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Bartman

Intelligence for Ithaca fans.......Hobart has included the "unintended" fake field goal play for Saturday's game...since they will so obviously need such trickery to beat the actual E8 champ this year  ;D
By the way the Hobart defense this year is comparable to the 2012 team.... and Tyre has been resting for the playoffs. If the offense still had Webb, it would be better than last year, but run by committee combo has worked well and Shane Conlan's(Shane is at every game) kid, Patrick has matured now as a second year QB  starter and has command of the team. Ithaca should not be over confident based on the Fisher score last year, this team was embarrassed and wants to erase that loss from last year ,but Fisher is not in , so Ithaca will have to do. It should be a great game, with the winner having a decent path to Wesley.
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Upstate

Naton has been hurt for a few weeks, I think vs Alfred St, and that's why you saw Catan come in yesterday...

I hope Fenti and Nigolian can have a shot to finish their careers on the field next week though...
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fisheralum91

Lets hope that the boys heal....go out with a bang!

Bombers798891

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Ithaca-Hobart. A good game, but Ithaca has a better chance at a win than I thought.

I don't think Ithaca will get to 200 yards of total offense in that game. Thats my bold prediction.

They barely cracked 200yds vs Fisher and won by 11...

Hobarts offense isn't in the same league as Fishers...

24-13 Ithaca...



They cracked 340 against Cortland and lost. Not to many times does a team barely crack 200 and win.

Hobart 27-10

My point was not that ithaca will win. Simply that, given that the team went 7-3 and could have played mount or Wesley, that Hobart is more winnable than those two

wesleydad

when comparing Muhlenberg to Framingham, if you look at the RR losses Muhlenberg lost to a much better team.  Hopkins would crush Rowan IMO.  I expect to see Hopkins in Dover in a couple of weeks.

Upstate

Sorry but the CC isn't really impressive...

At all...
The views expressed in the above post do not represent the views of St. John Fisher College, their athletic department, their coaching staff or their players. I am an over zealous antagonist that does not have any current connection to the institution I attended.

middlerelief

Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:44:17 PM
when comparing Muhlenberg to Framingham, if you look at the RR losses Muhlenberg lost to a much better team.  Hopkins would crush Rowan IMO.  I expect to see Hopkins in Dover in a couple of weeks.

Last year's game between Wes and Hopkins was pretty good.

Last few seasons have been tough for JHU in the playoffs.    Different team different season - but in regards to Hopkins crushing Rowan -- didn't Rowan beat Wesley last year??  Not sure how many returners for the Profs so we'll see how it goes, NJAC is solid conference, would not expect Rowan or anyone from that conference to be a push over -- it'll be a test for Hopkins.

wesleydad

Quote from: middlerelief on November 16, 2014, 08:55:31 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:44:17 PM
when comparing Muhlenberg to Framingham, if you look at the RR losses Muhlenberg lost to a much better team.  Hopkins would crush Rowan IMO.  I expect to see Hopkins in Dover in a couple of weeks.

Last year's game between Wes and Hopkins was pretty good.

Last few seasons have been tough for JHU in the playoffs.    Different team different season - but in regards to Hopkins crushing Rowan -- didn't Rowan beat Wesley last year??  Not sure how many returners for the Profs so we'll see how it goes, NJAC is solid conference, would not expect Rowan or anyone from that conference to be a push over -- it'll be a test for Hopkins.

Middle, yes rowan did beat Wesley last year.  When they played this year Rowan got their first first down half way through the 3rd quarter.  They are not good on offense.  The Defense may keep them in the game, but they beat UCNJ this past week 14 - 6.  Wesley was lucky to beat Hopkins last year.  Hopkins lost some D players this year, but have not skipped a beat. 

rams1102

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Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 09:00:32 PM
Quote from: middlerelief on November 16, 2014, 08:55:31 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 08:44:17 PM
when comparing Muhlenberg to Framingham, if you look at the RR losses Muhlenberg lost to a much better team.  Hopkins would crush Rowan IMO.  I expect to see Hopkins in Dover in a couple of weeks.

Last year's game between Wes and Hopkins was pretty good.

Last few seasons have been tough for JHU in the playoffs.    Different team different season - but in regards to Hopkins crushing Rowan -- didn't Rowan beat Wesley last year??  Not sure how many returners for the Profs so we'lsee how it goes, NJAC is solid conference, would not expect Rowan or anyone from that conference to be a pushover -- it'll be a test for Hopkin

Middle, yes rowan did beat Wesley last year.  When they played this year Rowan got their first first down half way through the 3rd quarter.  They are not good on offense.  The Defense may keep them in the game, but they beat UCNJ this past week 14 - 6.  Wesley was lucky to beat Hopkins last year.  Hopkins lost some D players this year, but have not skipped a beat.

I would be more comfortable with M-Ville against Hopkins.








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boobyhasgameyo

Man oh man.  Poor Linfield and Mary Hardin Baylor having to play each other in the 2nd round.  Whichever team makes it out of that game is going to smmmmmmmmmmash whoever they face in the 3rd round, which will likely be a MAC team. 

Wesley is going to snore through their first two rounds at least and may not need to wake up in the 3rd round either.  They must be happy. 

Ithaca was not impressive offensively, and while their defense is good, I think Hobart won't shoot themselves in the foot nearly as much as Fisher did.  Me thinks Hobart will win something like 28-14.  Although I am pulling for the E8.  If the conference continues to make strong showings in the playoffs it will help Fisher when they inevitably lose games they have no business losing and thrown into the pool C fray. 

Lastly, I would be happy to see a Fisher vs Fram game.  I really hope Nigolian at the very least would be able to play.  And also, a home game would be nice. 

wesleydad

Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on November 16, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Man oh man.  Poor Linfield and Mary Hardin Baylor having to play each other in the 2nd round.  Whichever team makes it out of that game is going to smmmmmmmmmmash whoever they face in the 3rd round, which will likely be a MAC team. 

Wesley is going to snore through their first two rounds at least and may not need to wake up in the 3rd round either.  They must be happy. 

Ithaca was not impressive offensively, and while their defense is good, I think Hobart won't shoot themselves in the foot nearly as much as Fisher did.  Me thinks Hobart will win something like 28-14.  Although I am pulling for the E8.  If the conference continues to make strong showings in the playoffs it will help Fisher when they inevitably lose games they have no business losing and thrown into the pool C fray. 

Lastly, I would be happy to see a Fisher vs Fram game.  I really hope Nigolian at the very least would be able to play.  And also, a home game would be nice.

Booby, this is what I looked like when I saw the bracket.  :D

boobyhasgameyo

Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on November 16, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Man oh man.  Poor Linfield and Mary Hardin Baylor having to play each other in the 2nd round.  Whichever team makes it out of that game is going to smmmmmmmmmmash whoever they face in the 3rd round, which will likely be a MAC team. 

Wesley is going to snore through their first two rounds at least and may not need to wake up in the 3rd round either.  They must be happy. 

Ithaca was not impressive offensively, and while their defense is good, I think Hobart won't shoot themselves in the foot nearly as much as Fisher did.  Me thinks Hobart will win something like 28-14.  Although I am pulling for the E8.  If the conference continues to make strong showings in the playoffs it will help Fisher when they inevitably lose games they have no business losing and thrown into the pool C fray. 

Lastly, I would be happy to see a Fisher vs Fram game.  I really hope Nigolian at the very least would be able to play.  And also, a home game would be nice.

Booby, this is what I looked like when I saw the bracket.  :D

Ha, nice.  Although I will say - come that 4th game it will be a jarring jolt back into high quality football.  Wesley might be sluggish if they aren't tested for nearly a month. 

wesleydad

Until Saturday's loss they have not been tested much all year.  The first game with Thomas More was sort of competitive but never in doubt.  The rest of the games have been over pretty early.  I agree, it would be nice to play a game that is in doubt in the second half before you get Mount or John Carroll who I think win that bracket.

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on November 16, 2014, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 16, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on November 16, 2014, 09:11:56 PM
Man oh man.  Poor Linfield and Mary Hardin Baylor having to play each other in the 2nd round.  Whichever team makes it out of that game is going to smmmmmmmmmmash whoever they face in the 3rd round, which will likely be a MAC team. 

Wesley is going to snore through their first two rounds at least and may not need to wake up in the 3rd round either.  They must be happy. 

Ithaca was not impressive offensively, and while their defense is good, I think Hobart won't shoot themselves in the foot nearly as much as Fisher did.  Me thinks Hobart will win something like 28-14.  Although I am pulling for the E8.  If the conference continues to make strong showings in the playoffs it will help Fisher when they inevitably lose games they have no business losing and thrown into the pool C fray. 

Lastly, I would be happy to see a Fisher vs Fram game.  I really hope Nigolian at the very least would be able to play.  And also, a home game would be nice.

Booby, this is what I looked like when I saw the bracket.  :D

Ha, nice.  Although I will say - come that 4th game it will be a jarring jolt back into high quality football.  Wesley might be sluggish if they aren't tested for nearly a month.

Booby - I would take a wild stab and say that the winner of the Linfield vs. UMHB would smmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaash either Ithaca or Hobart in a round three game as well ;)

I believe that Muhlenberg and Fisher had a common opponent in Salisbury and both lost by close to the same margin (don't have it in front of me)

Once again, we have our Eastern powerhouse..................courtesy of our friends just south of Philadelphia...................Wesley. They will do the region proud ;D

jknezek

Muhlenberg did not play Salisbury. The CC is a 10 team conference. Muhlenberg's only OOC was Wilkes.