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Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 31, 2006, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:19:43 PM
So if Fisher would need 2 of the 4 scenarios...

1) Rochester wins at least one more game,

Will be tough.  Home against RPI, on the road at Hobart.  Probably needs to happen this week.

(2) King's wins both remaining games,

Little chance.  They'll probably beat FDU, but will be double digit underdogs against Wilkes.

(3) Mt. Ida wins both remaining games

Perhaps.  They're probably a six point underdog vs. WPI.  Should beat Marytime.

(4) Montclair loses at least one game.

at Willy P and West Conn.  Who knows.  Montclair has been a hard team to predict in the past.  Bit of a question mark what team shows up.  

Technically, if Mt. Ida wins one more game and one of the other three things happen, SJF wins.  So, if you feel Maritime is an easy win, then it's a little easier for them to hold on.

I think Rochester can beat Hobart, although it'll be a lot tougher at Hobart. Hobart is a little overrated I believe.

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Quote from: portgrad2004 on October 31, 2006, 09:24:20 PM
Quote from: Tags on October 31, 2006, 09:19:49 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 31, 2006, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:15:15 PM
Right, but I think you're missing what I'm saying (Frank).  

If there are 8 one loss teams that dont win their conference, three E8 bids may be tough.

If there are 7 one loss teams that dont win their conference, we'll be fine.

I'll agree there, except for this:  take a look at Baldwin-Wallace in the OAC.  I think that if they beat Capital, we may have a mess on our hands -- the Committee MAY pick a two-loss B-W team over a one-loss East team and ship them to the East bracket.

Doubtful that Capital loses that game though ... I hope!

Well...B-W played Mount Union better this year than Capital did...I think B-W could win, and in that scenario, a 2-loss OAC team might get the edge.  

Tough to go by what they did vs. Mt. Union - but certainly can see what you're saying about a 2 loss team getting in given that scenario.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: Tags on October 31, 2006, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 31, 2006, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:19:43 PM
So if Fisher would need 2 of the 4 scenarios...

1) Rochester wins at least one more game,

Will be tough.  Home against RPI, on the road at Hobart.  Probably needs to happen this week.

(2) King's wins both remaining games,

Little chance.  They'll probably beat FDU, but will be double digit underdogs against Wilkes.

(3) Mt. Ida wins both remaining games

Perhaps.  They're probably a six point underdog vs. WPI.  Should beat Marytime.

(4) Montclair loses at least one game.

at Willy P and West Conn.  Who knows.  Montclair has been a hard team to predict in the past.  Bit of a question mark what team shows up.  

Technically, if Mt. Ida wins one more game and one of the other three things happen, SJF wins.  So, if you feel Maritime is an easy win, then it's a little easier for them to hold on.

I think Rochester can beat Hobart, although it'll be a lot tougher at Hobart. Hobart is a little overrated I believe.

If Hobart beats Union Saturday, a win by Rochester vs. Hobart and a loss by Union vs. RPI gives Rochester the LL.  So, there may be something on the line in that game.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: Tags on October 31, 2006, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: portgrad2004 on October 31, 2006, 09:24:20 PM
Quote from: Tags on October 31, 2006, 09:19:49 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 31, 2006, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:15:15 PM
Right, but I think you're missing what I'm saying (Frank).  

If there are 8 one loss teams that dont win their conference, three E8 bids may be tough.

If there are 7 one loss teams that dont win their conference, we'll be fine.

I'll agree there, except for this:  take a look at Baldwin-Wallace in the OAC.  I think that if they beat Capital, we may have a mess on our hands -- the Committee MAY pick a two-loss B-W team over a one-loss East team and ship them to the East bracket.

Doubtful that Capital loses that game though ... I hope!

Well...B-W played Mount Union better this year than Capital did...I think B-W could win, and in that scenario, a 2-loss OAC team might get the edge.  

Tough to go by what they did vs. Mt. Union - but certainly can see what you're saying about a 2 loss team getting in given that scenario.

That's why I'm holding off with my conference-by-conference update -- I look to the Regional Poll to see if there are any two-loss teams getting greater-than-expected notice.  That was B-W last week, although at #10 in that poll.

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Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 31, 2006, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: Tags on October 31, 2006, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 31, 2006, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:19:43 PM
So if Fisher would need 2 of the 4 scenarios...

1) Rochester wins at least one more game,

Will be tough.  Home against RPI, on the road at Hobart.  Probably needs to happen this week.

(2) King's wins both remaining games,

Little chance.  They'll probably beat FDU, but will be double digit underdogs against Wilkes.

(3) Mt. Ida wins both remaining games

Perhaps.  They're probably a six point underdog vs. WPI.  Should beat Marytime.

(4) Montclair loses at least one game.

at Willy P and West Conn.  Who knows.  Montclair has been a hard team to predict in the past.  Bit of a question mark what team shows up.  

Technically, if Mt. Ida wins one more game and one of the other three things happen, SJF wins.  So, if you feel Maritime is an easy win, then it's a little easier for them to hold on.

I think Rochester can beat Hobart, although it'll be a lot tougher at Hobart. Hobart is a little overrated I believe.

If Hobart beats Union Saturday, a win by Rochester vs. Hobart and a loss by Union vs. RPI gives Rochester the LL.  So, there may be something on the line in that game.

Hopefully that's the case.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: Tags on October 31, 2006, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 31, 2006, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: Tags on October 31, 2006, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 31, 2006, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:19:43 PM
So if Fisher would need 2 of the 4 scenarios...

1) Rochester wins at least one more game,

Will be tough.  Home against RPI, on the road at Hobart.  Probably needs to happen this week.

(2) King's wins both remaining games,

Little chance.  They'll probably beat FDU, but will be double digit underdogs against Wilkes.

(3) Mt. Ida wins both remaining games

Perhaps.  They're probably a six point underdog vs. WPI.  Should beat Marytime.

(4) Montclair loses at least one game.

at Willy P and West Conn.  Who knows.  Montclair has been a hard team to predict in the past.  Bit of a question mark what team shows up.  

Technically, if Mt. Ida wins one more game and one of the other three things happen, SJF wins.  So, if you feel Maritime is an easy win, then it's a little easier for them to hold on.

I think Rochester can beat Hobart, although it'll be a lot tougher at Hobart. Hobart is a little overrated I believe.

If Hobart beats Union Saturday, a win by Rochester vs. Hobart and a loss by Union vs. RPI gives Rochester the LL.  So, there may be something on the line in that game.

Hopefully that's the case.

You shouldn't hope for that too much -- That would make a one-loss Hobart team, which has beaten Alfred, in the Pool C hunt.  There are still landmines like that all over the place in the conference standings across the division.

pg04

Of course with all these scenarios we are throwing around, it's just as likely (or even more likely) that all 3 E-8 teams will NOT be 9-1 at the end of the season...and I think that's what will happen.  

tecmobowler

Now that would be a shocker if U of R came away with the LL Conference!
Thousands of fans join in the revelry, showing their Bomber pride and support for the football team. Some fans take the rowdiness a little too far, however, by starting fights, damaging property and tipping Port-a-Potties. -Ithacan, November 10th

pg04

Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:30:08 PM
Now that would be a shocker if U of R came away with the LL Conference!

I think I'd go into Cardiac Arrest!

Frank Rossi

Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:30:08 PM
Now that would be a shocker if U of R came away with the LL Conference!

I'm going to be adding them to that original list of 63 teams to watch from last week, since their chances are about 20% now (which is the subjective cutoff I used for that chart).  Several teams have fallen off in the meantime, though.

tecmobowler

Am I the only Bomber fan that wishes we were playing Becker, Husson, Suny-Welcome to D-III, or anyone else but Cortland in Week 11?

Will be great to see the old crew, but man, what a tough way to end the year.
Thousands of fans join in the revelry, showing their Bomber pride and support for the football team. Some fans take the rowdiness a little too far, however, by starting fights, damaging property and tipping Port-a-Potties. -Ithacan, November 10th

Frank Rossi

Quote from: tecmobowler on October 31, 2006, 09:32:02 PM
Am I the only Bomber fan that wishes we were playing Becker, Husson, Suny-Welcome to D-III, or anyone else but Cortland in Week 11?

Will be great to see the old crew, but man, what a tough way to end the year.

Well, look at Union/RPI last year.  Way too much on the line for one game -- and two extremely good teams.  I'll admit, I was the most nervous about announcing that game since I was first on the air 12 years ago.  The atmosphere was electric, and the stakes were unreal.

pg04

You can trade cortland and a concession to be named later for Brockport's opponent that week.

Tags

Signing off for the evening guys - have a good one.

Jose - how was the Worlds Largest Cocktail Party?

pg04

Of course If you played a worse team, your QOWI would go down and you really probably wouldn't make the playoffs!