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[theoriginalupstate]

The hilarity of Norwich getting a #1 seed is too much for me to handle...

[labart96]

The hilarity of Norwich getting a #1 seed is too much for me to handle...

Especially if they faced a 9-1 IC as a "8th seed" pool C for example and loses by 4-5 TDs....

[Yanks 99]

Based on prior discussions we've had on ITH with the head(s) of the NCAA DIII Football Championship Committee, there is some precedent, if not preference to take a 10-0 team over a 9-1 team....

Sorry to bring this discussion back from the dead, but we're a week deeper into the season with the same question lingering.  To add to the intrigue, last year the committee intimated that had there been an undefeated team in the East, Mount Union wouldn't have been moved in.  Now, suppose that not only the ECFC champ is undefeated, but that there isn't another undefeated East team.  Could we possibly have a Norwich bracket?!?  The Norwich/SUNY-Maritime game on 10/30 could actually be for the top seed in the playoffs!

Unfortunately, it will probably happen someday soon (maybe this year even).  Like the year Curry ('08 I think) doesn't even make their conference championship game, yet gets a Pool C bid over the second place teams from the NJAC (Montclair), E8 (Hartwick), and LL (RPI).  This possible scenario would kill the East...imagine an East Bracket where we have Mount Union, Norwich, 2 teams from the NEFC (Curry as a Pool C and whoever wins the NEFC), and then only the league champions from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC.  It would be the worst bracket ever...

[maxpower]

Based on prior discussions we've had on ITH with the head(s) of the NCAA DIII Football Championship Committee, there is some precedent, if not preference to take a 10-0 team over a 9-1 team....

Sorry to bring this discussion back from the dead, but we're a week deeper into the season with the same question lingering.  To add to the intrigue, last year the committee intimated that had there been an undefeated team in the East, Mount Union wouldn't have been moved in.  Now, suppose that not only the ECFC champ is undefeated, but that there isn't another undefeated East team.  Could we possibly have a Norwich bracket?!?  The Norwich/SUNY-Maritime game on 10/30 could actually be for the top seed in the playoffs!

Unfortunately, it will probably happen someday soon (maybe this year even).  Like the year Curry ('08 I think) doesn't even make their conference championship game, yet gets a Pool C bid over the second place teams from the NJAC (Montclair), E8 (Hartwick), and LL (RPI).  This possible scenario would kill the East...imagine an East Bracket where we have Mount Union, Norwich, 2 teams from the NEFC (Curry as a Pool C and whoever wins the NEFC), and then only the league champions from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC.  It would be the worst bracket ever...

Hate to be the one to remind, but Curry did make it to the second round that year. Won't say how...

[theoriginalupstate]

Based on prior discussions we've had on ITH with the head(s) of the NCAA DIII Football Championship Committee, there is some precedent, if not preference to take a 10-0 team over a 9-1 team....

Sorry to bring this discussion back from the dead, but we're a week deeper into the season with the same question lingering.  To add to the intrigue, last year the committee intimated that had there been an undefeated team in the East, Mount Union wouldn't have been moved in.  Now, suppose that not only the ECFC champ is undefeated, but that there isn't another undefeated East team.  Could we possibly have a Norwich bracket?!?  The Norwich/SUNY-Maritime game on 10/30 could actually be for the top seed in the playoffs!

Unfortunately, it will probably happen someday soon (maybe this year even).  Like the year Curry ('08 I think) doesn't even make their conference championship game, yet gets a Pool C bid over the second place teams from the NJAC (Montclair), E8 (Hartwick), and LL (RPI).  This possible scenario would kill the East...imagine an East Bracket where we have Mount Union, Norwich, 2 teams from the NEFC (Curry as a Pool C and whoever wins the NEFC), and then only the league champions from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC.  It would be the worst bracket ever...

Hate to be the one to remind, but Curry did make it to the second round that year. Won't say how...

Didn't they also beat Team Boltus in the first round the year before? Or was it two years before?

[Yanks 99]

Based on prior discussions we've had on ITH with the head(s) of the NCAA DIII Football Championship Committee, there is some precedent, if not preference to take a 10-0 team over a 9-1 team....

Sorry to bring this discussion back from the dead, but we're a week deeper into the season with the same question lingering.  To add to the intrigue, last year the committee intimated that had there been an undefeated team in the East, Mount Union wouldn't have been moved in.  Now, suppose that not only the ECFC champ is undefeated, but that there isn't another undefeated East team.  Could we possibly have a Norwich bracket?!?  The Norwich/SUNY-Maritime game on 10/30 could actually be for the top seed in the playoffs!

Unfortunately, it will probably happen someday soon (maybe this year even).  Like the year Curry ('08 I think) doesn't even make their conference championship game, yet gets a Pool C bid over the second place teams from the NJAC (Montclair), E8 (Hartwick), and LL (RPI).  This possible scenario would kill the East...imagine an East Bracket where we have Mount Union, Norwich, 2 teams from the NEFC (Curry as a Pool C and whoever wins the NEFC), and then only the league champions from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC.  It would be the worst bracket ever...

Hate to be the one to remind, but Curry did make it to the second round that year. Won't say how...

Does anyone know if the ECFC gets an automatic bid this year???

[Yanks 99]

Based on prior discussions we've had on ITH with the head(s) of the NCAA DIII Football Championship Committee, there is some precedent, if not preference to take a 10-0 team over a 9-1 team....

Sorry to bring this discussion back from the dead, but we're a week deeper into the season with the same question lingering.  To add to the intrigue, last year the committee intimated that had there been an undefeated team in the East, Mount Union wouldn't have been moved in.  Now, suppose that not only the ECFC champ is undefeated, but that there isn't another undefeated East team.  Could we possibly have a Norwich bracket?!?  The Norwich/SUNY-Maritime game on 10/30 could actually be for the top seed in the playoffs!

Unfortunately, it will probably happen someday soon (maybe this year even).  Like the year Curry ('08 I think) doesn't even make their conference championship game, yet gets a Pool C bid over the second place teams from the NJAC (Montclair), E8 (Hartwick), and LL (RPI).  This possible scenario would kill the East...imagine an East Bracket where we have Mount Union, Norwich, 2 teams from the NEFC (Curry as a Pool C and whoever wins the NEFC), and then only the league champions from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC.  It would be the worst bracket ever...

Hate to be the one to remind, but Curry did make it to the second round that year. Won't say how...

Didn't they also beat Team Boltus in the first round the year before? Or was it two years before?

They did...the year before...still doesn't discount the fact that Curry plays a high school JV schedule the entire year while the E8 reps kill each other all year long...

[sjfcards]

The hilarity of Norwich getting a #1 seed is too much for me to handle...

I am OK with a 10-0 Norwich team making the playoffs over a 9-1 E8 or LL team, much in the same way I am fine with an undefeated Boise State team getting a chance to play in the National Championship game. There should be a reward for winning all of your games, otherwise why does anyone play?

However, the idea of them being a #1 seed seems a bit much to me. The thought of sending a 1 loss IC/SJF/Hobart (especially if Hobart's 1 loss is to Fisher and they win the LL) to Norwich for a game is rediculous.

[Bombers798891]

My Week 4:

Wilkes 28 Pootica 13 - Can't use the SC game as bench mark. Triple option is really hard to stop especially when its the first time seeing it. A pee wee team could hang 50+ on Becker and Castleton.

That "Pee-Wee" team hung 42 on RPI last weekend. Wilkes, correct me if I'm wrong, also allowed 35 points and 452 yards to Waynesburg in Week 1. So I'm not exactly sold that Wilkes could stop anyone. Wilkes' offense didn't exactly look impressive putting up 190 yards last week either

[Pat Coleman]

Based on prior discussions we've had on ITH with the head(s) of the NCAA DIII Football Championship Committee, there is some precedent, if not preference to take a 10-0 team over a 9-1 team....

Sorry to bring this discussion back from the dead, but we're a week deeper into the season with the same question lingering.  To add to the intrigue, last year the committee intimated that had there been an undefeated team in the East, Mount Union wouldn't have been moved in.  Now, suppose that not only the ECFC champ is undefeated, but that there isn't another undefeated East team.  Could we possibly have a Norwich bracket?!?  The Norwich/SUNY-Maritime game on 10/30 could actually be for the top seed in the playoffs!

Unfortunately, it will probably happen someday soon (maybe this year even).  Like the year Curry ('08 I think) doesn't even make their conference championship game, yet gets a Pool C bid over the second place teams from the NJAC (Montclair), E8 (Hartwick), and LL (RPI).  This possible scenario would kill the East...imagine an East Bracket where we have Mount Union, Norwich, 2 teams from the NEFC (Curry as a Pool C and whoever wins the NEFC), and then only the league champions from the E8, LL, NJAC, and MAC.  It would be the worst bracket ever...

Hate to be the one to remind, but Curry did make it to the second round that year. Won't say how...

Does anyone know if the ECFC gets an automatic bid this year???

No, not this year, still in Pool B.

[theoriginalupstate]

They did...the year before...still doesn't discount the fact that Curry plays a high school JV schedule the entire year while the E8 reps kill each other all year long...

That has no bearing on the results of the Curry/Wick fiasco...

[Yanks 99]

They did...the year before...still doesn't discount the fact that Curry plays a high school JV schedule the entire year while the E8 reps kill each other all year long...

That has no bearing on the results of the Curry/Wick fiasco...

Curry being fresh from not playing anyone that year absolutely helped them.  We have never been deep, and had some guys really banged up for that game.  I am not even saying that we would have won that game if we were healthy, as almost everyone is dinged up during playoff time at the end of the year.  Curry is just usually less banged up.

[Bombers798891]

The hilarity of Norwich getting a #1 seed is too much for me to handle...

I am OK with a 10-0 Norwich team making the playoffs over a 9-1 E8 or LL team, much in the same way I am fine with an undefeated Boise State team getting a chance to play in the National Championship game. There should be a reward for winning all of your games, otherwise why does anyone play?

However, the idea of them being a #1 seed seems a bit much to me. The thought of sending a 1 loss IC/SJF/Hobart (especially if Hobart's 1 loss is to Fisher and they win the LL) to Norwich for a game is rediculous.

To a point, I am with you. But what bugs me about Norwich (and where they differ from Boise,) is that they didn't inherit a cruddy conference. They actively chose the path of least resistance by leaving the E8, and that irks me, especially when E8 teams who play in a better conference already are scheduling OOC games against Cortland, Union, RPI, Hobart, MUC.

Rewarding wins is fine, but what about rewarding scheduling efforts? To me, there's a ripple effect that goes on when you don't hold teams who play weak schedules accountable. What's the benefit for Union to play Ithaca, and Ithaca to play Cortland, or Fisher to play Hobart if they know they won't be rewarded for winning those games? Do we really want to encourage these teams to humiliate the Beckers of the world?

There's a balancing act to be sure. I didn't think a 7-3 Fisher team that lost to MUC and Salisbury OOC should have made it (Remember THAT year-long debate?). But I feel the same way about Norwich.

[theoriginalupstate]

They did...the year before...still doesn't discount the fact that Curry plays a high school JV schedule the entire year while the E8 reps kill each other all year long...

That has no bearing on the results of the Curry/Wick fiasco...

Curry being fresh from not playing anyone that year absolutely helped them.  We have never been deep, and had some guys really banged up for that game.  I am not even saying that we would have won that game if we were healthy, as almost everyone is dinged up during playoff time at the end of the year.  Curry is just usually less banged up.

Curry is usually less banged up??

So you have intimate knowledge of the injury report from Curry going into that game?

[Yanks 99]

They did...the year before...still doesn't discount the fact that Curry plays a high school JV schedule the entire year while the E8 reps kill each other all year long...

That has no bearing on the results of the Curry/Wick fiasco...

Curry being fresh from not playing anyone that year absolutely helped them.  We have never been deep, and had some guys really banged up for that game.  I am not even saying that we would have won that game if we were healthy, as almost everyone is dinged up during playoff time at the end of the year.  Curry is just usually less banged up.

Curry is usually less banged up??

So you have intimate knowledge of the injury report from Curry going into that game?

I don't know about "intimate"...I mean, I can't even really remember her name...