FB: Empire 8

[theoriginalupstate]

Not bashing Vosburgh, just hoping that they will let robinson do his thing

In the past the SJF offense was a two headed monster with Robby and Noah.  They could let Robby carry it alot because if they hardly got to see the 8th man in the box because of Noah going deep.  Also if they ever got into 3rd and long situations they could just throw to Noah at any time. 

This year the O has to be more balanced to keep from teams stacking the box vs Robby and Reile.  Thats why you see more of the TE this year than in the past.

[sjfcards]

Many thanks upstate...I am starting to feel good about this weekend
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[The Truth 00]

i think what's been lost in the midst of all this talk about robinson getting enough carries is the play of the qb kramer. that kid stepped in and did a pretty good job. is he better than past sjf qbs that were getting the ball to fehrenbach?

upstate - mail time!

[superman57]

He is good but a think that all of the SJFC qb's a more a product of the system... Suchyna, was real good last year till the Alfred game when he started playing horbily,

[maxpower]

anyone know anything about the Union Defense...I hear a lot about the offense.

How are they at stopping the Run? Will Robinson have a day on saturday?

How is the Pass defense?

I know nothing about them, but I will give the nod to Fisher on D, because Hey, I went there.

I know they run a 3-4, and some of the Union faithful say its a bland 3-4.  SJF will tear it apart if Union doesnt do something crazy.  SJF's O-line averages 285lbs and Union's D has one player above 250lbs, also the athleticism of SJF's O-line wont be effected by Union's smaller players (in case anyone uses that the smaller guys can run around the bigger guys line). 

SJF will use their outside zone a ton this week and look for robby to find the cutback lanes if Union stays in the 3-4....

SJF faced the 3-4 at least twice this season in Ithaca and SC and tore it up both times. Granted, Ithaca was without Blumenauer and Stephens and had a great first half, and SC's defense is basically swiss cheese, but it's nothing Robinson hasn't seen before.

[superman57]

I think that this game here has the makings of a real good game...  Both teams are similar, will be up to the defenses to win the game

[maxpower]

Positive Karma for the first time since pre-Cortaca week! Life is good. On to basketball.

[theoriginalupstate]

i think what's been lost in the midst of all this talk about robinson getting enough carries is the play of the qb kramer. that kid stepped in and did a pretty good job. is he better than past sjf qbs that were getting the ball to fehrenbach?

upstate - mail time!

Id like to think that the best QB that SJF has had over the past few years was Fitzpatrick.  He only had one season to showcase his skills, he sat behind Roland for 4 (took a redshirt when he came in with Roland), but he threw 30 fricking TDs and hardly made a bad decision.

[maxpower]

i think what's been lost in the midst of all this talk about robinson getting enough carries is the play of the qb kramer. that kid stepped in and did a pretty good job. is he better than past sjf qbs that were getting the ball to fehrenbach?

upstate - mail time!

Id like to think that the best QB that SJF has had over the past few years was Fitzpatrick.  He only had one season to showcase his skills, he sat behind Roland for 4 (took a redshirt when he came in with Roland), but he threw 30 fricking TDs and hardly made a bad decision.

Kramer is not so much good as he is much better than Suchnya (Kramer is good, but you get my point). WIth Sooch at QB Fisher does not go 9-1 this year.

[theoriginalupstate]

Kramer is more of a game manager than anything.  He doesnt turn it over, he makes smart decisions with the football and can make plays with his legs (not Vick-like but Brady-like).

Sooch is a big play type of guy, he's always looking downfield and will stay in the pocket and take the hit to make a play downfield. 

[Jonny Utah]

anyone know anything about the Union Defense...I hear a lot about the offense.

How are they at stopping the Run? Will Robinson have a day on saturday?

How is the Pass defense?

I know nothing about them, but I will give the nod to Fisher on D, because Hey, I went there.

I know they run a 3-4, and some of the Union faithful say its a bland 3-4.  SJF will tear it apart if Union doesnt do something crazy.  SJF's O-line averages 285lbs and Union's D has one player above 250lbs, also the athleticism of SJF's O-line wont be effected by Union's smaller players (in case anyone uses that the smaller guys can run around the bigger guys line).  

SJF will use their outside zone a ton this week and look for robby to find the cutback lanes if Union stays in the 3-4....

I think SJF tore up Ithaca when they ran the 4-3 as much as this year when they ran the 3-4.  And we went over those clips from the SJF/IC game where it appeared that the players, not the 3-4 was the reason for those big SJF plays.

And correct me if Im wrong, but teams switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4 when they simply dont have the ability to contain the outside run in the 4-3.  That seemed to be the case with Ithaca anyway.

But from what I remember, Union's 3-4 is more of a basic 3-4 with two cover-2 safties and 1 or 2 stand up ends each and every play.  The SS was more of a d-back than run support.

Ithacas 3-4 on the other hand had more cover-3 with the SS playing up on the line in man coverage and run support

[Jonny Utah]

Ok, its story time.

All Ithaca posters have one day to come up a personal story about this place.  (If you dont have one story about it, you arent allowed on d3football.com anymore)  Best story wins a gift certificate to the "shop" next door.

[maxpower]

Many:

A gay friend of mine went there to audition for "Road Rules". He was turned down because, in their words "we already have an intellectual fag."

I challenged the trekkie guy that hangs out in there to a game of pool. I told him he could shoot first. He eyes me and says "are you serious?" I said sure. He proceeds to make five shots in a row. I miss once, he finishes the game. He then goes back to his agenda of letting girls beat him so he can hit on them.

Raven (the guy who always wears chain mail, he'd probably fit in on the LL board) is actually a cool guy. The bartender there is fantastic too. Many free drinks.

On my buddy's last night in town he called me to join him there. He was already wasted, and could only say "Come the the slanty.... the slantycleer... come to the slantycleer!"

Another buddy that was hooking up with two girls that didn't know each other showed up with both of them... and managed to get through the night without letting on to either of them about his exploits with the other.

That's all I can think of right now....


An aside: one good thing about Rochester in the winter, you don't need a beer fridge because you can just stick it in your garage.

[Tags]

Punchin in boys...

After a few days of working on the house Im back to chime in on all this bashing of Coach V. at SJF. 

You do realize that its not his call on the Robinson situation, dont you?  If you want to bash someone please direct it towards the people responsible.  Vos gives his assistants those responsibilities.

Im one of the more critical guys on here, especially about SJF, but the coaches this year are doing the right things in the right situations.  How can some of you guys cry about Robby's carries when they are 9-1 and Robby has 1200yds and 16 tds and is averaging over 6.5 yds a carry.

Seriously maybe they are saving him for the playoffs?  You guys remember what he did in 2004?  He had close to 500yds and 5 tds in 2 games.  Im betting you'll be seeing the 30plus carry game this week vs an explosive Union team. 

Vos has done nothing wrong in this situation.

I'll bash him all day long. I do know the situation - And They're not saving him for the playoffs. They straight up couldn't find a creative way to get Reile on the field so the only thing they found was to have him alternate series w/ Mark.

You can't say "don't cry b/c he's got 1,200 yds & 16 td's"... He's got 25% less carries than he had in 2004 & he's STILL posting those numbers. That means.................................. He's THAT good. And he shouldn't be splitting time with anyone. Period.

[Tags]

Also, I'm not saying he should get 35 carries a game like he did in 2004. They're offense is much more balanced this year & I think more dangerous. Yes they are using their ends more and they should be.

What I am saying, is that he should be in the backfield on every series unless he needs a breather - You can't argue that.