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fisheralum91

KS
I wish you luck in your search.
My Director of Career Services reports to me and I am sure of the Placement rate.
While i give you a BA is highly important, an AOS or AOS is certainly a step in the right direction in career search.
10 - 15 dollars to start with after completeing an Associate Degree aint bad.
Happy New Year KS!

Knightstalker

Quote from: fisheralum91 on December 31, 2011, 07:35:00 PM
KS
I wish you luck in your search.
My Director of Career Services reports to me and I am sure of the Placement rate.
While i give you a BA is highly important, an AOS or AOS is certainly a step in the right direction in career search.
10 - 15 dollars to start with after completeing an Associate Degree aint bad.
Happy New Year KS!

I think we are talking about completely different things.  All I am talking about is the education required to even be considered for a job.  Jobs like bank teller used to require a hs diploma now most banks want a BA or BS to even consider someone for the job.  I know several of the tellers at my bank, either my brothers or I went to school with some of them, they all got their jobs right out of hs at this bank.  I know for a fact that the bank will not consider anyone for employment without a BA or BS.  The job really has not changed in decades, the only difference is the technology used and anyone coming out of hs with half a brain is capable of master the technology used by bank tellers.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

fisheralum91

KS,
I think we are on the same page, and I will agree to disagree.
It may be a regional thing, but here in Utica tellers  dont HAVE to have a BA or BS.
An AAS or AOS is appropriate.
Would someone with a BA be looked at first- Absolutely.
Is a BA equal to a HS diploma from years past....not in all cases.
I have years and years of data to prove it.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: dlip on December 30, 2011, 06:53:30 PM
Good conversatiom fellas. To dlip, his masters experience was more beneficial and challenging than his undergrad. Maybe part of the reason was because dlip was working fulltime while getting it, but still, it made dlip a better professional than he was before. KS seems like he is on to something. That undergrad degree just does not seem to carry close to the weight it once did.

Dlip you and I have one small difference but everything else is the same.  Let me do a quick edit:

Good conversatiom fellas. To JU, his undergrad experience was more beneficial and challenging than his grad. Maybe part of the reason was because JU was partying fulltime while getting it, but still, it made JU a better professional than he was before. KS seems like he is on to something. That undergrad degree just does not seem to carry close to the weight it once did.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: fisheralum91 on December 31, 2011, 07:51:20 PM
KS,
I think we are on the same page, and I will agree to disagree.
It may be a regional thing, but here in Utica tellers  dont HAVE to have a BA or BS.
An AAS or AOS is appropriate.
Would someone with a BA be looked at first- Absolutely.
Is a BA equal to a HS diploma from years past....not in all cases.
I have years and years of data to prove it.

You don't need a college degree to be a bank teller in Boston either, but I think the issue is that a college degree isn't as hard to get as it used to be so there are more college graduates out there.  So when a bank or other employeer gets a stack of resumes the ones with college degrees are going to be at the top and the people at the bottom of that pile aren't going to get a look when in fact they may be better for the job.

fisheralum91

Utes,
An employer may choose a grad with a lesser degree in order to save money as well.
Doesnt happen all the time- but it does happen.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: fisheralum91 on January 01, 2012, 10:19:39 AM
Utes,
An employer may choose a grad with a lesser degree in order to save money as well.
Doesnt happen all the time- but it does happen.

Sure but it is up to the employer to set their own salary scales too.  I do know a lot of school systems will try to save money by hiring new teachers at lower steps when there are retirements to balance budgets.  Basically a way to get around age discrimination in manynways

fisheralum91

Utes- You hit the nail on the head---Happy New Year to you and yours!

AUPepBand

Fisher fans may enjoy the following story on Tim Bailey, from the East Aurora Advertiser, Bailey's hometown newspaper:

http://www.eastaurorany.com/articles/2012/01/06/sports/doc4f04c35f8a98e943332051.txt

Seems he's landed a job as a QB in the Indoor Football League. Congrats!

On Saxon Warriors!
On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

SJFF82

Quote from: AUPepBand on January 06, 2012, 01:14:31 PM
Fisher fans may enjoy the following story on Tim Bailey, from the East Aurora Advertiser, Bailey's hometown newspaper:

http://www.eastaurorany.com/articles/2012/01/06/sports/doc4f04c35f8a98e943332051.txt

Seems he's landed a job as a QB in the Indoor Football League. Congrats!

On Saxon Warriors!

pretty cool...thanks Pep!  Happy New Year!


AUKaz00

Big development in Mayberry, with a high profile transfer coming in to take of the reins on offense for the Saxons.  Coach Murray has snagged none other than Matt Saracen whose credits from Dillon Tech and the Art Institute of Chicago will allow him to enter the BFA program as a Sophomore with four years of eligibility at the collegiate level!  The band is hopeful he'll enroll in the Art Education minor and complete his student teaching in the Fall of 2015 in order to lead Alfred for 4 years.

On Saxon Warriors!!! 
Check out the official card game of the AU Pep Band - Str8 Eight!

Upstate

Totally just googled "Matt Saracen" only to hang my head in disappointment and shame...
The views expressed in the above post do not represent the views of St. John Fisher College, their athletic department, their coaching staff or their players. I am an over zealous antagonist that does not have any current connection to the institution I attended.

AUKaz00

Quote from: Upstate on January 11, 2012, 03:06:09 PM
Totally just googled "Matt Saracen" only to hang my head in disappointment and shame...

That'll be the exact reaction by the Fisher secondary when Seven picks them apart at Merrill next year!  Mrs. Kaz00 is exited; she's having Julie Taylor-Saracen over to scrapbook next saterday.
Check out the official card game of the AU Pep Band - Str8 Eight!

AUPepBand

Quote from: AUKaz00 on January 11, 2012, 03:45:49 PM
Quote from: Upstate on January 11, 2012, 03:06:09 PM
Totally just googled "Matt Saracen" only to hang my head in disappointment and shame...

That'll be the exact reaction by the Fisher secondary when Seven picks them apart at Merrill next year!  Mrs. Kaz00 is exited; she's having Julie Taylor-Saracen over to scrapbook next saterday.

Nice that the #7 will be available as Alec Currier graduates. And leave it to Mrs. Kaz00 to extend that warm and friendly Mayberry hospitality. +K!

On Saxon Warriors!

On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

Upstate

#43154
A little shake up in the SJF coaching staff is about to take place.

Their offensive Coordinator, Dave Parks, is resigning and taking a regional director's position with the FCA and will be replaced by former QB Rob Kramer.

The combined age of Fisher's OC & DC are 58 years old.

A youth movement if I ever saw one.

It will be interesting to see if Kramer goes to a more conventional offense that he was very successful or continue with the offense Parks had the past few years.
The views expressed in the above post do not represent the views of St. John Fisher College, their athletic department, their coaching staff or their players. I am an over zealous antagonist that does not have any current connection to the institution I attended.