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theoriginalupstate

Tags, i understand those points.  You however were the one taking it personal to begin with. When Robby wasn't getting the carries you thought he should you blasted the coaches up an down every week, even though they went 9-1 in the regular seaon.

They tried giving a ton of carries w/ Meyers and that got them to the ECAC's, which was nice and all but it also probably cost us an NCAA birth as he was really banged up for 2 of the 3 losses we had in 03.  

They then tried it with Robinson and it got him 2000yds in 04 and an NCAA birth in 04.  However it also got him a separated shoulder in 05.  They split carries w/ Robby in the regular season last year and come playoff time he was a beast.

These coaches, contrary to your beliefs, know what they are doing.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Superman57 on September 02, 2007, 05:44:59 PM

the issue  here is we are supposed to blow out kings...but the issue comes with what I said before... there is this really bad, smelly, small school that sits on a hill and is looking for some revenge and we need to figure the offense out before we get to the lousy town with all the gorges...and if I'm right in the last two games Reile has average 2.8 ypc...so we need to see wheter or not Hanson can handle being the feature back

The coaches know who's coming up on the schedule on the 15th and 22nd, im sure they dont want to tip their hand to UR and IC.  

was6thstring

Hey supe --looks like you"re gonna get your wish.

superman57

I just want to see fisher beat IC... If it is reile that is going to do that then good if it is hanson then it is going to that the good...if it is your mother that is gonna get the carries then fine as long as she can average 4 or 5 yards per carry... and I have no issues with a two back system but you need to know who is hot and who isn't and Upstate the 03 team was good but not great... they had a hard time comming up big in the final minutes as we saw in the bport loss and the RPI loss...


so lets not forget that we should routing these teams and if we don't then we have some serious issues coming up on the 22
Quote from: Tags on October 10, 2007, 10:59:38 PM
You're the only dood on the board that doesn't know & accept that '57 can't spell.

Poor grammar and horrible spelling... it's just how he rolls.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Superman57 on September 02, 2007, 06:11:09 PM
I just want to see fisher beat IC... If it is reile that is going to do that then good if it is hanson then it is going to that the good...if it is your mother that is gonna get the carries then fine as long as she can average 4 or 5 yards per carry... and I have no issues with a two back system but you need to know who is hot and who isn't and Upstate the 03 team was good but not great... they had a hard time comming up big in the final minutes as we saw in the bport loss and the RPI loss...


so lets not forget that we should routing these teams and if we don't then we have some serious issues coming up on the 22

If Meyers wasnt getting 35-40 carries the first 5 or 6 games of the season he would of finished the Port game (he had 110yds midway through the 3rd qtr before getting a high ankle sprain) and would of been healthier vs RPI (74yds 1td but 3.2 ypc).  That team was stacked with talent and could of put up a good show in the NCAA's.

was6thstring

I think the split back issue may have become academic.

FisherAlum05

Quote from: JoseQViper on September 01, 2007, 07:08:51 PM
Quote from: fisheralum05 on September 01, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on September 01, 2007, 03:40:19 PM
Damn why did BC join the ACC.  Don't they know you can't recruit kids in the Northeast and compete with football teams in the South?  Way not to start a season...throw a pick 6

ridiculous comment.  hasn't BC won or competed for the ACC crown every year they have been in the league?  

Yah...in Basketball.

2005 ACC Championship game FSU over Va. Tech

BC 5-3 in league play including a loss to UNC.  UNC?!?!?!

2006 ACC Championship game Wake over Ga. Tech

BC 5-3 in a down year in the league.

Talk to Troy Smith before you start arguing that a team made primarily of players from north of the M-D can play with a Southern team.

Lets talk about Jose's comments here cause they are pretty hysterical.  I believe Boston College has been pretty tough in the ACC.  They just beat the the defending champions in Wake Forest and I think they have a pretty competitve football team.  Even against Southern Teams I would say.  
St. John Fisher College...King of the East

FisherAlum05

Quote from: tecmobowler on September 02, 2007, 08:38:55 AM
At halftime of the Ithaca/Fisher game three years ago Fisher was up big at halftime.  I was next to the fence and a number of their coaches were talking about how they couldn't wait to get on d3football after the game (which they almost ended up blowing). Between that and the players grandstanding to the fans last year, it's pretty obvious that winning is a recent trend at Fisher...

So to all those coaches reading....

PLEASE CONTINUE TO START JAMES REILE. 

Thanks.

Tecmo,

That was a pretty rude comment.  I think you're better than that.  Leave the SJF Coaching staff alone.  They have done a better job in the past few years in terms of winning than the IC staff.  Reile will continue to get alot of carries and I have confidence that he will be very good. 
St. John Fisher College...King of the East

pg04

I would agree there is a little too much whining going on after a 49-7 win.  I'm sure the coaching staff knows how to win, and who to play that gives them the chance to win, without looking on here. 

Tags

Quote from: Upstate on September 02, 2007, 05:45:59 PM
Tags, i understand those points.  You however were the one taking it personal to begin with. When Robby wasn't getting the carries you thought he should you blasted the coaches up an down every week, even though they went 9-1 in the regular seaon.

They tried giving a ton of carries w/ Meyers and that got them to the ECAC's, which was nice and all but it also probably cost us an NCAA birth as he was really banged up for 2 of the 3 losses we had in 03.  

They then tried it with Robinson and it got him 2000yds in 04 and an NCAA birth in 04.  However it also got him a separated shoulder in 05.  They split carries w/ Robby in the regular season last year and come playoff time he was a beast.

These coaches, contrary to your beliefs, know what they are doing.

Are you serious? An awkward landing got him a seperated shoulder, not the amount of carries he had in 2004.

Please tell me, here on public TV that Reile is a better than, or even equal to Robinson. They did have a 9-1 record, and Robinson had like 20+ TD's with roughly 1/3 less carries a game. What does that tell you? I need you to justify the coaching philosophy of sitting an All-American back b/c the coaching staff is not creative enough to get Reile in the game some other way.

Honestly, you need to say it publically so we have it on record. Just say this:
"I agree with the philosophy of sitting an All-American running back every other series because there is another player that can help us out, but we can't figure out how else to get him some touches."

It doesn't matter who the player is, it doesn't have to be a Mark Robinson / James Reile discussion. Why have two good backs split series - why can't they find a way to get them BOTH ON THE FIELD. Make defenses have to worry about them BOTH. Come on dude, enough is enough. It's not personal, what stake do I have in it? It's about the bigger picture. Beating up on teams b/c you have the overall talent to do so doesn't excuse these types of things.

Tags

I won't be the one to drag this on anymore gents - I know it's painful for a lot of you guys to view, and I've said my piece 8)


FisherAlum05

Quote from: fisheralum05 on September 02, 2007, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on September 01, 2007, 07:08:51 PM
Quote from: fisheralum05 on September 01, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on September 01, 2007, 03:40:19 PM
Damn why did BC join the ACC.  Don't they know you can't recruit kids in the Northeast and compete with football teams in the South?  Way not to start a season...throw a pick 6

ridiculous comment.  hasn't BC won or competed for the ACC crown every year they have been in the league?  

Yah...in Basketball.

2005 ACC Championship game FSU over Va. Tech

BC 5-3 in league play including a loss to UNC.  UNC?!?!?!

2006 ACC Championship game Wake over Ga. Tech

BC 5-3 in a down year in the league.

Talk to Troy Smith before you start arguing that a team made primarily of players from north of the M-D can play with a Southern team.

Lets talk about Jose's comments here cause they are pretty hysterical.  I believe Boston College has been pretty tough in the ACC.  They just beat the the defending champions in Wake Forest and I think they have a pretty competitve football team.  Even against Southern Teams I would say.  

Also, Boston College since its move to the ACC in 2005, has beaten Virginia Tech, Florida State, Clemson (twice), Virginia, Wake Forest (twice), NC State, Maryland (twice).  Aren't those teams from the South??

They did lose to UNC in 2005, but every good program has a down game once in a while.  They also lost close games to Florida State in 2005, and Miami last season.

All in all I think BC has done very well against the Southern Teams.  Maybe they will win the ACC this year and that will quiet all the doubters.

In case you haven't noticed im a BC fan thats why I have to defend them.

St. John Fisher College...King of the East

pg04

Quote from: Tags on September 02, 2007, 07:02:38 PM
I won't be the one to drag this on anymore gents - I know it's painful for a lot of you guys to view, and I've said my piece 8)



This after the long winded diatribe the post before?  Oh well, +K for trying to end it! 

pg04

Quote from: fisheralum05 on September 02, 2007, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: fisheralum05 on September 02, 2007, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on September 01, 2007, 07:08:51 PM
Quote from: fisheralum05 on September 01, 2007, 05:26:40 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on September 01, 2007, 03:40:19 PM
Damn why did BC join the ACC.  Don't they know you can't recruit kids in the Northeast and compete with football teams in the South?  Way not to start a season...throw a pick 6

ridiculous comment.  hasn't BC won or competed for the ACC crown every year they have been in the league? 

Yah...in Basketball.

2005 ACC Championship game FSU over Va. Tech

BC 5-3 in league play including a loss to UNC.  UNC?!?!?!

2006 ACC Championship game Wake over Ga. Tech

BC 5-3 in a down year in the league.

Talk to Troy Smith before you start arguing that a team made primarily of players from north of the M-D can play with a Southern team.

Lets talk about Jose's comments here cause they are pretty hysterical.  I believe Boston College has been pretty tough in the ACC.  They just beat the the defending champions in Wake Forest and I think they have a pretty competitve football team.  Even against Southern Teams I would say. 

Also, Boston College since its move to the ACC in 2005, has beaten Virginia Tech, Florida State, Clemson (twice), Virginia, Wake Forest (twice), NC State, Maryland (twice).  Aren't those teams from the South??

They did lose to UNC in 2005, but every good program has a down game once in a while.  They also lost close games to Florida State in 2005, and Miami last season.

All in all I think BC has done very well against the Southern Teams.  Maybe they will win the ACC this year and that will quiet all the doubters.

In case you haven't noticed im a BC fan thats why I have to defend them.



I would have a tendency to agree with you on this.  Although I think the overall strength of the ACC has declined recently, BC has done a good job in the conference. 

Tags

Speaking of Northern vs. Southern teams... Didn't see the 33-3 pounding of Notre Dame coming - that's pretty horrible. Charlie Weis may want to focus on the team instead of the QB shell game he's playing with the media.