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PBR...

Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 12, 2009, 02:51:24 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 12, 2009, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 12, 2009, 02:40:10 PM
QuoteDo you agree with the SC ranking?

dlip sure does not and he was big on the Pride until their debacle against SJF. Honestly whatever anyone says dlip feels ****in SJF is a very good team "compared to the East Region." After SC had two chances to make a statement for legitiamate pool C consideration and they **** the bed on both.

I agree with this...though I don't think that either team gets into the NCAA's with a Pool C bid...obviously SJFC can if Utica somehow beats Alfred this weekend...

You are right Yanks neither SJF or the Pride will get in if you were to ask dlip.

correct...and to tie this into another discussion point...clearly the East is lacking Pool C candidates...as Pat so often throws in our faces  ;)...but why not import the 6,7 and or 8 seeds instead of the 1 seed as East bracket fillers.  DVC is a worthy #1....they are not MUC or UWW, but who is?  When you take 1's out of their own regions, you leave their region susceptable to the mediocrity you were trying to avoid.  Example....#7 Wheaton advanced right through the MUCless North in 08 into a final four bashing by none other than ....MUC!!!   If anything, you would pull a West team over...they have 5 undefeateds....I know, travels regs....but then that is the answer...leave the regions alone EXCEPT when a particular region lacks play-off quality teams altogether, like this years East.  Then under these circumstances, you simply fill up the bottom of the bracket with the other play-off contenders....I guess I feel that if you have 2 options such as a MUCless North, like last year where a #7 blows right thru it or an East with a good, but not great #1 (DVC) and a mediocre 2-7 behind them, then I take the latter....I mean, would it be a travesty if #1 DVC goes to the Final Four with a 13-1 record having lost only to Wesley....certainly beats #7 Wheaton in the Final Four now doesnt it??? My humble opinion...

thoughts?

hey pbr would think its great if dvc were to get to the final four... ;D

BoSox0322

Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

BoSox0322

Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 04:40:07 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 12, 2009, 02:51:24 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 12, 2009, 02:42:12 PM
Quote from: dlippiel on November 12, 2009, 02:40:10 PM
QuoteDo you agree with the SC ranking?

dlip sure does not and he was big on the Pride until their debacle against SJF. Honestly whatever anyone says dlip feels ****in SJF is a very good team "compared to the East Region." After SC had two chances to make a statement for legitiamate pool C consideration and they **** the bed on both.

I agree with this...though I don't think that either team gets into the NCAA's with a Pool C bid...obviously SJFC can if Utica somehow beats Alfred this weekend...

You are right Yanks neither SJF or the Pride will get in if you were to ask dlip.

correct...and to tie this into another discussion point...clearly the East is lacking Pool C candidates...as Pat so often throws in our faces  ;)...but why not import the 6,7 and or 8 seeds instead of the 1 seed as East bracket fillers.  DVC is a worthy #1....they are not MUC or UWW, but who is?  When you take 1's out of their own regions, you leave their region susceptable to the mediocrity you were trying to avoid.  Example....#7 Wheaton advanced right through the MUCless North in 08 into a final four bashing by none other than ....MUC!!!   If anything, you would pull a West team over...they have 5 undefeateds....I know, travels regs....but then that is the answer...leave the regions alone EXCEPT when a particular region lacks play-off quality teams altogether, like this years East.  Then under these circumstances, you simply fill up the bottom of the bracket with the other play-off contenders....I guess I feel that if you have 2 options such as a MUCless North, like last year where a #7 blows right thru it or an East with a good, but not great #1 (DVC) and a mediocre 2-7 behind them, then I take the latter....I mean, would it be a travesty if #1 DVC goes to the Final Four with a 13-1 record having lost only to Wesley....certainly beats #7 Wheaton in the Final Four now doesnt it??? My humble opinion...

thoughts?

I like it

Yanks 99

Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 13, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

SJF has no shot at a Pool C, not with three losses and a lot of Pool C contenders out there this year...they can still get the E8 AQ if Alfred loses to Utica and SJF beats Wick this weekend. 
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

saxontad

To quote Mora sr. "Playoffs??"  The topic is unusual for us at Alfred.  I mean,  we did make it back in the early 80's but obviously that's a long  time.  And even with my disappointment with the Ithaca game, I am extremely proud of this group and hope that they have focused this week on the task at hand.

On Saxon Warriors!  

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 13, 2009, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 13, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

SJF has no shot at a Pool C, not with three losses and a lot of Pool C contenders out there this year...they can still get the E8 AQ if Alfred loses to Utica and SJF beats Wick this weekend. 

No one in the SJF fan base thinks that SJF has any claim to a Pool C. 

They know that the only way they get in is by a miracle Utica win (no offense Dew).

Yanks 99

Quote from: Upstate on November 13, 2009, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 13, 2009, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 13, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

SJF has no shot at a Pool C, not with three losses and a lot of Pool C contenders out there this year...they can still get the E8 AQ if Alfred loses to Utica and SJF beats Wick this weekend. 

No one in the SJF fan base thinks that SJF has any claim to a Pool C. 

They know that the only way they get in is by a miracle Utica win (no offense Dew).

I don't think anyone is rubbing it in...I know I wasn't...just stating an opinion that I don't think that there is anyway they can get a Pool C this year.  I think maybe they could have if they beat Salisbury, unfortuntately...
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 13, 2009, 09:17:38 AM
Quote from: Upstate on November 13, 2009, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 13, 2009, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 13, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

SJF has no shot at a Pool C, not with three losses and a lot of Pool C contenders out there this year...they can still get the E8 AQ if Alfred loses to Utica and SJF beats Wick this weekend. 

No one in the SJF fan base thinks that SJF has any claim to a Pool C. 

They know that the only way they get in is by a miracle Utica win (no offense Dew).

I don't think anyone is rubbing it in...I know I wasn't...just stating an opinion that I don't think that there is anyway they can get a Pool C this year.  I think maybe they could have if they beat Salisbury, unfortuntately...

Yeah it was directed at BoSox, should have just quoted him...


SJFF82

Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 13, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

No...nobody is saying, typing, implying, thinking, texting, emailing, writing, dreaming, wondering, pondering, sign-languaging (signing), lip-syncing, morse-coding or smoke-signaling....THAT.

But, since you asked, yes they do...They win and AU loses...TASTE IT!!!

Bombers798891

Quote from: Ty1983 on November 13, 2009, 11:41:32 AM
Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 13, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

No...nobody is saying, typing, implying, thinking, texting, emailing, writing, dreaming, wondering, pondering, sign-languaging (signing), lip-syncing, morse-coding or smoke-signaling....THAT.

But, since you asked, yes they do...They win and AU loses...TASTE IT!!!

Of course, Fisher has a chance. A slim one, but one nonetheless.

On a related note, I'm somewhat surprised IC didn't apply for an ECAC bid. I know normally, they only apply when they think they could have made the NCAA's and want to end the season emphatically (1998, 2004), but I guess the debacle up at Union in 1999 taught them a lesson about throwing their hat in the ring with a less-than-great team.

dewcrew88

Quote from: Upstate on November 13, 2009, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 13, 2009, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 13, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

SJF has no shot at a Pool C, not with three losses and a lot of Pool C contenders out there this year...they can still get the E8 AQ if Alfred loses to Utica and SJF beats Wick this weekend.  

No one in the SJF fan base thinks that SJF has any claim to a Pool C.  

They know that the only way they get in is by a miracle Utica win (no offense Dew).

I don't think a UC win  would be a miracle, but it'll be tough for the Pioneers.

Yanks 99

Quote from: dewcrew88 on November 13, 2009, 12:10:50 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 13, 2009, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 13, 2009, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: BoSox0322 on November 13, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: sjfcards on November 12, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on November 12, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
OK, all kiddin aside, I reread your replies Frank...so you think it looks like SC still has a shot at Pool C....that is crazy (not you, the ranking).  SC should have as much a chance at that as SJF.... .000000000000009

Same conference, SJF has better conference record today (and will remain if they beak Wick)

AU smacked SC, AU snuck by SJF

...and, uhm, SJF whooped the Pride on the road.  The stats were even more lopsided than the score.

Do you agree with the SC ranking?


Also, if Fisher wins tihs weekend, regardless of what AU does, they can at least claim a share of the E8 title. Just saying, in an argument about who should and who should not, Head to head, conference record, and hardware are pretty convincing arguments.

Are you saying you think SJF has a shot at the NCAAs?

SJF has no shot at a Pool C, not with three losses and a lot of Pool C contenders out there this year...they can still get the E8 AQ if Alfred loses to Utica and SJF beats Wick this weekend.  

No one in the SJF fan base thinks that SJF has any claim to a Pool C.  

They know that the only way they get in is by a miracle Utica win (no offense Dew).

I don't think a UC win  would be a miracle, but it'll be tough for the Pioneers.

Agree to disagree...maybe somewhere between extremely unlikely and miracle???
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

JQV

Quote from: dewcrew88 on November 13, 2009, 12:10:50 PMI don't think a UC win  would be a miracle, but it'll be tough for the Pioneers.

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AUKaz00

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Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 13, 2009, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: dewcrew88 on November 13, 2009, 12:10:50 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 13, 2009, 09:11:56 AM
No one in the SJF fan base thinks that SJF has any claim to a Pool C.  

They know that the only way they get in is by a miracle Utica win (no offense Dew).

I don't think a UC win  would be a miracle, but it'll be tough for the Pioneers.

Agree to disagree...maybe somewhere between extremely unlikely and miracle???

I'd place Fisher's odds at making the tourney at 12%.  It's science!
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dewcrew88

Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 13, 2009, 12:14:13 PM
Agree to disagree...maybe somewhere between extremely unlikely and miracle???

It would be unlikely, but not a miracle if they beat Alfred.