FB: Empire 8

[AlfredSaxon8]

The E8 sched still gives me some uneasy feelings, but i am really looking forward to the games to come!
Buff State, and Alfred in particular!

Buff St is the one game that I'm not looking forward too...

yes I'm looking forward to Buff St. coming to WW.. should be interesting

Nah it won't be anymore interesting than any other 35+ point drubbing Whitewater puts on teams outside of their conference (and in most cases in their own conference as well).

Hey Booby - nice "loser" attitude.  Buff State offense is good and its passing game will be a challenge for UWW defense. Maybe Booby would be better suited to becoming a fan of the Knitting Channel.

Not going to lie, I have to agree with Booby on this one    Buff State's offense was dominant, yes... against Cortland.  It's not going to happen against WW.  NOTHING against the Buff State QB, he's good.  Probably could be a contender for E8 player of the year if they make a run.  But I have doubt that many of the Cortland players would be starting on the WW defense, which means the competition will be not just better, it will be on a completely different level.     

[voice]

The E8 sched still gives me some uneasy feelings, but i am really looking forward to the games to come!
Buff State, and Alfred in particular!

Buff St is the one game that I'm not looking forward too...

yes I'm looking forward to Buff St. coming to WW.. should be interesting

Nah it won't be anymore interesting than any other 35+ point drubbing Whitewater puts on teams outside of their conference (and in most cases in their own conference as well).

Hey Booby - nice "loser" attitude.  Buff State offense is good and its passing game will be a challenge for UWW defense. Maybe Booby would be better suited to becoming a fan of the Knitting Channel.

It's reality, even though Buff St had a hot start Saturday there's no way in hell they're winning at UWW.  I don't care how much they improved from last year, though it is tough to gauge how much they improved just off one game, it's just not happening.  I give them all the credit in the world for taking them head on though.  It will be interesting if their passing attack can continue to be effective throughout the year.

Maybe this "we're not good enough" attitude vs. the UWWs and UMCs is one of the reasons the NCAA has moved Mount Union into the East Region the past several years.  Heck, UWW could have thrown in the towel after losting to Mount Union the first four times the two teams played each other.Postive strokes for positve folks! Think positive my East Region (E8) friends! 

[Upstate]

The E8 sched still gives me some uneasy feelings, but i am really looking forward to the games to come!
Buff State, and Alfred in particular!

Buff St is the one game that I'm not looking forward too...

yes I'm looking forward to Buff St. coming to WW.. should be interesting

Nah it won't be anymore interesting than any other 35+ point drubbing Whitewater puts on teams outside of their conference (and in most cases in their own conference as well).

Hey Booby - nice "loser" attitude.  Buff State offense is good and its passing game will be a challenge for UWW defense. Maybe Booby would be better suited to becoming a fan of the Knitting Channel.

It's reality, even though Buff St had a hot start Saturday there's no way in hell they're winning at UWW.  I don't care how much they improved from last year, though it is tough to gauge how much they improved just off one game, it's just not happening.  I give them all the credit in the world for taking them head on though.  It will be interesting if their passing attack can continue to be effective throughout the year.

Maybe this "we're not good enough" attitude vs. the UWWs and UMCs is one of the reasons the NCAA has moved Mount Union into the East Region the past several years.  Heck, UWW could have thrown in the towel after losting to Mount Union the first four times the two teams played each other.Postive strokes for positve folks! Think positive my East Region (E8) friends!

Attitudes displayed on any region of the D3boards.com world has ZERO effects on the results of the games played. 

ZERO.

I and every poster on here can think the Bengals are going to go out and take out UWW.  However there is a 99% chance Buff St gets their heads kicked in, nothing we think on these boards will change those percentages.  Buff St players will go out there with a different attitude, because if you don't believe you will win every week, you never will.   Last time I checked there weren't any Buff St players posting on here though.

[pg04]

The E8 sched still gives me some uneasy feelings, but i am really looking forward to the games to come!
Buff State, and Alfred in particular!

Buff St is the one game that I'm not looking forward too...

yes I'm looking forward to Buff St. coming to WW.. should be interesting

Nah it won't be anymore interesting than any other 35+ point drubbing Whitewater puts on teams outside of their conference (and in most cases in their own conference as well).

Hey Booby - nice "loser" attitude.  Buff State offense is good and its passing game will be a challenge for UWW defense. Maybe Booby would be better suited to becoming a fan of the Knitting Channel.

It's reality, even though Buff St had a hot start Saturday there's no way in hell they're winning at UWW.  I don't care how much they improved from last year, though it is tough to gauge how much they improved just off one game, it's just not happening.  I give them all the credit in the world for taking them head on though.  It will be interesting if their passing attack can continue to be effective throughout the year.

Maybe this "we're not good enough" attitude vs. the UWWs and UMCs is one of the reasons the NCAA has moved Mount Union into the East Region the past several years.  Heck, UWW could have thrown in the towel after losting to Mount Union the first four times the two teams played each other.Postive strokes for positve folks! Think positive my East Region (E8) friends!

Realistic or not, I kind of agree that it is a loser attitude. Hopefully the Bengals aren't so pessimistic!

They play Brockport this week (and unlike one poster mentioned, probably based on last year's record, they are not as "weak" after beating Lycoming), if Buff State can blow them out of the water, I will be interested to see their offense against UWW.

[AlfredSaxon8]

The E8 sched still gives me some uneasy feelings, but i am really looking forward to the games to come!
Buff State, and Alfred in particular!

Buff St is the one game that I'm not looking forward too...

yes I'm looking forward to Buff St. coming to WW.. should be interesting

Nah it won't be anymore interesting than any other 35+ point drubbing Whitewater puts on teams outside of their conference (and in most cases in their own conference as well).

Hey Booby - nice "loser" attitude.  Buff State offense is good and its passing game will be a challenge for UWW defense. Maybe Booby would be better suited to becoming a fan of the Knitting Channel.

It's reality, even though Buff St had a hot start Saturday there's no way in hell they're winning at UWW.  I don't care how much they improved from last year, though it is tough to gauge how much they improved just off one game, it's just not happening.  I give them all the credit in the world for taking them head on though.  It will be interesting if their passing attack can continue to be effective throughout the year.

Maybe this "we're not good enough" attitude vs. the UWWs and UMCs is one of the reasons the NCAA has moved Mount Union into the East Region the past several years.  Heck, UWW could have thrown in the towel after losting to Mount Union the first four times the two teams played each other.Postive strokes for positve folks! Think positive my East Region (E8) friends!

Realistic or not, I kind of agree that it is a loser attitude. Hopefully the Bengals aren't so pessimistic!

They play Brockport this week (and unlike one poster mentioned, probably based on last year's record, they are not as "weak" after beating Lycoming), if Buff State can blow them out of the water, I will be interested to see their offense against UWW.

I think there's a huge difference between a "loser attitude" and having an opinion. Booby's is an opinion.   

And to be honest, his opinion (I'm assuming), isn't that he thinks Buff State isn't good, its that WW is on a different level than a lot of competition most teams will face this season or in the playoffs.  He's essentially giving props to WW for dominating teams both in and out of their conference and it's all of a sudden a "loser attitude"...? 

Was he complaining about how much WW beats teams by? No.  Was he crying that it's not fair teams have to play them? No.

He simply stated an opinion, supported by fact, and everyone jumped down his throat.  Relax people.  In the E8 forum, people can respectfully disagree without essentially resorting to name calling.  Leave those kind of posts to the other forums kubiack.

And hypothetically speaking of course, what if Buff State does get hammered by WW... Is it still a "loser attitude"? 

[SJFF82]

Now that we beat St. Thomas, do we get to move onto Final Four?

[SJFF82]

boy, I 'leave' for a few months and come back to discover I cannot bash the current Presidential administration or their politics anymore...man what did JT do...or did the call come from Pres. Sec Gibbs to PC to shut it down during election season? 

[AlfredSaxon8]

boy, I 'leave' for a few months and come back to discover I cannot bash the current Presidential administration or their politics anymore...man what did JT do...or did the call come from Pres. Sec Gibbs to PC to shut it down during election season? 

Big brother is watching you.

[Bombers798891]

Yeah, I don't understand all the hating for thinking Buff State's probably going to lose big. Are people not supposed to state what they believe, especially when it's based on evidence? How many years do we read playoff capsules that say in the "How far can they go?" category "To Alliance and back" Well, Whitewater's on that level too, and have been for years. The team's won 96 of it's last 97 games against non-Mount D-III opponents. Until someone beats them, what should we think?

As far as positive thinking goes...we're fans. Who cares if we're positive or negative, as long as we're backing up what we believe with evidence and not hurling insults at specific players? Was Ithaca's record against Fisher these last six years going to be any different if I had been some Bombers homer predicting them to win each year? I'd rather have a board filled with people who were realistic and objective (as objective as one can be, anyway) than people who just drank the team kool-aid.

I've seen first hand how Jerry Boyes gets the most from his teams. Buff State was Ithaca's Fisher before there was Fisher. I didn't think they;d beat Cortland, but I thought they were underrated. Nonwithstanding all that, Whitewater by four touchdowns

[pg04]

My disagreement was not with the opinion that Buffalo State will probably not win the game, but the general tone from the original posts that, well Buffalo state might as well not play the game, and UWW doesn't have to worry about preparing at all.

[Jonny Utah]

UWW 97
Buff State -3

[pg04]

Well the game isn't even this week, but I will make another point that will again get me bashed.

Bombers, you say you'd like objective rather than homer fans, and I agree with you. However, if Fisher were playing UWW or MUC, and some of these comments were made, some of these same notoriously defensive fisher fans would come out arguing that their team had a chance, even though the numbers against OOC opponents show otherwise.

[Upstate]

Well the game isn't even this week, but I will make another point that will again get me bashed.

Bombers, you say you'd like objective rather than homer fans, and I agree with you. However, if Fisher were playing UWW or MUC, and some of these comments were made, some of these same notoriously defensive fisher fans would come out arguing that their team had a chance, even though the numbers against OOC opponents show otherwise.

The only team I thought had a chance was 06 when they were coming off the shut out of Rowan. Every other match up I thought they'd get their butts handed to them, which they did. 

People on here were saying Fisher was nuts to schedule the home and home with them but respected them having the balls to schedule them.  I feel the same way about Buff St., sure they'll more likely get run off the field but in the long run they'll be a better program because of it. 

[boobyhasgameyo]

Well the game isn't even this week, but I will make another point that will again get me bashed.

Bombers, you say you'd like objective rather than homer fans, and I agree with you. However, if Fisher were playing UWW or MUC, and some of these comments were made, some of these same notoriously defensive fisher fans would come out arguing that their team had a chance, even though the numbers against OOC opponents show otherwise.

Different levels and bodies of work at that point though wouldn't you agree?  Buffalo State with one week's worth of work and very suspect the past decade versus when Fisher takes on those teams in the playoffs after there is an entire year of seeing what they've been doing and knowing what they are about.  Fisher has been on another level than Buffalo State.  On Buffalo States best day they could beat Fisher but it would have to take their best day.  Similarly the Mount Unions are on another level than Fisher.  A lot of us believed on our best day we could most certainly hang with them.  I think you are using comparisons sloppily there.  Overcomplicating simple concepts. 

Going all the way back to what AlfredSaxon08 said - that was exactly what I was getting at.  People on here are getting a little bit emotional over this...I mean I showed the teams and I showed the margin of victory (and PG feel free to tell me how many of the teams I listed from OOC you feel are on Fisher's level and how many are on Buff State's)...saying Buffalo State will most likely fall in line as the rest of them wasn't supposed to incite a riot.  I certainly hope they keep it close, that would be great for a lot of reasons.  I don't expect it though. 

[dlippiel]

Dlip thinks this "loser attitude" talk is redonkulous. All some of us are saying is that to us, when being realistic, we feel Buffalo State is a clear underdog when going out to play the big Dub Dub. Dlip thinks the Dub Dub deserves a tad bit of respect for their body of work over  the past seven years. Hence, we are not going to blow smoke about a team that we all want to win, but we feel just is not on the level of U Dub. Dlip chooses not to insult a program like the Dub2 by acting like "Charles" and making outlandish comments. Dlip loves the east region, probably more than is healthy, yet he refuses to talk any serious unrealistic **** about any game that would make our regions players and/or posters look like idiots. Let's go Bengals!