FB: Empire 8

[AUPepBand]

but pep was not making a comment Alfred-Ithaca he was in fact making a comment about Fisher-Ithaca...so it still proves my point

Pep was inquiring as to why Fisher fans are so obsessed with calling its annual contest with Ithaca a "rivalry." Pep surmises that Fisher fans would like to think their program has risen to the height of South Hill and play at the same level.

Pep contends that Alfred plays at the highest level of any New York State football program as Merrill Field is at about 1762 feet.

However, you don't risk bodily injury as much as you do at Hartwick's field...you could easily roll down a mountain or compress your neck if you don't play your cards right there...So, Hartwick plays at the highest level with respect to the rest of its campus.

Indeed, Hartwick's mascot should be the Mountain Goat, although Oneonta is only about 1100 feet above sea level.

Still another ridiculously random post from Pep.  

[Frank Rossi]

Jose,

I have to say I am a bit disappointed.  I just read back on the past 7 pages or so and if you mean it or not you sound pretty malicious and a touch egocentric.  I look most forward to the Ithaca-Fisher game but I really don't like how you just blatantly call Ithaca the king of the hill that everybody looks too.  Since the creation of the E8 Fisher has done better than Ithaca and you can't really dispute that.  Fisher has never had a losing record in the E8, and has done more in the playoffs.  You guys are also so quick to point out the demise of other schools such as Brockport or Buff State but remain blind to the fact your last national championship was nearly 20 years ago and you guys are not on the elite level any longer, just a very good progam same as Fisher, Springfield, etc.  Annnnnyway I have to go for now, but I will be back on later to check your response.  I assume it has to turn ugly since this is the week Fisher plays Ithaca but it just seemed a bit overly harsh, and my comments may seem that way as well but that's not the intended reaction.  

Wow.  I almost cried at this.  Then I realized that some guy named Booby wrote it.  Then I wasn't so sad.

[realistic]

booby - it's 5 O'clock and I am exhausted....I don't have time to comment on this right now but you don't make sense with that statement.  Since the creation of the Empire 8, Ithaca has won the most titles.  3 outright and 1 co-champs.  Fisher has been co-champs twice.  your story has holes.

[Saxon73]

If Fisher wants to consider the game a rivalry so be it.  That doesn't mean IC has to.  Enough said?

[JQV]

Booby:

The E8 began sponsoring Football in 2002

In that time IC is 23-4 in Conference Play while Fisher is 19-7.  How is it that I cannot dispute Fisher's dominance of the E8?

Oh, by the way, in that period IC also is 3-2 against the Fish.

Now, tell me again about dominance?  Maybe you meant in Conference titles?

The simple fact that all the Fisher posters are comparing themselves endlessly to IC proves my point.

[theoriginalupstate]

Booby:

The E8 began sponsoring Football in 2002

In that time IC is 23-4 in Conference Play while Fisher is 19-7.  How is it that I cannot dispute Fisher's dominance of the E8?

Oh, by the way, in that period IC also is 3-2 against the Fish.

Now, tell me again about dominance?  Maybe you meant in Conference titles?

The simple fact that all the Fisher posters are comparing themselves endlessly to IC proves my point.

excuse me?

I could care less about what IC has done in the past.

[boobyhasgameyo]

Good thing I wasn't trying to say Fisher was the dominant team and the king of the hill.  You missed my point.  I was saying there is no clear cut King of the Castle, Fisher has had just as much success.   I don't endlessly compare Fisher to IC randomly it's only when the Ithaca posters start ranting about how great they are which they do just as often. 

[AUPepBand]

So this one time at Band Camp....

[theoriginalupstate]

So this one time at Band Camp....

This one time at Alfred, me and my buddy got a $5 Pizza at Uni-Mart and dropped it on our way up to our dorm.  Needless to say with us being lineman and drunk we still ate it.

[Knightstalker]

Look at it this way, since 93, Fisher has made it to as many national Semi-Finals as any team from the East bracket not named Rowan, once.

Looking at last years results and the results so far this season Fisher is the best team in the East right now and they are the team to beat, not Ithaca, Not MSU, Not Alfred, not Hartwick, not a LL team, Fisher.

[boobyhasgameyo]

See the thing is, I am not trying to get people to say "God Fisher is undoubtably the team to beat and will be for the next 50 years"  I just want the Ithaca people to stop.  RPI people don't talk like that, Hobart people don't, Union people don't.  It's the Ithaca ones.  Why?  Because they draw on the national championships that happened so many years ago.  If you take those away and just go by what they have actually done for the past 10 years they are a very good program same as the other ones I listed above, but no real reason to act as arrogant as they do at times.  I like the Ithaca posters I really do, it's just the arrogance thing that gets to me.  This will all blow over as it frequently does after the game is played, maybe everybody just has to air out their aggressions.  I'm ok with that.   

[Saxon73]

Look at it this way, since 93, Fisher has made it to as many national Semi-Finals as any team from the East bracket not named Rowan, once.

Looking at last years results and the results so far this season Fisher is the best team in the East right now and they are the team to beat, not Ithaca, Not MSU, Not Alfred, not Hartwick, not a LL team, Fisher.

I'm not convinced last year is significant.  For this year, none of the teams mentioned has a truly, significant victory.  Subjectivity doesn't give proof and is based on too much emotion.  This weekend will bring light to objectivity and realism.  Right now it's still too early.

[FisherAlum05]

hmmm.
when then can we call the IC SJFC game a rivalry?

apparently never.

[bomber27]

Honestly, I am sitting here bored out of my mind at work and I come on here to be entertained and this is the same argument we had last year.  Yes we both have a good record since the inception of the E8 and honestly, from a players stand point, I know that the players get up for every game regardless.  There is something to this game though.  It is a carnival like atmosphere.  It is cortica but it is a great game.  The E8 is a dominant league and we should continue towards that greatness.  I am literally just rambling which I attribute to work.  

[boobyhasgameyo]

Yeah I am done on the subject because I really did not want to get into an argument when I first started this particular subset of the larger Fisher-Ithaca discussion.  I am bringing up and saying things that just sound like smack talk so that's when it is time for me to end it.  Both teams are obviously good.  I believe Fisher will remain a consistently good team just as Ithaca has done.  I have said my peace until the next time a subject burns at my insides like an unstoppable rebel force.