FB: Empire 8

[Bombers798891]

So I know we're off the radar, but the Springfield/IC game seems to be looming as one that could determine if the Bombers'  winning seasons streak is in real jeopardy.

It will be tough, but I think the Bombers win it. Their weakness is pass coverage, but they are solid against the run, and both corners are physical and able to help as well. Ithaca only allows 2.8 yards per rush, which is very good. The speed of their LB's will help, as will the extra week to prepare. Sadly, the weather is supposed to be good, but I still like Ithaca at home.

Bombers 27
Pride 17

[theoriginalupstate]

Teams are averaging 37 pass attempts vs SJF this year compared to 27 in 2006...

Teams have to air it out because of SJF's offense this year and yards are going to be given up eventually no matter how good you are...

True, but some of the underlying pass numbers aren't as good. In 2006, teams averaged 9.5 yards per attempt and 5.3 yards a completion. This season it's 11.8 and 6.6. Not massive difference, but noticable. In 260 attempts this season they've allowed 7 passing TD's compared to six in 391 in 2006. The flip side is a drastic increase in interceptions, which is an excellent sign.

Again, I think Fisher's an excellent team, but I do think the 2006 defense was better. But not being as good as the 2006 defense is hardly something that should be perceived as an insult. That team had five shutouts. They were flat out nasty. This one strikes me as "very good"

Yeah in no way am I saying that this D is as good as the 2006 final product, it's just not as bad as some think...

[theoriginalupstate]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

was is 24 to 14 late in the third in the SJF Hartwick game?  Before the five straight picks...

How many minutes is the game again? 43 or 60?

[labart96]

Another thing the 2006 team has going for it is that playoff run. We know how good they were because we watched them go deep into the playoffs. This years team may do the same but they also may lose this weekend and not make the playoffs. I guess what I am saying is that is to early to start comparing this team to 2006
I guess a better question is who has been more impressive through their first 7 games?

Looks about the same, but the 06 team had pitched 3 shutouts (Kings, Mt Ida and Norwich) and held two other teams to only 10 points (Roch and IC).  Their other wins over Brockport (4-6) and Wick (4-6) were kind of "eh"....

The 2010 team is scoring more points on offense, but also allowing more on D.

One notable difference was the 06 team dropped its 8th game (a 55-38 loss to Springfield), so it stands to reason if the 2010 team goes 8-0 they will be "better" at least in that sense...

[BoSox0322]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

was is 24 to 14 late in the third in the SJF Hartwick game?  Before the five straight picks...

How many minutes is the game again? 43 or 60?

theres 60...you would think you would know that following football for this long. it was a question i wasnt there... but dropping 41 with 8 picks i dont think that says much about their offense in my opinion says more about their D

[Bombers798891]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

was is 24 to 14 late in the third in the SJF Hartwick game?  Before the five straight picks...

How many minutes is the game again? 43 or 60?

theres 60...you would think you would know that following football for this long. it was a question i wasnt there... but dropping 41 with 8 picks i dont think that says much about their offense in my opinion says more about their D

Considering Fisher's "off" game offensively generated 41 points and 400+ yards, I think it says plenty. They're averaging 43 points and 480 yards a game. Exactly what more can an offense do?

[sjfcards]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

was is 24 to 14 late in the third in the SJF Hartwick game?  Before the five straight picks...

How many minutes is the game again? 43 or 60?

theres 60...you would think you would know that following football for this long. it was a question i wasnt there... but dropping 41 with 8 picks i dont think that says much about their offense in my opinion says more about their D

Considering Fisher's "off" game offensively generated 41 points and 400+ yards, I think it says plenty. They're averaging 43 points and 480 yards a game. Exactly what more can an offense do?

44 ppg and 481 yards?

[theoriginalupstate]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

was is 24 to 14 late in the third in the SJF Hartwick game?  Before the five straight picks...

How many minutes is the game again? 43 or 60?

theres 60...you would think you would know that following football for this long. it was a question i wasnt there... but dropping 41 with 8 picks i dont think that says much about their offense in my opinion says more about their D

Well then why bring up the score at the latter portion of 3rd quarter in a regular season game?  By that logic DVC should be looked down for only leading 23-18 over a 3-2 Wilkes team at the end of the 3rd...

[Bombers798891]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

was is 24 to 14 late in the third in the SJF Hartwick game?  Before the five straight picks...

How many minutes is the game again? 43 or 60?

theres 60...you would think you would know that following football for this long. it was a question i wasnt there... but dropping 41 with 8 picks i dont think that says much about their offense in my opinion says more about their D

Considering Fisher's "off" game offensively generated 41 points and 400+ yards, I think it says plenty. They're averaging 43 points and 480 yards a game. Exactly what more can an offense do?

44 ppg and 481 yards?

Zing!

[maxpower]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

All Fisher posters, especially you, FA, seem to want to simultaneously say two things about Ithaca:


1) Ithaca is no longer a measuring stick in the E8. WATCH OUT FOR UC OMG!!!!1

2) SJF is really good: look, we beat a team by more than Ithaca did!


MUST. PICK. ONE. I would really be fine with either.

[Bombers798891]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

All Fisher posters, especially you, FA, seem to want to simultaneously say two things about Ithaca:


1) Ithaca is no longer a measuring stick in the E8. WATCH OUT FOR UC OMG!!!!1

2) SJF is really good: look, we beat a team by more than Ithaca did!


MUST. PICK. ONE. I would really be fine with either.

The Wick score says more about IC than the Wick. IC left all kinds of points on the board in that game

[boobyhasgameyo]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

All Fisher posters, especially you, FA, seem to want to simultaneously say two things about Ithaca:


1) Ithaca is no longer a measuring stick in the E8. WATCH OUT FOR UC OMG!!!!1

2) SJF is really good: look, we beat a team by more than Ithaca did!


MUST. PICK. ONE. I would really be fine with either.

I think Utica is pretty good this year but I'm not saying they will be the Kings of the E8 from here on out.  Also why can't it be both?  Why can't Ithaca still be a measuring stick?  They are still a quality team that is fun to compare with, even if they aren't the dominant team in the league like when the E8 was initially formed. 

[maxpower]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

All Fisher posters, especially you, FA, seem to want to simultaneously say two things about Ithaca:


1) Ithaca is no longer a measuring stick in the E8. WATCH OUT FOR UC OMG!!!!1

2) SJF is really good: look, we beat a team by more than Ithaca did!


MUST. PICK. ONE. I would really be fine with either.

I think Utica is pretty good this year but I'm not saying they will be the Kings of the E8 from here on out.  Also why can't it be both?  Why can't Ithaca still be a measuring stick?  They are still a quality team that is fun to compare with, even if they aren't the dominant team in the league like when the E8 was initially formed. 

Come on booby I expect more from you! If Ithaca IS a measuring stick, then it ISN'T both!

[BoSox0322]

Sax 8
you are very right about more hype about this team.
i remember listening to a game very early this season---might have even been the bport game and i remember both Pete and Gene saying that (on paper) this was the most talented team in Fisher history and that 10- 0 is feasible.
Now that it is within grasp- this team is showing that it is living up to the hype.
I know Hartwick isnt great- but they gave IC fits and while the O seemed to "sputter" they still dropped 41 on em.

was is 24 to 14 late in the third in the SJF Hartwick game?  Before the five straight picks...

How many minutes is the game again? 43 or 60?

theres 60...you would think you would know that following football for this long. it was a question i wasnt there... but dropping 41 with 8 picks i dont think that says much about their offense in my opinion says more about their D

Well then why bring up the score at the latter portion of 3rd quarter in a regular season game?  By that logic DVC should be looked down for only leading 23-18 over a 3-2 Wilkes team at the end of the 3rd...

Only because it was said Hartwick gave IC fits... and for a good portion of the game I think the scores were simliar... thats all just thought it was a bad comparison

[boobyhasgameyo]

Right, I'm just saying while some people are implying that Ithaca is no longer the class of the league (and by extension not the measuring stick) it doesn't mean you still can't say look we did more to them than Ithaca...because Ithaca is still a good team.  But I get what you are saying how it can't officially be both.  Maybe the boobster isn't conveying his thoughts in a coherent fashion.