lose at this point, let it all hang out. Now if MHB loses, well they will be left with egg on their face and will most likely consider their season an almost failure. Brockport's case could be in a nice position to be in.

umhb2001

Quote from: fisheralum91 on December 04, 2017, 09:21:31 AM
I didnt get a chance to see the game Saturday and can make assumptions on many things here, but was the DV comeback merely Bport letting up on the gas and a good team responding or were they getting gassed and the game was catching up with them.
jawing and unsportsmanlike penalties sound like letting up on the gas being cocky rather than being tired

The game is still available online. I watched it Saturday night and Sunday night.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

fisheralum91

I noticed that as well- Caught most of the 4th Qtr.


On another note- I remember when Fisher went down to Belton- took a punch right to the nose- but they did mount a comeback and played well.  Didnt win but gained much needed experience and kept the program on the national radar......oh to have those days back...

umhb2001

Quote from: fisheralum91 on December 04, 2017, 12:21:59 PM
Ill add my 2 cents on this - I really thought that Brockport would beat DV soundly this past weekend.
I was pretty confident in that assessment going into the 4th.
Then all hell breaks loose, Brockport looks beatable and needs a FG to get out of dodge relatively unscathed.
1 half v 2nd will dictate what Bport team shows up to Belton.
If coach M can rally the troops and keep them focused, as stated before- i too give them a punchers chance.
What I am not saying is that they are better than the CRU.
Im saying that the CRU faithful best be mindful of a team that comes in as a big underdog....The have nothing to lose....so what is another double reverse flea flicker to coach?  No sweat off his brow.

We definitely know not to underestimate anyone. The first round game last year against Redlands is testimony to this, and many guys will remember this. I'm sure the coaches preach this as well.

The thing about the offense is that we've had no true leader. Blake Jackson was amazing at staying focused in light of mistakes. CR3 has shown some mental resiliency. To his credit, no QB would be very good in that amount of duress. I expect Brockport to imitate this as they run a similar defense. I'd like to see UMHB run a two back set. This would allow a call at the line to signify a blocker and signify a check and release. This may give CR3 the time he needs if the rush is intense, and he can dump off or run. DV had a few good runs with their QB to slice up the D.

While our O hasn't been great, it has been good enough, and that's all we need right now.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

fisheralum91

Should be an entertaining game for sure.

Forecast for Belton?

umhb2001

High of 63 and sunny. Should be fantastic weather.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!