FB: Empire 8

[sjfcards]

Here is a thought that I found interesting. I was looking at the schedule for Ithaca the rest of the way, and they do not have one easy game left on the schedule (Fisher, SC, Utica, AU, and Cortland). Is there any possibility of IC having a losing all of them? If they lose to either SC or Utica it could be a lot of trouble for IC.

It seems crazy to think that IC will implode down the stretch, and end up with a losing season, but I think you can make a case for them to lose each of those games.

[dewcrew88]

Very true.
I will say this, watch out for UC- they are going to take a big guy out this year no doubt.
AU IC?
Even missing a big weapon they were impressive.

Almost forgot- While at the game- the play that the refs said that there was a fumble out of the endzone resulting in a touchback---was he down by contact before the ball came out?

NO way to tell at the game....

From my spot in the stands, I don't think he was down. He was fighting for the end zone and the ball looked to be punched out.

[fisheralum91]

Dew- sorry we didnt connect.
got to tailgate and by the time we set it up and got settled i realized i for got the digits.
Your alma mater looked good.
Tho i have to ask....Ole ole ole ole and vuvuzelas?
I didnt think i was in south africa watching workd cup!

[boobyhasgameyo]

Here is a thought that I found interesting. I was looking at the schedule for Ithaca the rest of the way, and they do not have one easy game left on the schedule (Fisher, SC, Utica, AU, and Cortland). Is there any possibility of IC having a losing all of them? If they lose to either SC or Utica it could be a lot of trouble for IC.

It seems crazy to think that IC will implode down the stretch, and end up with a losing season, but I think you can make a case for them to lose each of those games.

Yeah there is no way Ithaca will lose the rest of their games...If I am wrong I will retire from the E8PP (I'll just go over to the LL and ask them to pass along messages to this board).  I'm not kidding I'll do it! 

[theoriginalupstate]

Here is a thought that I found interesting. I was looking at the schedule for Ithaca the rest of the way, and they do not have one easy game left on the schedule (Fisher, SC, Utica, AU, and Cortland). Is there any possibility of IC having a losing all of them? If they lose to either SC or Utica it could be a lot of trouble for IC.

It seems crazy to think that IC will implode down the stretch, and end up with a losing season, but I think you can make a case for them to lose each of those games.

Yeah there is no way Ithaca will lose the rest of their games...If I am wrong I will retire from the E8PP (I'll just go over to the LL and ask them to pass along messages to this board).  I'm not kidding I'll do it! 

You seriously need to post more often...

Hilarious +K...

[maxpower]

Here is a thought that I found interesting. I was looking at the schedule for Ithaca the rest of the way, and they do not have one easy game left on the schedule (Fisher, SC, Utica, AU, and Cortland). Is there any possibility of IC having a losing all of them? If they lose to either SC or Utica it could be a lot of trouble for IC.

It seems crazy to think that IC will implode down the stretch, and end up with a losing season, but I think you can make a case for them to lose each of those games.

Um okay dude, Ithaca may blow it occasionally, but I think you're a little off the deep end here. None of these games are easy, no, but Ithaca is no worse than they have been the past couple years, and there's not much evidence that anyone except Utica is that much better. All Ithaca has shown is that they tend to be too lax when they have a big lead; we know this because Ithaca has jumped out to so many big leads.

I hate predictions that are so out there that they make you look great if you're right, but if you're wrong you're not accountable because it was such a long shot. Why not point to one game and say "this is the one IC will definitely lose, and here's why." And you're not allowed to choose the Fisher game.

[Old IC Voice]

Here is a thought that I found interesting. I was looking at the schedule for Ithaca the rest of the way, and they do not have one easy game left on the schedule (Fisher, SC, Utica, AU, and Cortland). Is there any possibility of IC having a losing all of them? If they lose to either SC or Utica it could be a lot of trouble for IC.

It seems crazy to think that IC will implode down the stretch, and end up with a losing season, but I think you can make a case for them to lose each of those games.

I'm agreeing with max. No way IC loses each and every game. Will they be a playoff team? Maybe not. But 4-6? That's insane.

[sjfcards]

Here is a thought that I found interesting. I was looking at the schedule for Ithaca the rest of the way, and they do not have one easy game left on the schedule (Fisher, SC, Utica, AU, and Cortland). Is there any possibility of IC having a losing all of them? If they lose to either SC or Utica it could be a lot of trouble for IC.

It seems crazy to think that IC will implode down the stretch, and end up with a losing season, but I think you can make a case for them to lose each of those games.

Um okay dude, Ithaca may blow it occasionally, but I think you're a little off the deep end here. None of these games are easy, no, but Ithaca is no worse than they have been the past couple years, and there's not much evidence that anyone except Utica is that much better. All Ithaca has shown is that they tend to be too lax when they have a big lead; we know this because Ithaca has jumped out to so many big leads.

I hate predictions that are so out there that they make you look great if you're right, but if you're wrong you're not accountable because it was such a long shot. Why not point to one game and say "this is the one IC will definitely lose, and here's why." And you're not allowed to choose the Fisher game.

I didn't say I expect IC to lose the rest of their games, but I think you can make a case for an IC loss in each game. That is all I am saying.

Fisher is just better than IC this year, and I don't think anyone has predicted an IC win yet.

SC looks to be improved on defense, and has an offense that is difficult to prepare for. This game is at IC, so I think IC will win this one, but SC can give good teams trouble at times.

Utica is much improved from previous years and just played Fisher very tough. With IC not able to run the ball to keep the Utica offense on the sidelines, IC could lose in a shootout.

IMHO I think AU is a better team than IC, and the game is in Alfred.

Cortland is one of the better teams in the region, and may have a playoff spot on the line when they host IC.

I was more just posing the question as to how many games do people think IC will lose, but there are some compelling reasons to pick against IC having a great finish. I am not trying to make a crazy prediction just so I can say how smart I am in a few weeks.

[AUPepBand]

Pep was checking the box score for the Ithaca-Hartwick game and was surprised to see that the Hawks had exactly 0 yards rushing Saterday. Hartwick gained 59 yards rushing but also lost 59 yards rushing. While Pep is well aware of the Hawks' tendency to air it out, that stat was nevertheless interesting.

Looking to the Saxon-Hawk clash in the (bird)cage, Pep is wondering what time is kickoff? AU website says 1 p.m. Hartwick website says 2 p.m. D3football.com says 2 p.m.  Who's "Wright"?

[bomber3]

There usually is a webcast, the only one that there was some issues was Hobart when they wanted to charge you 6 bucks for the game....Sheesh- dont they get enough out of their tuition that they have to shake a few sheckles out of the rest of us?

That said- i would assume that there will be one especially since it is the first game back home since week one, its IC, and its alumni weekend!

Thanks for the info. +k

[bomber3]

Pep was checking the box score for the Ithaca-Hartwick game and was surprised to see that the Hawks had exactly 0 yards rushing Saterday. Hartwick gained 59 yards rushing but also lost 59 yards rushing. While Pep is well aware of the Hawks' tendency to air it out, that stat was nevertheless interesting.

Looking to the Saxon-Hawk clash in the (bird)cage, Pep is wondering what time is kickoff? AU website says 1 p.m. Hartwick website says 2 p.m. D3football.com says 2 p.m.  Who's "Wright"?

...and my comment that the way NCAA compiles rushing statistics comes back once again!  Hartwick was sacked a bunch of times so it skews the data.  OK I'm done with that subject.  Ithaca's pass rush looked great yesterday, which is a good sign heading into next week. They will need to get after Bailey and force him to make mistakes and get a few picks (Conti got another one this weekend and has 3 for the season). 

[maxpower]

Pep was checking the box score for the Ithaca-Hartwick game and was surprised to see that the Hawks had exactly 0 yards rushing Saterday. Hartwick gained 59 yards rushing but also lost 59 yards rushing. While Pep is well aware of the Hawks' tendency to air it out, that stat was nevertheless interesting.

Looking to the Saxon-Hawk clash in the (bird)cage, Pep is wondering what time is kickoff? AU website says 1 p.m. Hartwick website says 2 p.m. D3football.com says 2 p.m.  Who's "Wright"?

...and my comment that the way NCAA compiles rushing statistics comes back once again!  Hartwick was sacked a bunch of times so it skews the data.  OK I'm done with that subject.  Ithaca's pass rush looked great yesterday, which is a good sign heading into next week. They will need to get after Bailey and force him to make mistakes and get a few picks (Conti got another one this weekend and has 3 for the season). 

Conti's gotta get some pine tar for his gloves.... he dropped two others Saterday....

[AUPepBand]

Top 25 has been posted for Week 5 (although it says Week 4 as Pep types)
East Region teams include:
12. Delaware Valley
16. Montclair State
20. Fisher
21. Alfred
25. Cortland
Also getting votes: Springfield 4, Amherst 2.

But then, what does Pep care?  

[Old IC Voice]

I was more just posing the question as to how many games do people think IC will lose, but there are some compelling reasons to pick against IC having a great finish. I am not trying to make a crazy prediction just so I can say how smart I am in a few weeks.

I just can't see a way they go worse than 6-4, though. Springfield NEVER seems to play well at Butterfield, and the new 3-4 defense will make running the option MUCH tougher than it was last year. Alfred's gotten a game from an SLU team IC stomped, and allowed 24 points to a one-win team in Frostburg. Meanwhile, Utica will be a shootout, but I trust IC's defense more than Utica's.

With all due respect, you can make a case for almost any team to lose any given game. If I was to be concerned about a one-loss E8 team, it'd be Springfield, who doesn't have a quality win and lost to Alfred at home despite the Saxons making one of the longer road trips in the conference. The triple-option is tough to gameplan for, but when your biggest quality win is against King's, there's a red flag.

[Bombers798891]

Here is a thought that I found interesting. I was looking at the schedule for Ithaca the rest of the way, and they do not have one easy game left on the schedule (Fisher, SC, Utica, AU, and Cortland). Is there any possibility of IC having a losing all of them? If they lose to either SC or Utica it could be a lot of trouble for IC.

It seems crazy to think that IC will implode down the stretch, and end up with a losing season, but I think you can make a case for them to lose each of those games.

You could. You could make a case for them winning them all (except Fisher) too:

Utica: The next competitive game they play at IC will be their first

Springfield: Have you seen their last four games at Butterfield? Defense is much faster laterally as well, and Springfield can't exploit the pass defense, which is IC's weakness.

Cortland: We know their QB's going to be hurt, we just don't know when or how.

Alfred: Much like IC, have yet to play a full 60 minutes against a quality opponent.

4-6 is a stretch. 6-4 though? Not so much....