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Pat-

Have you any information on the formation of a SUNY football conference? My alma mater needs to step it's game up and start a football program.

Money should be no object, Cortland spends a ton on football I'm sure - hence, the funds should be approved.

[AUPepBand]

Here comes the bandwagoners! 

Pep hopes they all hop aboard and come to Merrill Field Saterday....and bring a band along, too!

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Dear Donovan McNabb-

Maybe people aren't getting on you because they are racist. Maybe it's because your team is 1-3, you threw for 138 yards tonight, ran for 4, and lead your team to a whole 3 points.

Sincerely,
Let's be honest

[pg04]

Perhaps they should get an offensive line that would actually, you know, block.

Sincerely,

Winston Justice, AKA Osi Umenyiora's #$%^ (Inappropriate word thal also means female dog  :p -- I guess I shouldn't be too vulgar)

[Lyco80]

The only thing going for Donovan McNabb is the Phillies won and are in the playoffs.

It is hard to see, even in the mediocre NFC, how the Eagles can make the post-season now especially with Dallas playing so well and the Giants and Redskins playing much improved, competitive ball.

It kills me to admit this since I am a die-hard Eagles fan too.

ATB

[DanPadavona]

Pat-

Have you any information on the formation of a SUNY football conference? My alma mater needs to step it's game up and start a football program.

Money should be no object, Cortland spends a ton on football I'm sure - hence, the funds should be approved.

Compared to other schools, I would think Cortland spends very little.  The stadium was a one-time grant.  Remember this is a SUNY school we are talking about.  There's not a lot of funds available to throw at sports.

As far as a SUNY conference goes, I just do not see it happening.  Cortland is pretty happy in the NJAC due to the automatic qualifier.  Brockport, Morrisville, and Buff State fought their way to get in too. 

If there were 7 SUNY football teams, I can see the aforementioned breaking their NJAC ties.  I think it would be great for upstate football to see a SUNY conference.  However...

Maritime has shown no interest in playing its SUNY brothers, with the exception of Morrisville.  And they are apparently joining the NAC with New England based schools.  Me thinks they would rather test themselves against Mount Ida than play Brockport.

Albany and Buffalo are both D1-AA and D-1A respectively.  They aren't moving down.

Binghamton discusses adding football every 10 years or so.  It quickly gets squashed by the gender equity folks.  So they continue to play soccer, drive mini-vans, and hand out orange slices.  My guess is they would be a D1-AA team if they started football anyhow, since they are D1 for their other sports.

Who's left?

Even if Geneseo, or somebody else, started up a program it would only add up to 5 schools potentially willing to play in it.  Nobody is going to leave the NJAC and give up the Pool A/C bid for a Pool B selection and an unfilled schedule.

[fisheralum91]

Climbing and Fisher- Ill be at the AU game in November.
It will be a nice change- since the other games were 7p starts.
Funny to see that some of the people posting were at the game yet i still missed them---Ill try to catch up in November!!

[was6thstring]

The bottom line is all anyone ever talks about is "huge O-line, huge O-line, huge O-line"... If you're going to try and win the game and make a statement, I can semi-understand that. But ONLY if you say ok, we are much bigger than you, and we're going to run it right down your throat right now. You know it's coming, and there is nothing your going to do about it. We're going to end this thing.

Heck, I may even begin to understand the decision if they called some type of play action, tried to hit Smith on a slant, or get Harmon off a bootleg...

But doods, not only did they do none of the above, they brought in the backup QB and put it on his shoulders??? Honestly, who drew that one up? That kid must feel like garbage. Why put him in that position?

Don't kick the chip field goal to tie? ok fine. But to do what they did - Nobody can ever justify that, no matter how much they try to spin it.

Tags-perfect analysis- I was 30 feet away on the side line -the play never had a chance. That poor kid sort of jogged to the line of scrimmage and was swarmed under. Awful to put him in that situation,

[fisheralum91]

sheesh- yet another that made the trip and didnt meet FA91---
i must have forgotten my deodorant

[Fisher96]

Senior Red... when did you play at RPI?

90-94. Had a medical redshirt...tore rotator cuff in 1991

We meet again!  We lined up against each other when Fisher played RPI 93/94....

Outstanding. Some tough games. Split the home & home those 2 years. We were feeling pretty good about ourselves in 1993, thinking NCAA's and such with our high octane offense.....until we came to rochester and the wheeels came off.

Ironic, true story...the previous May in 1992 as we had a team meeting before leaving on summer break, I remember standing up when coach opened the floor up and I told everyone to get ready for SJF and not look past that game. I had some friends on SJF and knew they were hungry and pumped to open against RPI.

That win in 1993 was a nice step forward for the program.

Yep, that 1993 game was my first game starting as a Sophomore and I was petrified.... JP was a tough guy to bring down.  As confident as you guys were in 1993, we were as confident in '94 when you torched us at home.    Along with Hartwick, the battles in the trenches with RPI were the most physical battles in my college career.

[AUPepBand]

Pat-

Have you any information on the formation of a SUNY football conference? My alma mater needs to step it's game up and start a football program.

Money should be no object, Cortland spends a ton on football I'm sure - hence, the funds should be approved.

Compared to other schools, I would think Cortland spends very little.  The stadium was a one-time grant.  Remember this is a SUNY school we are talking about.  There's not a lot of funds available to throw at sports.

As far as a SUNY conference goes, I just do not see it happening.  Cortland is pretty happy in the NJAC due to the automatic qualifier.  Brockport, Morrisville, and Buff State fought their way to get in too. 

If there were 7 SUNY football teams, I can see the aforementioned breaking their NJAC ties.  I think it would be great for upstate football to see a SUNY conference.  However...

Maritime has shown no interest in playing its SUNY brothers, with the exception of Morrisville.  And they are apparently joining the NAC with New England based schools.  Me thinks they would rather test themselves against Mount Ida than play Brockport.

Albany and Buffalo are both D1-AA and D-1A respectively.  They aren't moving down.

Binghamton discusses adding football every 10 years or so.  It quickly gets squashed by the gender equity folks.  So they continue to play soccer, drive mini-vans, and hand out orange slices.  My guess is they would be a D1-AA team if they started football anyhow, since they are D1 for their other sports.

Who's left?

Even if Geneseo, or somebody else, started up a program it would only add up to 5 schools potentially willing to play in it.  Nobody is going to leave the NJAC and give up the Pool A/C bid for a Pool B selection and an unfilled schedule.

Plattsburgh State at one time started a football program but it didn't last very long. In addition to Geneseo, there's Fredonia State, New Paltz, Oneonta State (nice in-town rival for Hartwick), Oswego State, dem bears from Potsdam State and SUNYIT.

It appears from the SUNYAC website that only the first three schools in the SUNYAC, alphabetically speaking, have football programs, so the next in line to start a football program, alphabetically speaking, would be Fredonia State, followed closely by Geneseo State (Pep's first real drummer in AU Pep Band runs the hockey pep band there), New Paltz, etc.

[AUPepBand]

Alfred State has a football program and has baccalaureate programs but until it has a baccalaureate program for which its 700 occupational trades students can matriculate into, or, perhaps, sell off the program to Jamestown Community College, it's stuck with the junior colleges. Jamestown Community College got its start as an extension campus of Alfred University, much like AU is taking on 400 additional students in Istanbul, (or is that Constantinople?) Turkey.

[Jonny Utah]

Except you came off like you were telling the board to move on.

sorry you took it that way....one of the downsides of relying on the written, rather than spoken word. If we were in a room together and I could address the group, it would've sounded different.

_{RT talks with the E8 message boarders about the SJF coaching staff moving on...}

[Jonny Utah]

Pat-

Have you any information on the formation of a SUNY football conference? My alma mater needs to step it's game up and start a football program.

Money should be no object, Cortland spends a ton on football I'm sure - hence, the funds should be approved.

Compared to other schools, I would think Cortland spends very little.  The stadium was a one-time grant.  Remember this is a SUNY school we are talking about.  There's not a lot of funds available to throw at sports.

As far as a SUNY conference goes, I just do not see it happening.  Cortland is pretty happy in the NJAC due to the automatic qualifier.  Brockport, Morrisville, and Buff State fought their way to get in too. 

If there were 7 SUNY football teams, I can see the aforementioned breaking their NJAC ties.  I think it would be great for upstate football to see a SUNY conference.  However...

Maritime has shown no interest in playing its SUNY brothers, with the exception of Morrisville.  And they are apparently joining the NAC with New England based schools.  Me thinks they would rather test themselves against Mount Ida than play Brockport.

Albany and Buffalo are both D1-AA and D-1A respectively.  They aren't moving down.

Binghamton discusses adding football every 10 years or so.  It quickly gets squashed by the gender equity folks.  So they continue to play soccer, drive mini-vans, and hand out orange slices.  My guess is they would be a D1-AA team if they started football anyhow, since they are D1 for their other sports.

Who's left?

Even if Geneseo, or somebody else, started up a program it would only add up to 5 schools potentially willing to play in it.  Nobody is going to leave the NJAC and give up the Pool A/C bid for a Pool B selection and an unfilled schedule.

I would love to know how much Cortland spends compared to Buff St and Brockport.  Do the head coaches get paid the same?  Is there someone in charge of all athletics at the d3 SUNY schools?  Why can't Buff St. get a grant like Cortland for a stadium?

[maninorangehat]

Was the Mets collapse the biggest in baseball history?

Yes.  And Jimmie Rollins is the MVP... as MIOH predicted about 2 months ago when the Mets tailspin begun.  To be honest I'm glad it's over.  There's no sense in giving MIOH the false hope of playoffs when the Metros have been a sub .500 team since the All-Star break.  Nobody on the team showed any stones the last few weeks aside from Paul LoDuca, David Wright, Ramon Castro, Louis Castillo, and Pedro.  Who knows how many of those guys we'll see next year?  Plenty of blame to be tossed around at Shea.

MIOH you scared yet

Get those fisher pics ready.

Pep- Do you have a Brooks report?  Or did you stay cheap and hit the Neptune?

Bring on the Hartwick Posters... they should arrive just in time to take a beating from Alfred. 

Go Bombers
Go Metros in '08