FB: Empire 8

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

You guys need to get off the implication that Coach Phelps is screwing his alma mater.  I know him and you won't find anyone who knows him that would say he's anything less than a class act.  It's a shame he couldn't do more at SLU, but it's his college, he spent a long time there and you need to know something, anything/anything about the guy or situation before speculating cluelessly.  Also, most kids are locked in at this point, it's the 3rd week of April. 

Pep agrees. +K 

I know there may be plenty of valid reasons as to why he left the program but if you're going to leave, then leave at the end of the fall semester.  I'm sure there are thousands of reasons (family, personal, etc) to rationalize leaving now but I don't have the facts. It puts the program in a difficult position recruiting wise and I know this isn't Tennessee but you would be crazy not to think d3 players don't make decisions based on sports.  And I would say the majority of students choose their school in April/May.   All I stated was it left the program out to dry a little because it will take a minimum 3-4 weeks to find a replacement when kids are making their decisions.

Plus its April we need something to talk about....

Maybe he didn't get the job offer until recently...

[bomber3]

You guys need to get off the implication that Coach Phelps is screwing his alma mater.  I know him and you won't find anyone who knows him that would say he's anything less than a class act.  It's a shame he couldn't do more at SLU, but it's his college, he spent a long time there and you need to know something, anything/anything about the guy or situation before speculating cluelessly.  Also, most kids are locked in at this point, it's the 3rd week of April. 

Pep agrees. +K 

I know there may be plenty of valid reasons as to why he left the program but if you're going to leave, then leave at the end of the fall semester.  I'm sure there are thousands of reasons (family, personal, etc) to rationalize leaving now but I don't have the facts. It puts the program in a difficult position recruiting wise and I know this isn't Tennessee but you would be crazy not to think d3 players don't make decisions based on sports.  And I would say the majority of students choose their school in April/May.   All I stated was it left the program out to dry a little because it will take a minimum 3-4 weeks to find a replacement when kids are making their decisions.

Plus its April we need something to talk about....

Maybe he didn't get the job offer until recently...

That is one of a million possibilities....

[AUPepBand]

Perhaps we can come up with the 999,999 other possibilities.

Here's one:
He's a native of Laconia, NH...perhaps he has family near Salisbury, CT and wants to be closer due to health or other issues.

[bomber3]

Perhaps we can come up with the 999,999 other possibilities.

Here's one:
He's a native of Laconia, NH...perhaps he has family near Salisbury, CT and wants to be closer due to health or other issues.

3 possibilities down, 999,997 to go...

[sjfcards]

Maybe he wanted to give the D3 Football boards a boost in late April. I appreciate how much he cares.

[pumkinattack]

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree about this.  Coach Phelps is a true stand up guy.  Even if I bought that kids were still figuring out their college decisions, which by and large I don't believe to be the case in the 3rd week of April, the guy is pure class.  He was an assistant my FR year (along with Bobby Wynn and Ike Collins) and I know personally that he'd break his back for his kids.  You just don't know what you're talking about.  I can appreciate that your bored and wanted to post about something DIII related, but you're just wrong. 

Sorry if this is coming across as harsh, but I know Chris Phelps and have no problem defending him against random, baseless conjecture.  Of all the people that deserve any criticism, Coach Phelps is wayyyyyyy down the list (I'm much further up that list, for example). 

And SJFCards, if you think this will be a problem in his future candidacy for other positions, then you must not think much of Coach Cragg and the administration at SLU's opinion of Coach Phelps because they'll gladly spot him a solid rec (along with Collins, Wynn, Kevin Farr, Mike Hanna and others). 

[AUPepBand]

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree about this.  Coach Phelps is a true stand up guy.  Even if I bought that kids were still figuring out their college decisions, which by and large I don't believe to be the case in the 3rd week of April, the guy is pure class.  He was an assistant my FR year (along with Bobby Wynn and Ike Collins) and I know personally that he'd break his back for his kids.  You just don't know what you're talking about.  I can appreciate that your bored and wanted to post about something DIII related, but you're just wrong. 

Sorry if this is coming across as harsh, but I know Chris Phelps and have no problem defending him against random, baseless conjecture.  Of all the people that deserve any criticism, Coach Phelps is wayyyyyyy down the list (I'm much further up that list, for example). 

And SJFCards, if you think this will be a problem in his future candidacy for other positions, then you must not think much of Coach Cragg and the administration at SLU's opinion of Coach Phelps because they'll gladly spot him a solid rec (along with Collins, Wynn, Kevin Farr, Mike Hanna and others). 

Pep agrees. Nothing but respect here for Coach Chris Phelps. While Pep doesn't know Coach Phelps personally, Pep has seen many Saints-Saxons games during his coaching career (and as a player, too) and he runs a class program. The SLU-AU series has always been well contested yet exhibiting good sportsmanship on both sides.

[dlippiel]

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree about this.  Coach Phelps is a true stand up guy.  Even if I bought that kids were still figuring out their college decisions, which by and large I don't believe to be the case in the 3rd week of April, the guy is pure class.  He was an assistant my FR year (along with Bobby Wynn and Ike Collins) and I know personally that he'd break his back for his kids.  You just don't know what you're talking about.  I can appreciate that your bored and wanted to post about something DIII related, but you're just wrong.  

Sorry if this is coming across as harsh, but I know Chris Phelps and have no problem defending him against random, baseless conjecture.  Of all the people that deserve any criticism, Coach Phelps is wayyyyyyy down the list (I'm much further up that list, for example).  

And SJFCards, if you think this will be a problem in his future candidacy for other positions, then you must not think much of Coach Cragg and the administration at SLU's opinion of Coach Phelps because they'll gladly spot him a solid rec (along with Collins, Wynn, Kevin Farr, Mike Hanna and others).  

Pep agrees. Nothing but respect here for Coach Chris Phelps. While Pep doesn't know Coach Phelps personally, Pep has seen many Saints-Saxons games during his coaching career (and as a player, too) and he runs a class program. The SLU-AU series has always been well contested yet exhibiting good sportsmanship on both sides.

Also in fairness to Phelps it's not like SLU is a ****ing easy sell for a football recruit. "Kid you have to come play football here because
1.) we struggle year in and year out
2.) our uniforms are ass ugly
3.) out football stadium makes Canton High's look like a palace
4.) all anyone cares about and all you will hear about is hockey every ****ing day. Especially on days where you work your ass off in practice in late October/early November a student will come up to you and ask if you want to go see a hockey game on the same ****ing day you have an away football game
5.) the second your losing football season is over the sun will go away for at least 150 straight days and the sun will set at 3:45 in the ****ing afternoon
6.) your girlfriend will always promise to come see you but seemingly can never make the trip that far out into bumble****
7.) we are an incredible academic school so if all of the previous bothers you and you slack on your studies once; your ****ed
8.) shall I go on???

Football Stadium is to the right next to the frozen musk ox!!!

In all honestly dlip is playing and really likes SLU a ton and respects them as a LL opponent. His point is that Phelps really did have a tough time up there as would almost anyone. dlip feels he is a solid coach who definitely managed to bring some talent up there and have a bit of success. dlip wishes him tons of luck and hopes SLU works hard to replace him with an admirable deserving coach.

[bomber3]

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree about this.  Coach Phelps is a true stand up guy.  Even if I bought that kids were still figuring out their college decisions, which by and large I don't believe to be the case in the 3rd week of April, the guy is pure class.  He was an assistant my FR year (along with Bobby Wynn and Ike Collins) and I know personally that he'd break his back for his kids.  You just don't know what you're talking about.  I can appreciate that your bored and wanted to post about something DIII related, but you're just wrong. 

Sorry if this is coming across as harsh, but I know Chris Phelps and have no problem defending him against random, baseless conjecture.  Of all the people that deserve any criticism, Coach Phelps is wayyyyyyy down the list (I'm much further up that list, for example). 

And SJFCards, if you think this will be a problem in his future candidacy for other positions, then you must not think much of Coach Cragg and the administration at SLU's opinion of Coach Phelps because they'll gladly spot him a solid rec (along with Collins, Wynn, Kevin Farr, Mike Hanna and others). 

Nothing I said was false.  You can honestly say him leaving in the middle fof April doesn't put the program in a bit of a bad spot? I never said anything about him not being a stand-up guy or anything all I stated was 1. he put the program at a bit of a disadvantage in terms of recruiting by leaving at this time and 2. the program is in a tough spot trying to find his replacement in the end of april/may.

Both of those statements are coming from an outside source and are 100% true.  He can still be  stand-up guy and a class act quit taking things so personal geesh!

[sjfcards]

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree about this.  Coach Phelps is a true stand up guy.  Even if I bought that kids were still figuring out their college decisions, which by and large I don't believe to be the case in the 3rd week of April, the guy is pure class.  He was an assistant my FR year (along with Bobby Wynn and Ike Collins) and I know personally that he'd break his back for his kids.  You just don't know what you're talking about.  I can appreciate that your bored and wanted to post about something DIII related, but you're just wrong. 

Sorry if this is coming across as harsh, but I know Chris Phelps and have no problem defending him against random, baseless conjecture.  Of all the people that deserve any criticism, Coach Phelps is wayyyyyyy down the list (I'm much further up that list, for example). 

And SJFCards, if you think this will be a problem in his future candidacy for other positions, then you must not think much of Coach Cragg and the administration at SLU's opinion of Coach Phelps because they'll gladly spot him a solid rec (along with Collins, Wynn, Kevin Farr, Mike Hanna and others). 

Nothing I said was false.  You can honestly say him leaving in the middle fof April doesn't put the program in a bit of a bad spot? I never said anything about him not being a stand-up guy or anything all I stated was 1. he put the program at a bit of a disadvantage in terms of recruiting by leaving at this time and 2. the program is in a tough spot trying to find his replacement in the end of april/may.

Both of those statements are coming from an outside source and are 100% true.  He can still be  stand-up guy and a class act quit taking things so personal geesh!

Agreed! I have yet to see anyone say Coach Phelps is a bad dude. Any coach that leaves at this point in the year puts the program at a disadvantage compared to programs that do not have to find a new coach, or a team that has a coach that left right at the end of the season.
I can't say that I know Coach Phelps, or that I have followed SLU all that closely over the years, but I think you could have this conversation about any coach who makes the decision to leave late in the year.

[bomber3]

Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree about this.  Coach Phelps is a true stand up guy.  Even if I bought that kids were still figuring out their college decisions, which by and large I don't believe to be the case in the 3rd week of April, the guy is pure class.  He was an assistant my FR year (along with Bobby Wynn and Ike Collins) and I know personally that he'd break his back for his kids.  You just don't know what you're talking about.  I can appreciate that your bored and wanted to post about something DIII related, but you're just wrong. 

Sorry if this is coming across as harsh, but I know Chris Phelps and have no problem defending him against random, baseless conjecture.  Of all the people that deserve any criticism, Coach Phelps is wayyyyyyy down the list (I'm much further up that list, for example). 

And SJFCards, if you think this will be a problem in his future candidacy for other positions, then you must not think much of Coach Cragg and the administration at SLU's opinion of Coach Phelps because they'll gladly spot him a solid rec (along with Collins, Wynn, Kevin Farr, Mike Hanna and others). 

Nothing I said was false.  You can honestly say him leaving in the middle fof April doesn't put the program in a bit of a bad spot? I never said anything about him not being a stand-up guy or anything all I stated was 1. he put the program at a bit of a disadvantage in terms of recruiting by leaving at this time and 2. the program is in a tough spot trying to find his replacement in the end of april/may.

Both of those statements are coming from an outside source and are 100% true.  He can still be  stand-up guy and a class act quit taking things so personal geesh!

Agreed! I have yet to see anyone say Coach Phelps is a bad dude. Any coach that leaves at this point in the year puts the program at a disadvantage compared to programs that do not have to find a new coach, or a team that has a coach that left right at the end of the season.
I can't say that I know Coach Phelps, or that I have followed SLU all that closely over the years, but I think you could have this conversation about any coach who makes the decision to leave late in the year.

Thank you! Yes, not to mention spring practice is currently underway for all teams so the new coach wouldn't have the luxury of meeting his players, implementing any strategy, or evaluating talent until AUGUST.  This is probably the biggest downside of the whole situation from St. Lawrence's standpoint. 

[pumkinattack]

When would be a good time to leave then?  Winter, when more important recruiting is going on, summer,before preseason starts and there's no chance of finding a replacement for the upcoming season, or fall during the season?  This is actually about the best time to leave.  And spring practice?  Unless things have changed a lot in 10 years, all that is, is early morning runs to make kids puke, weightlifting and figuring out who to cut to make room for the large incoming class.  Hobart has a number of two sport guys who are playing another sport in the spring typically (lax and sometimes tennis).

Seriously, if a coach can't leave in late April, when can he leave?  My point is Phelps cares a lot more about SLU and the kids he's recruited than anyone on these boards, so what's the point of commenting that he's leaving the school high and dry?

[sjfcards]

When would be a good time to leave then?  Winter, when more important recruiting is going on, summer,before preseason starts and there's no chance of finding a replacement for the upcoming season, or fall during the season?  This is actually about the best time to leave.  And spring practice?  Unless things have changed a lot in 10 years, all that is, is early morning runs to make kids puke, weightlifting and figuring out who to cut to make room for the large incoming class.  Hobart has a number of two sport guys who are playing another sport in the spring typically (lax and sometimes tennis).

Seriously, if a coach can't leave in late April, when can he leave?  My point is Phelps cares a lot more about SLU and the kids he's recruited than anyone on these boards, so what's the point of commenting that he's leaving the school high and dry?

I would say the best time to leave is right after the season, before the recruiting really gets going, and with plenty of time for the program to find a replacement. That is why almost all schools fire coaches as quickly as possible when a season is over (and why most coaches leave at that time as well). Again, no one is saying that Coach Phelps does not care about the program or the kids. We comment on it because it is a rare decision to leave at this part of the year. I don't think there is anything wrong with his decision. Coaches go when they need to, and a "better" opportunity may not wait for the season to be over. But, it is probably worth talking about.

[dlippiel]

When would be a good time to leave then?  Winter, when more important recruiting is going on, summer,before preseason starts and there's no chance of finding a replacement for the upcoming season, or fall during the season?  This is actually about the best time to leave.  And spring practice?  Unless things have changed a lot in 10 years, all that is, is early morning runs to make kids puke, weightlifting and figuring out who to cut to make room for the large incoming class.  Hobart has a number of two sport guys who are playing another sport in the spring typically (lax and sometimes tennis).

Seriously, if a coach can't leave in late April, when can he leave?  My point is Phelps cares a lot more about SLU and the kids he's recruited than anyone on these boards, so what's the point of commenting that he's leaving the school high and dry?

To say he is leaving the school high and dry is ridiculous. dlip thinks some just like to poke and try to find any fault in what others do...or just have discussions? dlip honestly does not think it was a personal shot at Phelps.

[AUPepBand]

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