FB: Empire 8

[Jonny Utah]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

Remember when a posters kharma was used as a measuring stick to determine how much of an asshole you are?........Oh wait, it still is.

[theoriginalupstate]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

Remember when a posters kharma was used as a measuring stick to determine how much of an asshole you are?........Oh wait, it still is.

How did i get to triple digits then?

[Jonny Utah]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

Remember when a posters kharma was used as a measuring stick to determine how much of an asshole you are?........Oh wait, it still is.

How did i get to triple digits then?

Some posters karma levels reflect their IQ.

[Yanks 99]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

Remember when a posters kharma was used as a measuring stick to determine how much of an asshole you are?........Oh wait, it still is.

How did i get to triple digits then?

You have disguised yourself as "iamhuge" and have been +k yourself for the better part of over a year now...haven't you???  Sneaky bast@rd...

[SJFF82]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

Remember when a posters kharma was used as a measuring stick to determine how much of an asshole you are?........Oh wait, it still is.

awwww....did I piss an IC fan off once again....

[theoriginalupstate]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

Remember when a posters kharma was used as a measuring stick to determine how much of an asshole you are?........Oh wait, it still is.

How did i get to triple digits then?

You have disguised yourself as "iamhuge" and have been +k yourself for the better part of over a year now...haven't you???  Sneaky bast@rd...

If I ever develop his personality someone shoot me please...

[Jonny Utah]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

Remember when a posters kharma was used as a measuring stick to determine how much of an asshole you are?........Oh wait, it still is.

How did i get to triple digits then?

You have disguised yourself as "iamhuge" and have been +k yourself for the better part of over a year now...haven't you???  Sneaky bast@rd...

If I ever develop his personality someone shoot me please...

iamhuge is a good man.  This 'pallos' character is the new dolt of the post patterns world.

[Bombers798891]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

That was a good one +K.

Of course, our "irrelevant" would be what most teams consider to be "good seasons." So my question is, if IC at say, 7-3 is irrelevant, do Utica and the Wick even exist in the conference? Does Springfield come in and out like a case of the herp? What are the rules here for relevancy? 

[theoriginalupstate]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

That was a good one +K.

Of course, our "irrelevant" would be what most teams consider to be "good seasons." So my question is, if IC at say, 7-3 is irrelevant, do Utica and the Wick even exist in the conference? Does Springfield come in and out like a case of the herp? What are the rules here for relevancy? 

Thought provoking...

[Knightstalker]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

That was a good one +K.

Of course, our "irrelevant" would be what most teams consider to be "good seasons." So my question is, if IC at say, 7-3 is irrelevant, do Utica and the Wick even exist in the conference? Does Springfield come in and out like a case of the herp? What are the rules here for relevancy? 

Beating Dem Spicey Boyz in a playoff game?   

[maxpower]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

Remember when a posters kharma was used as a measuring stick to determine how much of an asshole you are?........Oh wait, it still is.

awwww....did I piss an IC fan off once again....

Careful Jonny, if you piss this guy off too much he throws a fit, quits PP, and has to come back under an assumed name before he can bring himself to post again...

[Bombers798891]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

That was a good one +K.

Of course, our "irrelevant" would be what most teams consider to be "good seasons." So my question is, if IC at say, 7-3 is irrelevant, do Utica and the Wick even exist in the conference? Does Springfield come in and out like a case of the herp? What are the rules here for relevancy? 

Beating Dem Spicey Boyz in a playoff game?   

Has ANYONE in the E8 done that?

[boobyhasgameyo]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

That was a good one +K.

Of course, our "irrelevant" would be what most teams consider to be "good seasons." So my question is, if IC at say, 7-3 is irrelevant, do Utica and the Wick even exist in the conference? Does Springfield come in and out like a case of the herp? What are the rules here for relevancy? 

Beating Dem Spicey Boyz in a playoff game?   

Has ANYONE in the E8 done that?

Yeah Fisher smashed them in the playoffs a couple years ago.

[Bombers798891]

Upstate -

I stated I could care less if it makes Ithaca look bad or not it is just misleading.  Did Ithaca really have -14 rushing in the typical sense of the word? No, they didn't, so why should the stats count that way? Quit choosing half the story to make yourself sound clever.

Yes, I agree they are misleading and yes obviously you do care how it makes Ithaca look to observers, otherwise you wouldn't have brought it up to begin with...

If you can't handle some slight ribbing you probably shouldn't be around...

Remember when Ithaca was relevant on the field and didnt have to debate age-old statistical categories to remain so....cmon IC posters, you and your program are better than this.

That was a good one +K.

Of course, our "irrelevant" would be what most teams consider to be "good seasons." So my question is, if IC at say, 7-3 is irrelevant, do Utica and the Wick even exist in the conference? Does Springfield come in and out like a case of the herp? What are the rules here for relevancy? 

Beating Dem Spicey Boyz in a playoff game?   

Has ANYONE in the E8 done that?

Yeah Fisher smashed them in the playoffs a couple years ago.

So I guess it's the E1 huh? 

[sjfcards]

dlip doesn't know if he fully agrees. There are a multitude of reasons as to why the East is where it is today. dlip is referring to eastern programs that have fallen off from being so-called "national" and even "regional" powers (ex. IC, Union). There are clearly two sides to the coin but dlip is at the point where he feels if the East wants any national respect we must do something about it. The stats game and comparisons have been being made for awhile. We simply need to get better if we hope to have the opportuntiy to compete for a national championship and some national respectablility. What worries dlip is the way things seem to be looking recently he doesn't know if the East will be back. Just some thoughts.

agreed the only way to get it back is to do it on the field....Period. Until somone from the east gets at least to the final 4 and in most eyes to the final game if not winning it, there won't be any thought given to any team being a true power. Yes there are local/regional powers  for example this year dvc/sjf but until someone kicks down the door and makes a run deep into the playoffs no love will be shown to the east

Tough to do when they keep sending MUC over to the East Bracket every year.  As I have stated in previous posts, whether or not we have a "true" East team represent us in the Final 4 is not a reasonable measure of how strong the region is.  Is the North Region stronger because they get a rep to the Final Four every year because MUC is in the East?  I will say it again...the East Region as a whole has exactly as many win against MUC in the past 11 years as the North Region and the South Region does...one each.

I would love to get the chance to prove the East is on a level playing field with other regions (outside of the perennial powers of MUC and UWW)...but because we always end up with MUC in our bracket, it is pretty tough to find out.

I don't know if I totally agree Yanks. In 2006, Fisher went to MUC in the final four and kept the game close down to the wire, however, the following year, MUC was brought into the East despite Fisher being a quality 1 loss team, and several other teams in the east being quality teams, including a 2 loss Ithaca team that made the playoffs and stuck with MUC for a half.

I think the problem is that everyone points to the East and says they are weak because MUC rolls to the finals every year through the east. However, if MUC did not play in the east, then we would send a team to the final four consistently. If MUC was put in the south every year, would we all say the south is weak because every team gets rolled by MUC?

I don't think the East is as strong overall as other conferences, but I don't think the dropoff is as great as some would have us believe. I think other regions may be elevated in several cases by the top teams in their region (MUC, UWW, and Wesley). But look at what those teams do to other teams in their own regions. The destroy them. I think the East is punished for not having that one really great team. I keep waiting for Fisher to turn into that team, but they don't seem to want to turn that corner.  I thought they were ready back in 2006, but they have come back to the pack since then.