FB: Empire 8

[Doid23]

Hartwick

EDIT: I'll add one other thing here, if Hartwick isn't careful, Utica is going to crush their program by getting better and holding recruits in the Mohawk Valley that may have chosen Hartwick in the past.  This year could be the tipping point that permanently trades Hartwick and Utica in the heirarchy.

What would lead you to that conclusion? Certainly not the records. Over the past 3 years, Hartwick is 20-9 overall, and 9-6 in the E8. Utica is 9-19 overall, and 3-13 in the E8. Hartwick has won the last 4 over Utica. Might be a battle for the middle, certainly not two elite programs, but I see no trend of Utica taking the next step, and certainly no tipping point representing a change.

[JQV]

Not based on records at all.

Utica seemed to give some decent teams a challenge this year for the first time and, everyone seems to agree that they have a good freshman class and a coach that is a good recruiter.

That is all it was based on.

[BoSox0322]

What Alfred is being exposed to is the opinion of some posters (from both teams) that if Ithaca and SJF arent the two best teams in the league.... then the league is down that year.... and Alfred's team cant compare to any of the good Ithaca or SJF teams...

lets Go Alfred...Fight the elitist....

Saying the league is down because Fisher and IC are having down years has nothing to do with how good Alfred is.

The league is down when most of the teams aren't very good.  EVERY year, Hartwick, Utica, and (the artist formerly known as Norwich), aren't good.  Therefore, there isn't any reason to discuss those teams when discussing whether or not the league is having a down year.

The only teams that are regularly good are IC, Springfield, Alfred and Fisher.  Therefore, those are the teams you talk about when you are arguing the league is down.

The same is true when we were saying that the E8 was having a great year because Hartwick was having an "up" season.  We didn't need to say that Fisher, IC, Alfred and Springfield are also good.

ok ... If Hartwick is so bad ... how do they have a winning record in the years that YOU mentioned vs Fisher one of the teams you mention... a team that isnt ever good wouldnt be able to say that.  vs Alfred over that time i think they're like 4 and 7 ...  they havent played IC or Springfield as much but they at least have a win vs each an some very tight games with Ithaca. 

Fisher... i'm not comin at you on that post... just trying to add something to the arguement.

BUT I will say I even though hartwick has had much more success than Utica .... I do believe Utica is getting better and strong recruiting by them could very well hurt Hartwick ...

and finally can you really say that some Ithaca folks dont have an elitist attitude?  I didnt think that was even a bad statement, i was making a joke of it... just something thats well known.  And with their recent success some SJF people have began acting that way...  And believe me I have a ton of respect for both programs and think a lot of the praise is well deserved ... i was just mocking the elitist point

[Jonny Utah]

What Alfred is being exposed to is the opinion of some posters (from both teams) that if Ithaca and SJF arent the two best teams in the league.... then the league is down that year.... and Alfred's team cant compare to any of the good Ithaca or SJF teams...

lets Go Alfred...Fight the elitist....

Saying the league is down because Fisher and IC are having down years has nothing to do with how good Alfred is.

The league is down when most of the teams aren't very good.  EVERY year, Hartwick, Utica, and (the artist formerly known as Norwich), aren't good.  Therefore, there isn't any reason to discuss those teams when discussing whether or not the league is having a down year.

The only teams that are regularly good are IC, Springfield, Alfred and Fisher.  Therefore, those are the teams you talk about when you are arguing the league is down.

The same is true when we were saying that the E8 was having a great year because Hartwick was having an "up" season.  We didn't need to say that Fisher, IC, Alfred and Springfield are also good.

ok ... If Hartwick is so bad ... how do they have a winning record in the years that YOU mentioned vs Fisher one of the teams you mention... a team that isnt ever good wouldnt be able to say that.  vs Alfred over that time i think they're like 4 and 7 ...  they havent played IC or Springfield as much but they at least have a win vs each an some very tight games with Ithaca. 

Fisher... i'm not comin at you on that post... just trying to add something to the arguement.

BUT I will say I even though hartwick has had much more success than Utica .... I do believe Utica is getting better and strong recruiting by them could very well hurt Hartwick ...

and finally can you really say that some Ithaca folks dont have an elitist attitude?  I didnt think that was even a bad statement, i was making a joke of it... just something thats well known.  And with their recent success some SJF people have began acting that way...  And believe me I have a ton of respect for both programs and think a lot of the praise is well deserved ... i was just mocking the elitist point

Ithaca folks do not have an elitist attitude.  Go win 3 national championships and then talk to me.

[Ithaca84]

Ithaca 35
Alfred 21

Just heard Welch is starting all the JV Freshman and a Couple of the Cheerleaders.

[BoSox0322]

What Alfred is being exposed to is the opinion of some posters (from both teams) that if Ithaca and SJF arent the two best teams in the league.... then the league is down that year.... and Alfred's team cant compare to any of the good Ithaca or SJF teams...

lets Go Alfred...Fight the elitist....

Saying the league is down because Fisher and IC are having down years has nothing to do with how good Alfred is.

The league is down when most of the teams aren't very good.  EVERY year, Hartwick, Utica, and (the artist formerly known as Norwich), aren't good.  Therefore, there isn't any reason to discuss those teams when discussing whether or not the league is having a down year.

The only teams that are regularly good are IC, Springfield, Alfred and Fisher.  Therefore, those are the teams you talk about when you are arguing the league is down.

The same is true when we were saying that the E8 was having a great year because Hartwick was having an "up" season.  We didn't need to say that Fisher, IC, Alfred and Springfield are also good.

ok ... If Hartwick is so bad ... how do they have a winning record in the years that YOU mentioned vs Fisher one of the teams you mention... a team that isnt ever good wouldnt be able to say that.  vs Alfred over that time i think they're like 4 and 7 ...  they havent played IC or Springfield as much but they at least have a win vs each an some very tight games with Ithaca. 

Fisher... i'm not comin at you on that post... just trying to add something to the arguement.

BUT I will say I even though hartwick has had much more success than Utica .... I do believe Utica is getting better and strong recruiting by them could very well hurt Hartwick ...

and finally can you really say that some Ithaca folks dont have an elitist attitude?  I didnt think that was even a bad statement, i was making a joke of it... just something thats well known.  And with their recent success some SJF people have began acting that way...  And believe me I have a ton of respect for both programs and think a lot of the praise is well deserved ... i was just mocking the elitist point

Ithaca folks do not have an elitist attitude.  Go win 3 national championships and then talk to me.

ha ha +k

[tecmobowler]

Alfred can't win at Butterfield!

Bombers have been playing crappy every week to suck in the Saxons and make them feel overconfident.

IC-55
Alfred-6

[TheEnforcer]

What's up, y'all.

I live in Memphis now, so I can say y'all.  Teaching kids.  And yes, dubbz, I can read.

Anyone have any extra Cortaca tickets?  I have one but several fellow Bomber alums couldn't make it by the time they sold out.  Thanks.

Y'all.

GO BOMBERS

[Ralph Turner]

What's up, y'all.

I live in Memphis now, so I can say y'all.  Teaching kids.  And yes, dubbz, I can read.

Anyone have any extra Cortaca tickets?  I have one but several fellow Bomber alums couldn't make it by the time they sold out.  Thanks.

Y'all.

GO BOMBERS

Welcome to the South, Enforcer!

[Bombers798891]

Ithaca 35
Alfred 21

Just heard Welch is starting all the JV Freshman and a Couple of the Cheerleaders.

That would probably result in a more effective offense and maybe THEY could make an in-game adjustment

[Bombers798891]

What Alfred is being exposed to is the opinion of some posters (from both teams) that if Ithaca and SJF arent the two best teams in the league.... then the league is down that year.... and Alfred's team cant compare to any of the good Ithaca or SJF teams...

lets Go Alfred...Fight the elitist....

Saying the league is down because Fisher and IC are having down years has nothing to do with how good Alfred is.

The league is down when most of the teams aren't very good.  EVERY year, Hartwick, Utica, and (the artist formerly known as Norwich), aren't good.  Therefore, there isn't any reason to discuss those teams when discussing whether or not the league is having a down year.

The only teams that are regularly good are IC, Springfield, Alfred and Fisher.  Therefore, those are the teams you talk about when you are arguing the league is down.

The same is true when we were saying that the E8 was having a great year because Hartwick was having an "up" season.  We didn't need to say that Fisher, IC, Alfred and Springfield are also good.

ok ... If Hartwick is so bad ... how do they have a winning record in the years that YOU mentioned vs Fisher one of the teams you mention... a team that isnt ever good wouldnt be able to say that. 

Sample size, my good man. I learned that (sort of) when I stayed awake in Stats class.

[BoSox0322]

What Alfred is being exposed to is the opinion of some posters (from both teams) that if Ithaca and SJF arent the two best teams in the league.... then the league is down that year.... and Alfred's team cant compare to any of the good Ithaca or SJF teams...

lets Go Alfred...Fight the elitist....

Saying the league is down because Fisher and IC are having down years has nothing to do with how good Alfred is.

The league is down when most of the teams aren't very good.  EVERY year, Hartwick, Utica, and (the artist formerly known as Norwich), aren't good.  Therefore, there isn't any reason to discuss those teams when discussing whether or not the league is having a down year.

The only teams that are regularly good are IC, Springfield, Alfred and Fisher.  Therefore, those are the teams you talk about when you are arguing the league is down.

The same is true when we were saying that the E8 was having a great year because Hartwick was having an "up" season.  We didn't need to say that Fisher, IC, Alfred and Springfield are also good.

ok ... If Hartwick is so bad ... how do they have a winning record in the years that YOU mentioned vs Fisher one of the teams you mention... a team that isnt ever good wouldnt be able to say that. 

Sample size, my good man. I learned that (sort of) when I stayed awake in Stats class.

thats the sample size that was provided to me

[Bombers798891]

What Alfred is being exposed to is the opinion of some posters (from both teams) that if Ithaca and SJF arent the two best teams in the league.... then the league is down that year.... and Alfred's team cant compare to any of the good Ithaca or SJF teams...

lets Go Alfred...Fight the elitist....

Saying the league is down because Fisher and IC are having down years has nothing to do with how good Alfred is.

The league is down when most of the teams aren't very good.  EVERY year, Hartwick, Utica, and (the artist formerly known as Norwich), aren't good.  Therefore, there isn't any reason to discuss those teams when discussing whether or not the league is having a down year.

The only teams that are regularly good are IC, Springfield, Alfred and Fisher.  Therefore, those are the teams you talk about when you are arguing the league is down.

The same is true when we were saying that the E8 was having a great year because Hartwick was having an "up" season.  We didn't need to say that Fisher, IC, Alfred and Springfield are also good.

ok ... If Hartwick is so bad ... how do they have a winning record in the years that YOU mentioned vs Fisher one of the teams you mention... a team that isnt ever good wouldnt be able to say that. 

Sample size, my good man. I learned that (sort of) when I stayed awake in Stats class.

thats the sample size that was provided to me

Ok. So in both cases it's too small. Just saying

[WICB Sports]

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[theoriginalupstate]

What Alfred is being exposed to is the opinion of some posters (from both teams) that if Ithaca and SJF arent the two best teams in the league.... then the league is down that year.... and Alfred's team cant compare to any of the good Ithaca or SJF teams...

lets Go Alfred...Fight the elitist....

Saying the league is down because Fisher and IC are having down years has nothing to do with how good Alfred is.

The league is down when most of the teams aren't very good.  EVERY year, Hartwick, Utica, and (the artist formerly known as Norwich), aren't good.  Therefore, there isn't any reason to discuss those teams when discussing whether or not the league is having a down year.

The only teams that are regularly good are IC, Springfield, Alfred and Fisher.  Therefore, those are the teams you talk about when you are arguing the league is down.

The same is true when we were saying that the E8 was having a great year because Hartwick was having an "up" season.  We didn't need to say that Fisher, IC, Alfred and Springfield are also good.

ok ... If Hartwick is so bad ... how do they have a winning record in the years that YOU mentioned vs Fisher one of the teams you mention... a team that isnt ever good wouldnt be able to say that. 

Sample size, my good man. I learned that (sort of) when I stayed awake in Stats class.

thats the sample size that was provided to me

Ok. So in both cases it's too small. Just saying

That's what she said...