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[Bombers798891]

Interesting to note that Thomas Vossler now needs just 10 catches to become the school's all-time leader, which is amazing. Vossler's never really gotten the hype of the other WR's at the top of the list (Ceasay, Esposito, Welch) and has even been overshadowed by TE's (Like Ruffrage and Weverbergh) but barring an injury, it'll likely be his record at the end of the year. He's got 122, the record is 131.

Of course, if Ruffrage comes back, he's going to have a shot to break it next season. He's at 86, and should be right around the 100 mark by the end of the season.

It's interesting to me how many Bomber offensive records have been broken in the last 10 or so seasons. As good as those 80's-90's teams were, I would have thought someone would have put something out of reach. But the program's all-time leading rusher (technically), receiver and passer will have all played as recently as 2005.

[theoriginalupstate]

Interesting to note that Thomas Vossler now needs just 10 catches to become the school's all-time leader, which is amazing. Vossler's never really gotten the hype of the other WR's at the top of the list (Ceasay, Esposito, Welch) and has even been overshadowed by TE's (Like Ruffrage and Weverbergh) but barring an injury, it'll likely be his record at the end of the year. He's got 122, the record is 131.

Of course, if Ruffrage comes back, he's going to have a shot to break it next season. He's at 86, and should be right around the 100 mark by the end of the season.

It's interesting to me how many Bomber offensive records have been broken in the last 10 or so seasons. As good as those 80's-90's teams were, I would have thought someone would have put something out of reach. But the program's all-time leading rusher (technically), receiver and passer will have all played as recently as 2005.

Yeah I often hear about a player from Ithaca approaching a record and then see the record and say "that's all?"...

You would have figured someone would have had great numbers at a position with all those great teams that have come through Ithaca...

[Touch The Rock]

Vossler's quietly a stud, he's just got unbelievable hands.  

As far as the records go, keep in mind that those 70s-80s and some of the 90s teams ran the triple option.  So it doesn't shock me that the passing/receiving records are being set/broken in recent history.  

[AUKaz00]

Pep, when was the last time (probably never) AU beat Fisher and Ithaca in the same season?

I don't think Fisher was playing football the time before 2006 when Alfred beat Ithaca...

The last time AU beat Ithaca, before 2006, was 1995 when then 0-2 AU upset Ithaca 13-12 at Merrill Field. AU received a forfeit win over St. John Fisher the same year (although Fisher won 52-35 on the field). The Saxons also beat Ithaca in 1993, 30-20, but they didn't play Fisher that year.

Just for the record, the Saxons under Coach Alex Yunevich took five straight from the Bombers from 1951-1956; then two straight in 1981-1982 with Sam Sanders at the helm.

On Saxon Warriors!

I stand corrected.  I knew Ithaca took a break from beating Alfred for a couple years and thought that may have precluded Alfred from having played both Ithaca and Fisher pre-E8.  It's about time we win both those games without the benefit of a forfeit.

On Saxon Warriors!!!

[theoriginalupstate]

Vossler's quietly a stud, he's just got unbelievable hands.  

As far as the records go, keep in mind that those 70s-80s and some of the 90s teams ran the triple option.  So it doesn't shock me that the passing/receiving records are being set/broken in recent history.  

I realize that but even the rushing numbers aren't all that impressive for a program like Ithaca's...

[Bombers798891]

Vossler's quietly a stud, he's just got unbelievable hands.  

As far as the records go, keep in mind that those 70s-80s and some of the 90s teams ran the triple option.  So it doesn't shock me that the passing/receiving records are being set/broken in recent history.  

They actually ran the veer option, not the triple option. Half-credit though.  .

Had the NCAA counted playoff yards back then, Jeff Wittman would still own the rushing record I believe. Interestingly, Donovan would own the record if the NCAA never counted playoff yards, as his regular season totals bested Wittman's. As someone who takes a very literal view of records, I still have Wittman in front in my own mind, as he ran for the most yards in a Bomber uniform. I'm not sure if Nick Ismailoff would own the receptions record, but he'd be really close, as he had 42 in the NCAA's.

That's the tricky thing about records. Donovan's the school's all-time leading rusher and scorer, but no-one--himself included--would say he was the best RB in school history. I don't know if I'd consider Vossler to be the best WR in school history, although he'd be in the discussion. Felliceti's a no-brainer in my mind, so at least one of the three matches up.

[Bombers798891]

Vossler's quietly a stud, he's just got unbelievable hands.  

As far as the records go, keep in mind that those 70s-80s and some of the 90s teams ran the triple option.  So it doesn't shock me that the passing/receiving records are being set/broken in recent history.  

I realize that but even the rushing numbers aren't all that impressive for a program like Ithaca's...

One of the reasons for that, I believe, is that Butterfield didn't play freshman often. Also, the Bombers beat a lot of people badly in those days, so they weren't playing starters all the time. Wittman was a three-time first team All-American, but he wasn't getting 30-35 carries a game every week. I also think he broke his leg playing on Cornell's turf, but can't recall if he missed any time or if it came in his freshman season. His QB also took a lot of carries from him

[Touch The Rock]

Vossler's quietly a stud, he's just got unbelievable hands. 

As far as the records go, keep in mind that those 70s-80s and some of the 90s teams ran the triple option.  So it doesn't shock me that the passing/receiving records are being set/broken in recent history. 

They actually ran the veer option, not the triple option. Half-credit though.  .

Haha you're definitely on top of all things Bombers.  +k, figuratively of course.

[Bombers798891]

Vossler's quietly a stud, he's just got unbelievable hands. 

As far as the records go, keep in mind that those 70s-80s and some of the 90s teams ran the triple option.  So it doesn't shock me that the passing/receiving records are being set/broken in recent history. 

They actually ran the veer option, not the triple option. Half-credit though.  .

Haha you're definitely on top of all things Bombers.  +k, figuratively of course.

+K to you...my knowledge is deep, but largely useless haha...

[AlfredSaxon8]

Paladino

[SJFF82]

Paladino

is that a plug for Carl Paladino...if so...good work and tell your friends and your friends friends, etc to go out and vote next Tues....

[boobyhasgameyo]

Just found this link to an article on Bailey that was posted before the Hartwick game.  They do mention Fisher being undefeated and dominating teams in the video portion which does make me sad now given the events of Saturday.

http://www.13wham.com/content/sports/local/story/Best-Ever-Bailey-Makes-His-Case-at-St-John-Fisher/EGvNULxReUihfhNheoMCmQ.cspx

[AlfredSaxon8]

Paladino

is that a plug for Carl Paladino...if so...good work and tell your friends and your friends friends, etc to go out and vote next Tues....

Oh believe me, we are coming out strong on Tuesday... I'm in Erie County so the support here is incredible!

[SJFF82]

Now that the sting has worn off, I still can't believe the fly reverse pass by Thon...

That was the play of the game, it totally changed the momentum and deflated SJFs hopes...

It sent SJF a message that no matter what they did, AU had an answer and was two steps ahead of them

It was great timing on the play call and and excellent execution...

Fisher was utterly outcoached and outplayed...and that play merely summed it all up.  On the first couple drives, Secky pounded the home sideline with out routes and 'stop' passes.  It was obvious to at least one spectator (unfortunately not to any db's or coaches on SJF) that a wheel route or half-back pass was being set up for later in the game...and then it came and I watched in utter shock as the the same db got sucked in whom Secky was abusing all day on the out routes, and the pass soared down field...I said...and there you have at...ball game.

Minus some physical talent across the board, that AU team I saw play on Saterday is the type of team that could hang with a MUC squad ala SJF 2006.  AU came out of the lockerroom intense....man I saw 44 comeout of the McLain center so jacked up, I almost packed up my chips and salsa from the tailgate I was at and went home right then and there...and they took the field fired up and played with hatred for SJF...Your RB was a beast despite his lack of obvious physical stature....

If AU plays with that intensity for 60 minutes every week, I do not see them losing again until a few rounds in to the NCAA....at Alliance.

BTW...the Borum injury did not hurt our running game as much as it hurt our passing game having had to remove Kramer from the underneath passing scheme.  AU brought a ton of pressure on Bailey and disrupted many plays...on the flip side, I do not recall Secky even noticing that the SJF d line took the field on 99% of the AU drives....

[SJFF82]

Paladino

is that a plug for Carl Paladino...if so...good work and tell your friends and your friends friends, etc to go out and vote next Tues....

Oh believe me, we are coming out strong on Tuesday... I'm in Erie County so the support here is incredible!

good for you....hopefully NYers will wake up between now and Tuesday and realize that Cuomo is the same old double-talking politician that has been running and ruining America/NY for the past 30 years. 

....there are 2 parties in American politics....those that get a check from the government, and those that give one...Hopefully the ones that give a check show up on Tuesday.