FB: Empire 8

[AUPepBand]

Pep is preparing for Saterday's road trip and Pep is a bit disappointed he's heard nothing this year of a First Down Club.....understandably, most of its movers and shakers graduated, but is there still such a thing at Ithaca?

Will any posters be at Butterfield this week? or is everyone making the trip for Cortaca?

[dewcrew88]

Honestly, I'm not sure how many more times we have to mention this!!  I think people should just prepare themselves for it rather than to incessently complain about it.

Understood, but pg.04 as much as it may be annoying for you to keep hearing about it, which dlip can understand, it is ****ing annoying for some of us to not have an Eastern team get a #1 seed when they run the table. O.K. O.K. dlip won't repeat himself anymore  .

I understand... and I guess it's still possible that an undefeated East team gets the #1 seed.  Just very improbable, in most minds. 

Take a look at my columns the last three years.. i'm always bitching about MUC moving over. If Alfred and Albright go undefeated, do not move MUC.. it's just unfair.

[dewcrew88]

 It's going to be an interesting game with SJF playing for "pride" while SC is playing for a potential pool C bid...

moral of the story... schedule non-conference games against fitchburg state and mt. ida rather than salisbury state and mt. union. Swap out those two SJF losses with two cake walk W's and this week's game is a lot more interesting. I like the pride 35-28.

that's horse****. Good for Paul Vosburgh and Fisher for playing tough opponents.

[Pat Coleman]

Honestly, I'm not sure how many more times we have to mention this!!  I think people should just prepare themselves for it rather than to incessently complain about it.

Understood, but pg.04 as much as it may be annoying for you to keep hearing about it, which dlip can understand, it is ****ing annoying for some of us to not have an Eastern team get a #1 seed when they run the table. O.K. O.K. dlip won't repeat himself anymore  .

I understand... and I guess it's still possible that an undefeated East team gets the #1 seed.  Just very improbable, in most minds. 

Take a look at my columns the last three years.. i'm always bitching about MUC moving over. If Alfred and Albright go undefeated, do not move MUC.. it's just unfair.

Not fair to the team in another bracket that deserves a No. 1 seed more than Alfred and Albright?

[union89]

Honestly, I'm not sure how many more times we have to mention this!!  I think people should just prepare themselves for it rather than to incessently complain about it.

Understood, but pg.04 as much as it may be annoying for you to keep hearing about it, which dlip can understand, it is ****ing annoying for some of us to not have an Eastern team get a #1 seed when they run the table. O.K. O.K. dlip won't repeat himself anymore  .

I understand... and I guess it's still possible that an undefeated East team gets the #1 seed.  Just very improbable, in most minds.  

Take a look at my columns the last three years.. i'm always bitching about MUC moving over. If Alfred and Albright go undefeated, do not move MUC.. it's just unfair.

Not fair to the team in another bracket that deserves a No. 1 seed more than Alfred and Albright?

The NCAA should make it a parameter of Playoff seeding IN WRITING then.....there would be no complaining then.  The arbitrary changes are what irritate people.  

Seems pretty simple to me.....if the NCAA said, "The Top 4 teams will be seeded as 1's and brackets will be formed around them"....understood.

Is this stated anywhere??  If not, I don't know how you can stop the confusion/irritation.  

When people ask questions about D3.com., Pat states, "Check the FAQ area on the front page."  Is this situation different?  

How can Alfred, "Play better", than going undefeated in the E8?

[Pat Coleman]

I don't think the NCAA can say that because geography won't always permit.

[union89]

Understood, but they could still state the rule of 500 miles.

Doesn't seem that difficult.

If this involved the BCS, the conversation would be a lot bigger than the East Region Post Pattern's D3 Boards.

[AUKaz00]

Then again, I think the Yanks should be pitching Gaudin tonight instead of Burnett, so what do I know?

Plenty?

Well, Burnett took a dump on the mound last night, so now I'll have another double road trip with the Yanks and Saxons to fill my week.  Hopefully the results are the same as a week and a half ago.

Since the AU guys have seen both teams and are probably more objective than any of us: who do you think is the better team in SC-SJF? What do you see as the result? Anyone else?

Can't speak for Kaz00 (don't think anyone could if they tried!), but Pep would say the Fisher defense seemed to put up more of a fight than that of the Pride. Mind you, Secky played only about 22 minutes of the Fisher game whereas he played most of the Springfield contest.

What makes this game most interesting is that while the Fisher defense may be pretty solid against a balanced offensive scheme like AU's, they struggled at Salisbury and likely will have trouble stopping the Pride as well. Pep thinks you're looking at a barn-burner with a 42-38 score, likely in favor of the home team.

But what does Pep know?

On Saxon Warriors!

As for the Springfield-Fisher matchup, the relative scores would say Fisher but that can certainly be deceiving.  In my mind, with a team like Springfield it's all about matching them score for score and then getting a (lucky) stop or two.  If you can get up a score or two on them it definitely hurts them more than a passing team and I think that more than anything else accounts for the lopsided score of the AU-SC game earlier this year.  The same thing happened when Alfred took down the Sharpe led Pride in 2007; Springfield had a first and goal early and Alfred held them then converted that stop into another TD and a 14 point lead.  The Pride are going to get their points, you just need to make sure you get yours first.

[PBR...]

Honestly, I'm not sure how many more times we have to mention this!!  I think people should just prepare themselves for it rather than to incessently complain about it.

Understood, but pg.04 as much as it may be annoying for you to keep hearing about it, which dlip can understand, it is ****ing annoying for some of us to not have an Eastern team get a #1 seed when they run the table. O.K. O.K. dlip won't repeat himself anymore  .

I understand... and I guess it's still possible that an undefeated East team gets the #1 seed.  Just very improbable, in most minds.  

Take a look at my columns the last three years.. i'm always bitching about MUC moving over. If Alfred and Albright go undefeated, do not move MUC.. it's just unfair.

Not fair to the team in another bracket that deserves a No. 1 seed more than Alfred and Albright?

The NCAA should make it a parameter of Playoff seeding IN WRITING then.....there would be no complaining then.  The arbitrary changes are what irritate people.  

Seems pretty simple to me.....if the NCAA said, "The Top 4 teams will be seeded as 1's and brackets will be formed around them"....understood.

Is this stated anywhere??  If not, I don't know how you can stop the confusion/irritation.  

When people ask questions about D3.com., Pat states, "Check the FAQ area on the front page."  Is this situation different?  

How can Alfred, "Play better", than going undefeated in the E8?

correct u89 ... like in march madness where the top 4 teams get moved around accordingly and clearly state it in writing but alas its not...

[dlippiel]

I don't think the NCAA can say that because geography won't always permit.

If geography does not permit than doesn't this make more of a case for making the seeds regional? ****

[dlippiel]

Chris Sharpe was an absolute pleasure to watch/play with.....kid could turn nothing into a td. There would be a pile of players and the next thing youd know he would be 60 yards downfield scoring a td.  I hope carter can get to that level.

Having watched Carter a few times dlip feels he has the potential to become, "Sharpesk." Carter has somewhat of a different style than Chris but to dlip, if he continues to improve, the potential is there for him to get close to that level.

[pumkinattack]

I don't think the NCAA can say that because geography won't always permit.

If geography does not permit than doesn't this make more of a case for making the seeds regional? ****

I think the problem for the east is that, even assuming Alfred or Albright are in the 15-20 range nationally, we don't have a team in the top 10-15, so it looks like crying.  I'd be really interested to see what the committee would do if we had a team with a profile like Monmouth, Case Western or Wittenburg (e.g. kind of in that 8-15 range). 

[PBR...]

I don't think the NCAA can say that because geography won't always permit.

If geography does not permit than doesn't this make more of a case for making the seeds regional? ****

I think the problem for the east is that, even assuming Alfred or Albright are in the 15-20 range nationally, we don't have a team in the top 10-15, so it looks like crying.  I'd be really interested to see what the committee would do if we had a team with a profile like Monmouth, Case Western or Wittenburg (e.g. kind of in that 8-15 range). 

also look at dvc ranked at #20 if they beat albright this weekend their only loss is to #3 wesley. to me dvc should be ranked in the 10-15 range if they were to beat albright. with a road win over kean and also beating johns hopkins one can also make a pretty strong case for them factoring in as well

[pumkinattack]

Yeah, I think DVC could be that good, but I also think you need to be undefeated.  Although, didn't MUC get a #1 seed with a loss (to ONU or someone like that) one year?  I guess the bottom line is that its going to be subjective notwithstanding the veneer of a objective system and that's that. 

[PBR...]

Yeah, I think DVC could be that good, but I also think you need to be undefeated.  Although, didn't MUC get a #1 seed with a loss (to ONU or someone like that) one year?  I guess the bottom line is that its going to be subjective notwithstanding the veneer of a objective system and that's that. 

its just that subjective...last year more than ticked pbr off and showed its not like ncaa hoops in the seedings...dvc played a very difficult schedule last year and in pbr's view was not rewarded for it w/ getting an at large bid. showed to me that you dont need to play top ranked teams, should play mid tier teams and win those games looks much better on the resume than playing top ranked teams and a loss.  sure one can point to the fdu loss  but imho the games played against top ranked teams more than over came that loss.