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[wickfan]

wick fan-
now that your qb is in canada- what do the prospects look like.
you still have a nice wr corps and a decent line

any idea what is going to happen on the west side of otown?

We have a senior QB that is a big tall guy, I have not seen enough of him to know if he can move around much. He appears to have a strong arm. I also heard a QB transferred in. But he is not Boltus...will need to run the ball better.  I do know that some games last year we ran the ball well. I know that the threat of Boltus helped the running game, we will wait to see how it works this year. I know a goal in recruiting was to get bigger better offensive linemen....

Defensively, they have to get bigger up front.  At one time last year they didn't have a defensive linemens starting that was more then 230lbs. The Brockport game showed what can happen when you were outsized up front by about 60-80 lbs per man....it was ugly.

Thank god for football coming.....

I don't live in Oneonta so I am not sure about the West Side question.



Thanks

[fisheralum91]

sorry wick fan---figured you were local---wick is on the west side of town--o state- the east.

boltus beat us with his legs many times as well ----i truly believe that he was the glue that held that team together.
no predictions here but i dont see wick beating fisher again until some ungodly talented kid like boltus comes back to the cage.  and trust me---wick had a gift in boltus--a friggin gift.

[wickfan]

sorry wick fan---figured you were local---wick is on the west side of town--o state- the east.

boltus beat us with his legs many times as well ----i truly believe that he was the glue that held that team together.
no predictions here but i dont see wick beating fisher again until some ungodly talented kid like boltus comes back to the cage.  and trust me---wick had a gift in boltus--a friggin gift.

91,
I agree...he was special...I think Coach Carr runs that offense since they typically do not have huge linemen...I think the key will be how we run the ball with 8 in the box.  I think we will need to have a more west coast type system to get the ball out of the QBs hands quickly. I think Tosh Demulder ran the ball well  last year and if we can get some of the freshmen OL up to speed it would help. I know they have some freshmen OL they really like coming in...but that is a hard position to play early on.

Defensively I saw signs up improvement. Played good defense(didn't say great) at times....but the power rushing teams like Brockport and Ithaca were just too big up front. I think the new DC has a good scheme and will improve if they can get the players they need. Losing Tomaino in the Brockport game was huge. When he was playing defensive tackle they stopped Brockport two series in a row. When he went out, they just blew us off the ball. Not havin our FS that game really hurt also.

To be realistic, I think if we can play .500 ball. If we improve our defense, run the ball and not turn the ball over we may surprise a few people.

[fisheralum91]

wickfan
the d---improvement?

i give wick credit where credit is due- that O was awesome--but your d?

Boltus had to score 21 on his own just to keep you in the game.

here is t hoping that november is warm- cuz id make that trip to otown to catch that game

[wickfan]

wickfan
the d---improvement?

i give wick credit where credit is due- that O was awesome--but your d?

Boltus had to score 21 on his own just to keep you in the game.

here is t hoping that november is warm- cuz id make that trip to otown to catch that game

There was definately times they played better defense then the year before. I think Alfred scored 40 or 50 on them last year but only 19 this year.

Against Fisher, they did get some fortunate turnovers but the interception they dropped in the first half could have really helped...

Like I said, at times they played better...they have no depth and when the lost key defensive guys, they were screwed.

I guess you objected to the word improvement...but if you saw the amount of games I did, you would have said the same.

[AUKaz00]

wickfan
the d---improvement?

i give wick credit where credit is due- that O was awesome--but your d?

Boltus had to score 21 on his own just to keep you in the game.

here is t hoping that november is warm- cuz id make that trip to otown to catch that game

There was definately times they played better defense then the year before. I think Alfred scored 40 or 50 on them last year but only 19 this year.

Against Fisher, they did get some fortunate turnovers but the interception they dropped in the first half could have really helped...

Like I said, at times they played better...they have no depth and when the lost key defensive guys, they were screwed.

I guess you objected to the word improvement...but if you saw the amount of games I did, you would have said the same.

The Alfred scores can mostly be attributed to the difference between Keeley in his senior year versus Secky as a freshman, Hendrix ineffective due to his knee injury, and the game being played at the Cage rather than Merrill.  However, Wick played defense when it mattered by stopping the Saxons on that decisive, final drive.  Why Alfred stopped running the ball once they got inside the red zone I will never know...

[wickfan]

wickfan
the d---improvement?

i give wick credit where credit is due- that O was awesome--but your d?

Boltus had to score 21 on his own just to keep you in the game.

here is t hoping that november is warm- cuz id make that trip to otown to catch that game

There was definately times they played better defense then the year before. I think Alfred scored 40 or 50 on them last year but only 19 this year.

Against Fisher, they did get some fortunate turnovers but the interception they dropped in the first half could have really helped...

Like I said, at times they played better...they have no depth and when the lost key defensive guys, they were screwed.

I guess you objected to the word improvement...but if you saw the amount of games I did, you would have said the same.

The Alfred scores can mostly be attributed to the difference between Keeley in his senior year versus Secky as a freshman, Hendrix ineffective due to his knee injury, and the game being played at the Cage rather than Merrill.  However, Wick played defense when it mattered by stopping the Saxons on that decisive, final drive.  Why Alfred stopped running the ball once they got inside the red zone I will never know...

You do have to give the Wick D a little love   I believe they held the Saxons to under 300 total yards and I think 19 was the least amount of points they scored all year.

[AUKaz00]

wickfan
the d---improvement?

i give wick credit where credit is due- that O was awesome--but your d?

Boltus had to score 21 on his own just to keep you in the game.

here is t hoping that november is warm- cuz id make that trip to otown to catch that game

There was definately times they played better defense then the year before. I think Alfred scored 40 or 50 on them last year but only 19 this year.

Against Fisher, they did get some fortunate turnovers but the interception they dropped in the first half could have really helped...

Like I said, at times they played better...they have no depth and when the lost key defensive guys, they were screwed.

I guess you objected to the word improvement...but if you saw the amount of games I did, you would have said the same.

The Alfred scores can mostly be attributed to the difference between Keeley in his senior year versus Secky as a freshman, Hendrix ineffective due to his knee injury, and the game being played at the Cage rather than Merrill.  However, Wick played defense when it mattered by stopping the Saxons on that decisive, final drive.  Why Alfred stopped running the ball once they got inside the red zone I will never know...

You do have to give the Wick D a little love   I believe they held the Saxons to under 300 total yards and I think 19 was the least amount of points they scored all year.

True.  And on the flip side, Alfred help Boltus and Co to their lowest score of the year as well.  Just a goofy game.

[SJFF82]

As far as I can remember, Wick has always had at least 1 or 2 especially talented/athletic offensive players on its  squad.  Had another excellent QB for years in Matt Delly if I recall his name correctly...set some passing records I believe...had that back or receiver as well that was older than 'normal' who broke some national yardage records...'Wick has the knack for grabbing these guys, and although Boltus seems to be the creme of Wick's crop, it aint like they have never had talent and will never again...

[skunks_sidekick]

Hey Men of Alfred...

Had a chance to meet one of your new GA's who will coach the receivers.  He was at my son's football camp.  Nice kid, and he is excited about the season.  I think expectations are high.

[theoriginalupstate]

Hey Men of Alfred...

Had a chance to meet one of your new GA's who will coach the receivers.  He was at my son's football camp.  Nice kid, and he is excited about the season.  I think expectations are high.

Their expectations should be, I really think they are the early front runner for the E8 this year...

Too many questions on the other teams regarding personnel losses...

[wickfan]

wickfan
the d---improvement?

i give wick credit where credit is due- that O was awesome--but your d?

Boltus had to score 21 on his own just to keep you in the game.

here is t hoping that november is warm- cuz id make that trip to otown to catch that game

There was definately times they played better defense then the year before. I think Alfred scored 40 or 50 on them last year but only 19 this year.

Against Fisher, they did get some fortunate turnovers but the interception they dropped in the first half could have really helped...

Like I said, at times they played better...they have no depth and when the lost key defensive guys, they were screwed.

I guess you objected to the word improvement...but if you saw the amount of games I did, you would have said the same.

The Alfred scores can mostly be attributed to the difference between Keeley in his senior year versus Secky as a freshman, Hendrix ineffective due to his knee injury, and the game being played at the Cage rather than Merrill.  However, Wick played defense when it mattered by stopping the Saxons on that decisive, final drive.  Why Alfred stopped running the ball once they got inside the red zone I will never know...

You do have to give the Wick D a little love   I believe they held the Saxons to under 300 total yards and I think 19 was the least amount of points they scored all year.

True.  And on the flip side, Alfred help Boltus and Co to their lowest score of the year as well.  Just a goofy game.

I agree, the Alfred D played well and had a great game plan.

[AUPepBand]

wickfan
the d---improvement?

i give wick credit where credit is due- that O was awesome--but your d?

Boltus had to score 21 on his own just to keep you in the game.

here is t hoping that november is warm- cuz id make that trip to otown to catch that game

There was definately times they played better defense then the year before. I think Alfred scored 40 or 50 on them last year but only 19 this year.

Against Fisher, they did get some fortunate turnovers but the interception they dropped in the first half could have really helped...

Like I said, at times they played better...they have no depth and when the lost key defensive guys, they were screwed.

I guess you objected to the word improvement...but if you saw the amount of games I did, you would have said the same.

The Alfred scores can mostly be attributed to the difference between Keeley in his senior year versus Secky as a freshman, Hendrix ineffective due to his knee injury, and the game being played at the Cage rather than Merrill.  However, Wick played defense when it mattered by stopping the Saxons on that decisive, final drive.  Why Alfred stopped running the ball once they got inside the red zone I will never know...

You do have to give the Wick D a little love   I believe they held the Saxons to under 300 total yards and I think 19 was the least amount of points they scored all year.

True.  And on the flip side, Alfred help Boltus and Co to their lowest score of the year as well.  Just a goofy game.

I agree, the Alfred D played well and had a great game plan.

Pep was there and believes Boltus might well have felt the Saxons had 13 or 14 men on the field every play. Critical to the result was AU's fumbling on their own 5, setting the 'wick up for a 7 point gift to extend their second half lead to 24-12. Nevertheless, as Kaz00 pointed out, the Saxons still had their chance to pull it out in just one of SEVEN Alfred contests decided by a TD or less during 2008.

Pep spent much of the 2008 Saxon season on the edge of his seat, or jumping up and down, which, together with the rest of the pep band, may have caused some structural damage to the home stands at Merrill Field. 

[Bombers798891]

Hey Men of Alfred...

Had a chance to meet one of your new GA's who will coach the receivers.  He was at my son's football camp.  Nice kid, and he is excited about the season.  I think expectations are high.

Their expectations should be, I really think they are the early front runner for the E8 this year...

Too many questions on the other teams regarding personnel losses...

I would agree...the only thing giving me a little bit of pause is that their games against SJF and IC are on the road. However, if I were picking today:

Alfred
Fisher
IC
Springfield
Wick
Utica

Springfield and Wick could flip, as could IC and Fisher, depending on how the H2H turns out

[fisheralum91]

even though AU is going to be a tough team to beat-
as long as the line is solid and our qb keeps the tos down
i think fisher is going to be tough to beat