FB: Empire 8

[JQV]

Speaking of Neil Weidman and Brian Young, they were fantastic QB's from down in my neck of the woods. Pretty good on the hardwood as well - both could light it up from pretty much anywhere on the court.

I believe the Zapata kid from Hornell (BY Alumni) will be a very prized posession in a year's time if he does not go DI - which I doubt.

I'm surprised Fisher, Alfred, etc aren't getting more of the local talent around the area. Keeley is from Cal-Mum, and I know Fisher has a few from that area, but not as many as I had anticipated.

Edit: Robinson was from there, and I believe the best back to ever come from the Southern Tier. Zapata is setting records though, and I'd look for Fisher, Alfred, and Ithaca to be courting him hard core.

BY was a great hoop player.  If memory serves, he was seriously contemplating playing hoop at IC after his senior football season but had a nagging injury from the playoffs that kept him out.

I played a ton of pickup hoop with him after I had hung it up as well.  Always good runs.

[JQV]

I didn't read this close enough the first time:

I'm surprised Fisher, Alfred, etc aren't getting more of the local talent around the area. Keeley is from Cal-Mum, and I know Fisher has a few from that area, but not as many as I had anticipated.

That is sort of a funny example to pick since Keeley has played for both Fisher and Alfred.

[Jonny Utah]

Speaking of Neil Weidman and Brian Young, they were fantastic QB's from down in my neck of the woods. Pretty good on the hardwood as well - both could light it up from pretty much anywhere on the court.

Its funny you mention that.

If you look at the alltime New York State Basketball leading scorers you will find all these guys like Kareem Abdul Jabar, Kenny Anderson, Juwan Howard, and then in the middle of all them is Neil Wideman from Dansville High School.

And of course the almighty TQ is from Hornell as well!

The kid was amazing - I watched him pull up from places nobody has any business shooting from.

Who is TQ ... is that a Quinlin (sp?) ?

Tibiron Quinn.  He was a 6'3 340 pound tackle for IC in the early-mid ninties.

[Tags]

Ah, don't remember him.

What site were you looking at for those records in NYS?

[JQV]

Tibiron Quinn.  He was a 6'3 340 pound tackle for IC in the early-mid ninties.

He was like the early 90s Killa Kam Muhammed.

[Jonny Utah]

Ah, don't remember him.

What site were you looking at for those records in NYS?

you know what I tried to look for them about a year ago and couldnt find them.  Im sure with a little googling and digging you can find em.

['gro]

Ah, don't remember him.

What site were you looking at for those records in NYS?

you know what I tried to look for them about a year ago and couldnt find them.  Im sure with a little googling and digging you can find em.

BAM!!

http://www.nysphsaa.org/sports/records/

[Jonny Utah]

Ah, don't remember him.

What site were you looking at for those records in NYS?

you know what I tried to look for them about a year ago and couldnt find them.  Im sure with a little googling and digging you can find em.

BAM!!

http://www.nysphsaa.org/sports/records/

Great find Gro! Interesting Football stuff too.  Man there are some random names from the past in there too.

That punk Greg Paulus was a stud huh?

And Amos Zereoe is one of the few name I recognized, dorsey levens

Ralph Barone! 

who is the mike hart kid from onadaga?

[Jonny Utah]

Boys Basketball
Most Points, Career
  Charles Palmer        Rochester School for Deaf 2875       1996-2002
  Ken Wood              East Hampton              2613       1985-89
  Bobby Hodgson         William Floyd             2532       1990-94
  Bernard Blunt         Jamesville-Dewitt         2510       1985-90
  Neil Weidman          Dansville                 2441       1988-93
  Ralph Angelo          Honeoye                   2410       1987-91
  Scott Wilson          Lyme                      2391       1978-82
  Chris Ciaccio         Gloversville              2373       1986-90
  Ritchie Campbell      Buffalo Burgard           2360       1986-90
  Terry Brown           Clyde-Savannah            2360       1982-86
  Eric Siegrist         Spackenkill               2345       1995-99
  Jason Amore           Friendship                2332       1989-93
  Damien Foster         Buffalo Traditional       2324       1992-96
  Jason Rowe            Buffalo Traditional       2290       1992-96
  Marcus Whitfield      Buffalo Burgard           2285       1985-89
  Nate Cannon           Rome School Deaf          2262       1966-70
  Maceo Wofford         Jamestown                 2260       1995-99
  Mike Heary            Fredonia                  2240       1990-94
  Jim Ryder             Tioga                     2240       1984-88
  Toby Foster           Candor                    2231       1995-99
  Tony Traver           Greenwich                 2190       1976-80
  Joe Girard            Shenendehowa              2180       1986-90
  Curtis Aiken          Buffalo Bennett           2162       1979-83
  Chris Moore           Buffalo Park School       2161       1992-96
  Gary Williams         Bay Shore                 2125       1989-93
  Al Edwards            Greenport                 2120       1968-72
  Danya Abrams          Hackley School            2120       1988-93
  Artavius Fisher       Kingston                  2114       2000-04
  Jim Stockwell         Belleville                2110       1965-69
  Jason Mathias         Galway/Amsterdam          2103       1992-95


And there it is.  Still #4?  I could have sworn Lew Alcindor and Kenny Anderson were on that list.

And you know what?  I bet they dont keep NYC stats.

['gro]

For basketball NYC doesn't count (hence Schenectady HS winning 2 state titles in the 90's)  They play a 4 team tournament afterwords where the state champ plays the NYC teams (public league, private league).  SHS made it to the final of that tourney once.

[Jonny Utah]

For basketball NYC doesn't count (hence Schenectady HS winning 2 state titles in the 90's)  They play a 4 team tournament afterwords where the state champ plays the NYC teams (public league, private league).  SHS made it to the final of that tourney once.

Thats right.  So Shocktown High was invited to NYC's tourney? Or the one in Glens Falls?

[Jonny Utah]

Matt Verkey           Mynderse                   930       1991-92

Funny.  There was this kid that lived on my floor my freshman year who thought this kid "verkey" was a god.  I mean, you would have thought Matt Verkey posters would be on this kids wall if they had them.

I probably wouldnt have ever heard of this kids name the rest of my life if it werent for Gro!

[theoriginalupstate]

Boys Basketball
Most Points, Career
  Charles Palmer        Rochester School for Deaf 2875       1996-2002
  Ken Wood              East Hampton              2613       1985-89
  Bobby Hodgson         William Floyd             2532       1990-94
  Bernard Blunt         Jamesville-Dewitt         2510       1985-90
  Neil Weidman          Dansville                 2441       1988-93
  Ralph Angelo          Honeoye                   2410       1987-91
  Scott Wilson          Lyme                      2391       1978-82
  Chris Ciaccio         Gloversville              2373       1986-90
  Ritchie Campbell      Buffalo Burgard           2360       1986-90
  Terry Brown           Clyde-Savannah            2360       1982-86
  Eric Siegrist         Spackenkill               2345       1995-99
  Jason Amore           Friendship                2332       1989-93
  Damien Foster         Buffalo Traditional       2324       1992-96
  Jason Rowe            Buffalo Traditional       2290       1992-96
  Marcus Whitfield      Buffalo Burgard           2285       1985-89
  Nate Cannon           Rome School Deaf          2262       1966-70
  Maceo Wofford         Jamestown                 2260       1995-99
  Mike Heary            Fredonia                  2240       1990-94
  Jim Ryder             Tioga                     2240       1984-88
  Toby Foster           Candor                    2231       1995-99
  Tony Traver           Greenwich                 2190       1976-80
  Joe Girard            Shenendehowa              2180       1986-90
  Curtis Aiken          Buffalo Bennett           2162       1979-83
  Chris Moore           Buffalo Park School       2161       1992-96
  Gary Williams         Bay Shore                 2125       1989-93
  Al Edwards            Greenport                 2120       1968-72
  Danya Abrams          Hackley School            2120       1988-93
  Artavius Fisher       Kingston                  2114       2000-04
  Jim Stockwell         Belleville                2110       1965-69
  Jason Mathias         Galway/Amsterdam          2103       1992-95

Playing vs those two was like playing defense in sand.....we could not get past them in sectionals to save our lives..

['gro]

For basketball NYC doesn't count (hence Schenectady HS winning 2 state titles in the 90's)  They play a 4 team tournament afterwords where the state champ plays the NYC teams (public league, private league).  SHS made it to the final of that tourney once.

Thats right.  So Shocktown High was invited to NYC's tourney? Or the one in Glens Falls?

The one in GF

http://www.nysbasketball.net/NYSFSSAA/NYSFSSAA-home.htm

The New York State Federation of Secondary Schools Athletic Association (NYSFSSAA) is comprised of all four (4) High School Athletic Association in New York State.  These members include the New York State Public High School Athletic (PHSAA), the Catholic High School Athletic Association (CHSAA), the Public Schools Athletic Association of New York City (PSAL), and the Association of Independent Schools Athletic Association (AISAA).
The champions of each of these associations in three (3) classifications (AA - A - B) go on to compete in the New York State Federation Tournament of Champions.  These championships comprise both the boys and girls teams and are held each March at the Glens Falls Civic Center.

[Tags]

Matt Verkey           Mynderse                   930       1991-92

Funny.  There was this kid that lived on my floor my freshman year who thought this kid "verkey" was a god.  I mean, you would have thought Matt Verkey posters would be on this kids wall if they had them.

I probably wouldnt have ever heard of this kids name the rest of my life if it werent for Gro!

Gro- Great find, thanks. +k Edit: Already got you today, will have to wait.

JU- Verkey was actually really good.