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Frank Rossi

Quote from: sjfcards on October 08, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
Anyone have any insight on the Salisbury Springfield game? That looks like an impressive win for Salisbury.

Let me try:  Salisbury scored more touchdowns than Springfield.  Salisbury has a much better passing game lately than Springfield.  Thus, they could score in more ways.  Therefore, Salisbury won big.

SJFF82

Quote from: saxontad on October 07, 2011, 02:42:16 PM
My, you all are so sensitive today.  I must have inadvertently touched some nerve.  Interesting.

On Saxon Warriors!!

ahhh man...and I just got my Karma back to a manageable MINUS 20 (-20)....but here goes....You're a clown!!!

Fisher's offense is clearly in reverse this year, but the defense was not handed any favors by AU, it was simply stellar.  I suspect you got bigger worries by now though.....Wick handed you bums the game today    :-[

pg04

Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 08, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: sjfcards on October 08, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
Anyone have any insight on the Salisbury Springfield game? That looks like an impressive win for Salisbury.

Let me try:  Salisbury scored more touchdowns than Springfield.  Salisbury has a much better passing game lately than Springfield.  Thus, they could score in more ways.  Therefore, Salisbury won big.

This is why no one likes you  :P

SJFF82

Quote from: pg04 on October 08, 2011, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 08, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: sjfcards on October 08, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
Anyone have any insight on the Salisbury Springfield game? That looks like an impressive win for Salisbury.

Let me try:  Salisbury scored more touchdowns than Springfield.  Salisbury has a much better passing game lately than Springfield.  Thus, they could score in more ways.  Therefore, Salisbury won big.

This is why no one likes you  :P

who doesnt like a liar..i mean a lawyer?

Frank Rossi

Quote from: pg04 on October 08, 2011, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 08, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: sjfcards on October 08, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
Anyone have any insight on the Salisbury Springfield game? That looks like an impressive win for Salisbury.

Let me try:  Salisbury scored more touchdowns than Springfield.  Salisbury has a much better passing game lately than Springfield.  Thus, they could score in more ways.  Therefore, Salisbury won big.

This is why no one likes you  :P

You taught me SO well.

pg04

Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 08, 2011, 11:01:13 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 08, 2011, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 08, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: sjfcards on October 08, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
Anyone have any insight on the Salisbury Springfield game? That looks like an impressive win for Salisbury.

Let me try:  Salisbury scored more touchdowns than Springfield.  Salisbury has a much better passing game lately than Springfield.  Thus, they could score in more ways.  Therefore, Salisbury won big.

This is why no one likes you  :P

You taught me SO well.

Damn, that's a pretty good response. 

pg04

Quote from: SJFF82 on October 08, 2011, 10:57:38 PM
Quote from: pg04 on October 08, 2011, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 08, 2011, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: sjfcards on October 08, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
Anyone have any insight on the Salisbury Springfield game? That looks like an impressive win for Salisbury.

Let me try:  Salisbury scored more touchdowns than Springfield.  Salisbury has a much better passing game lately than Springfield.  Thus, they could score in more ways.  Therefore, Salisbury won big.

This is why no one likes you  :P

who doesnt like a liar..i mean a lawyer?

The two words are synonymous! 

Bombers798891

Well, a disappointing game for the Bombers, but hats off to the Cardinals' defense for another great game.

I just don't know what the Bombers can do. The quarterback play is nothing sort of a disaster, and they're still so weak on the offensive line, running in the red zone is next to pointless. There's no way around it: the offense is a joke. 11 INT's/5 TD's passing, and running backs averaging 3.1 yards a carry. Other than Ruffrage, no-one can make plays, and the play-calling reflects that. The Bombers had four red zone trips in the game, plus an OT possession, and almost never took a shot in the end zone. Hendel's a good athlete, and ran for 84 yards, but you can't win with three picks and no TD's. The Bombers have scored three second-half touchdowns on offense all season, and have now gone two games without a point in the second half offensively.

Here's what's odd though. Their opening drives have been really good the last three games.

Fisher: 13 plays, 64 yards, FG
Hartwick: 13 plays, 60 yards, TD
Union: 13 plays, 64 yards, TD

Even looking at that though, I'm amazed. 13 plays to go between 60-64 yards? Really?

The defense continues to do all the work. Three more turnovers, 13 points allowed. But the bottom line is, they can't win games single-handedly. They've forced 18 turnovers in five games and allowed only nine touchdowns. But there's no margin of error. On Fisher's lone touchdown, I thought IC would pick it off, but Conti took a horrible angle, and it got over his and White's heads. (Interestingly, on the next series, White was on the sidelines, and on the series after that, Conti was.)

So, all in all, I'm glad it was competitive finally, but it looks like this will be the Bombers' season. First team to 17 wins I guess. Good luck with that

Bombers798891

Quote from: bomber3 on October 08, 2011, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: sjfcards on October 08, 2011, 05:35:44 PM
Just back from Ithaca. A great game at the end. Ithaca was a tough out for sure. They moved the ball, but struggled to finish off drives. Big win for Fisher.
Props to Fisher.  It was a hard fought game with neither team giving much for the other team to work with.  Another game that came down to special teams, this one not falling the Bombers way.  Both of Rogo's kicks never had a shot once they got past the line; a block and a bad snap/placement that never gave the kick a chance.  Fisher's overtime field goal looked awful and seemed to have a homing device to get it over the goal post.  That was the difference.  Very disappointing overall as I felt Ithaca had a great shot to win the game.  The losses don't get easier the longer you're around, this one stings...

Go Bombers, good luck Fisher.

What did you think of the OT play-calling Bomber? I know Hendel had struggled going downfield, but IMO, at home, the first time you even have a CHANCE to get a win against Fisher since '05, and you play for the FG? Give me a break. That first-down run was an absolute waste of a down in my view. News flash Welch: Your running backs can not run the ball, because your offensive line is horrible. Seriously, how much more evidence do you need? Your running backs have 352 yards this season on 112 carries.

I so rarely call out coaches, because hey, they're smarter than me. But Welch playing that conservatively in the OT drove me nuts. Exactly what do you have to lose by taking a shot? It's not like you're running to set up the play-action.

drt

Utica gets a nice road win.  Scored when they had to, stopped RPI when they had to. 
Nice  balance on O, 35 passes, 35 runs.  Or something like that....

saxontad

Hey Pep.  Since you are located in Mayberry, you usually have info we mere mortals do not.  ;) What's up with Secky?  Is there something physically wrong?  Is his mental game off kilter? What? He has never thrown so many balls so poorly.

On Saxon Warriors!!

FisherAlum05

Hey people!  Its been awhile..Glad to see Fisher is pulling out the W's.  Just wondering how strong the E8 is this season?  Will we get 2 teams into the tournament? 
St. John Fisher College...King of the East

Frank Rossi

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Quote from: FisherAlum05 on October 09, 2011, 11:36:41 AM
Hey people!  Its been awhile..Glad to see Fisher is pulling out the W's.  Just wondering how strong the E8 is this season?  Will we get 2 teams into the tournament?

For the last four years, that's based less on perceived strength and more on W/L records and SoS numbers.  Just too early to tell, although the OOC records are a good start.

[EDIT: Right now, it looks like a somewhat low chance since Salisbury is the only undefeated left and Alfred and Fisher are the only two one-loss teams left.  Between those teams, there are still two games left to be played (Salisbury/Alfred and Salisbury/Fisher).  If Salisbury wins both, then there is a very low chance because there will be no one-loss Pool C eligible teams left.  It will come more down to whether there are six quality one-loss teams nationally in Pool C contention unless the Committee changes recent trends.  If Salisbury splits the games, then both Salisbury and the team that beats the Gulls would have to run the table.  The only other possibility is if a team like Frostburg somehow found its way to the top of the standings with Salisbury, Fisher or Alfred still at one loss -- yet, even that seems like an unlikely possibility based on current standings.  Overall, I'd peg a two-bid scenario at around 20%, but that could change significantly based on outcomes in the E8 and around the country.]

SJFF82

Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 09, 2011, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: FisherAlum05 on October 09, 2011, 11:36:41 AM
Hey people!  Its been awhile..Glad to see Fisher is pulling out the W's.  Just wondering how strong the E8 is this season?  Will we get 2 teams into the tournament?

For the last four years, that's based less on perceived strength and more on W/L records and SoS numbers.  Just too early to tell, although the OOC records are a good start.

[EDIT: Right now, it looks like a somewhat low chance since Salisbury is the only undefeated left and Alfred and Fisher are the only two one-loss teams left.  Between those teams, there are still two games left to be played (Salisbury/Alfred and Salisbury/Fisher).  If Salisbury wins both, then there is a very low chance because there will be no one-loss Pool C eligible teams left.  It will come more down to whether there are six quality one-loss teams nationally in Pool C contention unless the Committee changes recent trends.  If Salisbury splits the games, then both Salisbury and the team that beats the Gulls would have to run the table.  The only other possibility is if a team like Frostburg somehow found its way to the top of the standings with Salisbury, Fisher or Alfred still at one loss -- yet, even that seems like an unlikely possibility based on current standings.  Overall, I'd peg a two-bid scenario at around 20%, but that could change significantly based on outcomes in the E8 and around the country.]

Oh...well that makes your 20% very easy to wiggle out of... ;)

Frank Rossi

Quote from: SJFF82 on October 09, 2011, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 09, 2011, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: FisherAlum05 on October 09, 2011, 11:36:41 AM
Hey people!  Its been awhile..Glad to see Fisher is pulling out the W's.  Just wondering how strong the E8 is this season?  Will we get 2 teams into the tournament?

For the last four years, that's based less on perceived strength and more on W/L records and SoS numbers.  Just too early to tell, although the OOC records are a good start.

[EDIT: Right now, it looks like a somewhat low chance since Salisbury is the only undefeated left and Alfred and Fisher are the only two one-loss teams left.  Between those teams, there are still two games left to be played (Salisbury/Alfred and Salisbury/Fisher).  If Salisbury wins both, then there is a very low chance because there will be no one-loss Pool C eligible teams left.  It will come more down to whether there are six quality one-loss teams nationally in Pool C contention unless the Committee changes recent trends.  If Salisbury splits the games, then both Salisbury and the team that beats the Gulls would have to run the table.  The only other possibility is if a team like Frostburg somehow found its way to the top of the standings with Salisbury, Fisher or Alfred still at one loss -- yet, even that seems like an unlikely possibility based on current standings.  Overall, I'd peg a two-bid scenario at around 20%, but that could change significantly based on outcomes in the E8 and around the country.]

Oh...well that makes your 20% very easy to wiggle out of... ;)

Just being honest.  The two Salisbury games in question mean a lot here -- I basically put the odds of Salisbury sweeping those at 40% (leaving 60% odds of retaining two one-loss teams in the E8).  Then, the odds of the other scenarios collectively at 30/70 (including the idea of enough teams being at one loss for Pool C purposes nationally).  That knocked it down to below 20%.  That said, there is a small chance of the NCAA choosing a two-loss team over a one-loss team for Pool C.  That put it back to 20% for me.