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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

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Defenses played by MUC Opponents (Kmic's Att-Yds-TDs):
(Keep in mind that Kmic didn't play all 4 quarters in many of the regular season games)

Averett:  4-3   (7-73-2)
Otterbein:  4-2-5  (11-135-1)
Muskingum:  3-4  (6-61-1)
Heidleberg:  4-3  (12-130-2)
Ohio Northern:  4-3  (24-204-3)
Wilmington: 4-3  (13-74-2)
Baldwin Wallace:  4-3  (35-214-1)
Capital:  4-3  (35-241-3)
John Carroll:  4-3  (19-79-3)
Marietta:  3-4  (24-176-2)
Hope:  4-2-5  (6-43-1)
Wheaton:  4-3 (29-294-3)
Capital:  4-3  (38-174-0)
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superman57

the second game of fisher springfield was more telling they were not ready for Sharpe and Sharpe had the game of his life
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: amonachino on December 05, 2006, 03:37:09 PM
How or why did SJF defense give up 55 pts. to Springfield?  This is a weakness..no 

I think that comment shows a certain ignorance about the situation in question, since most people understand Springfield does not run a typical offense.  In that game, SJF lost their QB (Kramer) for virtually the entire second half.  While trying to come back with a depleted defense, Springfield kept its momentum alive and then rolled in the fourth quarter.  The game was reasonable until that point for any team facing Springfield for the first time in a season.  I think one might retort that SJF kept Springfield to 21 points just two weeks ago.  That seems to be a better reflection of SJF's season, especially the playoff games thus far.

(Ummmm...how did I become the torch-bearer for SJF suddenly?)

Frank Rossi

Quote from: kirasdad on December 05, 2006, 03:46:24 PM
Defenses played by MUC Opponents (Kmic's Att-Yds-TDs):
(Keep in mind that Kmic didn't play all 4 quarters in many of the regular season games)

Averett:  4-3   (7-73-2)
Otterbein:  4-2-5  (11-135-1)
Muskingum:  3-4  (6-61-1)
Heidleberg:  4-3  (12-130-2)
Ohio Northern:  4-3  (24-204-3)
Wilmington: 4-3  (13-74-2)
Baldwin Wallace:  4-3  (35-214-1)
Capital:  4-3  (35-241-3)
John Carroll:  4-3  (19-79-3)
Marietta:  3-4  (24-176-2)
Hope:  4-2-5  (6-43-1)
Wheaton:  4-3 (29-294-3)
Capital:  4-3  (38-174-0)

Now that's great info.  Of course, it shows that SJF's base defense is somewhat foreign to Mt. Union this season.  The Hope game is interesting -- 6 men in the box and only 43 yards on 6 carries?  Was there an injury or something odd there?  Otherwise, Kmic was pretty consistent in 3/4 man fronts with 6/7 in the box.  Doesn't disprove my thought, but he's obviously a very good back.  The 4-4 could prove interesting if SJF stays in it for the entire game.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: amonachino on December 05, 2006, 03:37:09 PM
How or why did SJF defense give up 55 pts. to Springfield?  This is a weakness..no 

Well its a multitude of reasons why they gave up the double nickle:

A) First and foremost Chris Sharpe is pretty damn good and he had the game of his life vs SJF.  260+ yds and 7 TDs.  

B) Springfields tripple option caused alot of misreads by players that normally do not play (SJF had 3 starters out with injury).

C) SJF did not tackle well at all that game.  

D) The offense uncharacteristicly turned the ball over a ton (yet still put up 500yds and 38pts)  That put the D in bad situations all day.

All of these reasons combined were the reason why SJF allowed 55 that day.  However if you look to the 2nd round game this year vs the same Springfield team, you'll notice that they held SC to 200yds rushing and 21pts.  

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Superman57 on December 05, 2006, 03:46:57 PM
the second game of fisher springfield was more telling they were not ready for Sharpe and Sharpe had the game of his life

Yes, SJF had no troubles with the SC offense in their two prior meetins in 2004 and 2005.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: fisheralum91 on December 05, 2006, 02:21:05 PM
I think Rowan proved what happens when you try to pass on Stepnick!

So did Union.  (Sorry Frank)

He had a 100yd int return for a TD.

Tags

Quote from: theaprof on December 05, 2006, 02:39:34 PM
No disrespect intended--but I doubt very much that SJF will be able to shut down our running game--Capital, with a very strong defense felt like they did well to hold Kmic to 163 yards.  Their coach (Collins) stated that since Kmic had no runs of more than 15 yds that his defense had contained him well.

Holding Kmic to 163 yds rushing is containing him?

Yup, he's that good. That's why he's the workhorse and gets most of the touches.

Oh, and if you do contain him keep in mind that there are a few more on our team that can run the ball as well:

RUSHING         GP    Att  Gain   Loss  Net  Avg   TD  Long  Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nate Kmic          13  269 1920  37  1883  7.0  23   80    144.8
Justin Wray        12   47  456    7    449    9.6   5    41     37.4
Matthew Barge   12   60  428   13   415    6.9   0    35     34.6
Greg Micheli       13   79  437   43   394    5.0   8     33     30.3
T. Morring          13   40  283    0    283    7.1   3     38     21.8

Since we're all rushing - Here's what MUC will have to contend with... Note that Fisher is not one dimensional either, and Robinson's carries are way down from his 2,000 yd season in 2004. MUC will get a nice steady dose of him - We'll need him to have the best game of his career if we're going to move the ball.

RUSHING         GP  Att Gain Loss  Net   Avg  TD Long Avg/G
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Robinson 13  244 1521  61 1460   6.0   23   69 112.3
James Reile     13  147  836   33  803   5.5   9   56  61.8


theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Frank Rossi on December 05, 2006, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on December 05, 2006, 03:46:24 PM
Defenses played by MUC Opponents (Kmic's Att-Yds-TDs):
(Keep in mind that Kmic didn't play all 4 quarters in many of the regular season games)

Averett:  4-3   (7-73-2)
Otterbein:  4-2-5  (11-135-1)
Muskingum:  3-4  (6-61-1)
Heidleberg:  4-3  (12-130-2)
Ohio Northern:  4-3  (24-204-3)
Wilmington: 4-3  (13-74-2)
Baldwin Wallace:  4-3  (35-214-1)
Capital:  4-3  (35-241-3)
John Carroll:  4-3  (19-79-3)
Marietta:  3-4  (24-176-2)
Hope:  4-2-5  (6-43-1)
Wheaton:  4-3 (29-294-3)
Capital:  4-3  (38-174-0)

Now that's great info.  Of course, it shows that SJF's base defense is somewhat foreign to Mt. Union this season.  The Hope game is interesting -- 6 men in the box and only 43 yards on 6 carries?  Was there an injury or something odd there?  Otherwise, Kmic was pretty consistent in 3/4 man fronts with 6/7 in the box.  Doesn't disprove my thought, but he's obviously a very good back.  The 4-4 could prove interesting if SJF stays in it for the entire game.

FR, the key to their 4-4 is their big guys up front.  They need to gobble up blockers and keep the guards off of the ILBers.  If they do, it will give Lang and Gottlieb a chance to make plays.  However, if the MUC O-line drives them off the ball and into the LBers path while they are trying to flow to the ball it will open up some big holes and result in long gains/big plays.

Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Frank Rossi:

Hope game was a blowout (49-0) and lots of Raiders had carries that day:

Rushing             No Gain Loss  Net TD Lg  Avg
--------------------------------------------
T. Morring           7   53    0   53  1 24  7.6
Nate Kmic           6   43    0   43  1 20  7.2
Trevor Bruney      8   47    5   42  0 13  5.2
Matthew Barge   11   47    7   40  0 11  3.6
Justin Wray         4   28    0   28  0 12  7.0
Mike Jorris          2   24    0   24  1 15 12.0
Greg Micheli        4   27   17   10  1 14  2.5
Totals...            42  269   29  240  4 24  5.7
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theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Tags on December 05, 2006, 03:57:11 PM

Since we're all rushing - Here's what MUC will have to contend with... Note that Fisher is not one dimensional either, and Robinson's carries are way down from his 2,000 yd season in 2004. MUC will get a nice steady dose of him - We'll need him to have the best game of his career if we're going to move the ball.

RUSHING         GP  Att Gain Loss  Net   Avg  TD Long Avg/G
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Robinson 13  244 1521  61 1460   6.0   23   69 112.3
James Reile     13  147  836   33  803   5.5   9   56  61.8



I dont necessarily think he'll need the game of his life, but he needs to keep getting positive yardage.  I remember Dick Vermile saying, while in KC, that the offense needs to have at least 50 positive yardage plays to be effective.  I cant argue with that because SJF is constantly facing alot of 3rd and 10's (or more) they probably will be watching the Stagg Bowl on ESPN instead of playing in it!

Tags

Quote from: Upstate on December 05, 2006, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: Tags on December 05, 2006, 03:57:11 PM

Since we're all rushing - Here's what MUC will have to contend with... Note that Fisher is not one dimensional either, and Robinson's carries are way down from his 2,000 yd season in 2004. MUC will get a nice steady dose of him - We'll need him to have the best game of his career if we're going to move the ball.

RUSHING         GP  Att Gain Loss  Net   Avg  TD Long Avg/G
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Robinson 13  244 1521  61 1460   6.0   23   69 112.3
James Reile     13  147  836   33  803   5.5   9   56  61.8



I dont necessarily think he'll need the game of his life, but he needs to keep getting positive yardage.  I remember Dick Vermile saying, while in KC, that the offense needs to have at least 50 positive yardage plays to be effective.  I cant argue with that because SJF is constantly facing alot of 3rd and 10's (or more) they probably will be watching the Stagg Bowl on ESPN instead of playing in it!

Upstate - to get positive yards each play, Mark may very well have to have the best game of his career vs. this Defense. He'll need to be quick, make great decisions, and run hard each & every time he gets the ball. If he does, we'll be able to move the ball in my opinion. - - - Depending on our O-line giving him some opportunities of course, but I have faith in our boys up front. Ramsey will have to be sharp too - They look like they have some great LB's, and he'll need to blast them out of the gaps when he's in there leading.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Tags on December 05, 2006, 04:10:14 PM
Upstate - to get positive yards each play, Mark may very well have to have the best game of his career vs. this Defense. He'll need to be quick, make great decisions, and run hard each & every time he gets the ball. If he does, we'll be able to move the ball in my opinion. - - - Depending on our O-line giving him some opportunities of course, but I have faith in our boys up front. Ramsey will have to be sharp too - They look like they have some great LB's, and he'll need to blast them out of the gaps when he's in there leading.

Tags I was talking statistically, he doesnt need a 200yd 3td game (although I wouldnt mind it  ;) )!

OU#25

Obviously the 4-4 defense has worked well for SJF this season.  Curious how it holds up against 4 & 5 WR sets?  You may not be aware that Mount's 2 QB's would rank #1 & #2 in the nation in passing efficiency if they had the minimum amount of throws this season.  Splitting time has cost them this distinction.
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theoriginalupstate

Quote from: OU#25 on December 05, 2006, 04:22:59 PM
Obviously the 4-4 defense has worked well for SJF this season.  Curious how it holds up against 4 & 5 WR sets?  You may not be aware that Mount's 2 QB's would rank #1 & #2 in the nation in passing efficiency if they had the minimum amount of throws this season.  Splitting time has cost them this distinction.

Their OLBers are pretty athletic and good in pass coverage, however when facing a multiple WR set they usually go to a Nickle or Dime D.