FB: Empire 8

[boobyhasgameyo]

Yeah Myles has his list down to 5 colleges now I heard.  He isn't decided clearly yet but he says it will be a hard decision since they are all so good.  Not a bad problem to have....


1.  USC
2.  Florida
3.  Penn State
4.  Fisher
5.  LSU (if Miles stays)

[theoriginalupstate]

Yeah Myles has his list down to 5 colleges now I heard.  He isn't decided clearly yet but he says it will be a hard decision since they are all so good.  Not a bad problem to have....


1.  USC
2.  Florida
3.  Penn State
4.  Fisher
5.  LSU (if Miles stays)

I heard that he's leaning towards fisher even though  USC has offered him a ride...

Any SJF guys going to the game today?

[BoSox0322]

Found on the SJF student newspaper website....

Football team drops to 10th in nation
By Craig Kanalley
Last Updated:1:52 PM EST 10/2/07 Section: Sports

After losing to unranked Hartwick 31-28 on Saturday, the fifth-ranked Cardinals fell to 10th in the country, according to the latest poll released Sunday by d3football.com.

The only other Empire 8 team currently ranked is Alfred, which moved up to No. 20 from No. 22 after routing Norwich this weekend.

Hartwick only received three votes to be listed in the "Others receiving votes" section.

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Paul Connors
posted 10/02/07 @ 1:49 PM EST
I'm number 92, and I f***ed your s*** up. I blew up your kick return wall "F*** Em!"

Classy response by a Hartwick player posted in an article on the SJF student newspaper website....


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Also Vos's reaction to the play call on the hartwick game can be found on there....

Commentary: Vosburgh's handling of "worst call ever" earns my respect
By Mike Spier
Many people are willing to make excuses for their mistakes but only a few will take sole responsibility for them.

Paul Vosburgh, head coach of the Cardinals' football team, proved that he was one of those select few after the team's 31-28 loss to the Hartwick Hawks.

After a rough first half, Fisher did well in the second half and put themselves in good position. With fourth-and-goal on the three-yard line and 13.5 seconds remaining, the Cardinals had an opportunity to tie the game at 31 with a 20-yard field goal.

In a typical head coaching move, Hawks' head coach Mark Carr called a timeout to "ice" Cardinals' kicker, Kyle Piccirilli.

In an atypical move in that situation, Vosburgh kept the kicking unit on the sideline and sent out the offensive unit with backup quarterback Tommy Hammel at the helm.

Perhaps Vosburgh had in the back of his mind that Piccirilli had missed a 23-yard attempt in the third quarter or that Fisher had converted six of seven fourth downs prior to that final snap. Nevertheless, Hammel took the snap, ran to his left and was tackled almost immediately by a tenacious Hartwick defense. All Hartwick had to do after that was take a knee and celebrate their victory over the fifth-ranked team in the nation.

While the play was being executed, I, and probably everyone else in Wright Stadium, was wondering why Vosburgh wouldn't just go for the tie to enter overtime. A general football rule that coaches tend to follow is that when you are on the road, have a chance to tie with a field goal and enter overtime, you take it.

But Vosburgh didn't, and Fisher lost their first game of the season.

When I approached him for my interview, the only question that immediately popped into my head was, "Why was the decision made to go for it on fourth down?"

His response, word-for-word, was this:

"It was a bad decision. The buck stops right here. I made a poor coaching decision to go for the win instead of putting the tie on the board, and then playing overtime with these guys. I thought that we were outplaying them the second half, but it was just a bad coaching decision."

After the interview, as I was walking away, I heard him say to one of the other coaches that that call was the "worst call that I have ever made."As I finished all of my other interviews and got in my car to ride home from Oneonta it finally hit me how much respect I had for Vosburgh. He could have blamed the loss on any number of things that went against him in that game ... but he didn't. Vosburgh manned up and admitted his call was completely wrong.

In this instance Vosburgh ended up being the "goat," but many might forget that he could've just as easily been the hero with a genius coaching move that won the game 35-31.

Vosburgh's ability to accept responsibility for his mistakes and move on from them is not only a lesson for football, but also a lesson for life. The thing to take from the entire situation is that some lessons are more important than any sport.

I hope thats not true about the Hartwick player writing that .... that gives me douche chillls

[BoSox0322]

I need a pick-me-up from the Saxons tomorrow after the ant-astrophy in Cleveland.  My drive home from Sunday night's game could be really painful if the Yanks get swept.

Anyway, is TCNJ the Hartwick of the NJAC this year?

No.  TCNJ is much better.  Defensively anyway.  they beat Rowan 10-7 tonight. 

So perhaps Hartwick is the TCNJ of the E8.  I'm just trying to draw a parallel between TCNJ's big wins the past two weeks and Wick's wins over IC & SJF.

TCNJ is shutting people down defensively.....

Hartwick is outscoring people and letting their opposition beat themselves....

no Hartwick isn't even out scoring people... they are so far being outscored this year...

come on guy ... give us a little love... i know you got some

[BoSox0322]

Found on the SJF student newspaper website....

Football team drops to 10th in nation
By Craig Kanalley
Last Updated:1:52 PM EST 10/2/07 Section: Sports

After losing to unranked Hartwick 31-28 on Saturday, the fifth-ranked Cardinals fell to 10th in the country, according to the latest poll released Sunday by d3football.com.

The only other Empire 8 team currently ranked is Alfred, which moved up to No. 20 from No. 22 after routing Norwich this weekend.

Hartwick only received three votes to be listed in the "Others receiving votes" section.

Comments 1 - 1 of 1

Paul Connors
posted 10/02/07 @ 1:49 PM EST
I'm number 92, and I f***ed your s*** up. I blew up your kick return wall "F*** Em!"

Classy response by a Hartwick player posted in an article on the SJF student newspaper website....


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Also Vos's reaction to the play call on the hartwick game can be found on there....

Commentary: Vosburgh's handling of "worst call ever" earns my respect
By Mike Spier
Many people are willing to make excuses for their mistakes but only a few will take sole responsibility for them.

Paul Vosburgh, head coach of the Cardinals' football team, proved that he was one of those select few after the team's 31-28 loss to the Hartwick Hawks.

After a rough first half, Fisher did well in the second half and put themselves in good position. With fourth-and-goal on the three-yard line and 13.5 seconds remaining, the Cardinals had an opportunity to tie the game at 31 with a 20-yard field goal.

In a typical head coaching move, Hawks' head coach Mark Carr called a timeout to "ice" Cardinals' kicker, Kyle Piccirilli.

In an atypical move in that situation, Vosburgh kept the kicking unit on the sideline and sent out the offensive unit with backup quarterback Tommy Hammel at the helm.

Perhaps Vosburgh had in the back of his mind that Piccirilli had missed a 23-yard attempt in the third quarter or that Fisher had converted six of seven fourth downs prior to that final snap. Nevertheless, Hammel took the snap, ran to his left and was tackled almost immediately by a tenacious Hartwick defense. All Hartwick had to do after that was take a knee and celebrate their victory over the fifth-ranked team in the nation.

While the play was being executed, I, and probably everyone else in Wright Stadium, was wondering why Vosburgh wouldn't just go for the tie to enter overtime. A general football rule that coaches tend to follow is that when you are on the road, have a chance to tie with a field goal and enter overtime, you take it.







and this section of the article is wrong isnt it the total opposite?  Go for the win on the road overtime at home?

[Jonny Utah]

Not for nothing, but Im gonna say 99% of college coaches are going to accept losing a game like that.

[maninorangehat]

Any game updates thus far?  MIOH is stuck @ work w/ no access to audio or video.

Go Bombers

[lineback]

go bombers, go cubs, go chubbs

[boobyhasgameyo]

Anything at all from the Alfred game?

[superman57]

upstate if you have facebook look up Paul Connors

[gordonmann]

IC up comfortably on Norwich.  Haven't seen any others.

[maninorangehat]

MIOH is checking out Live Stats for the first time... looks like the bombers have committed to the running game today

26 carries for 176  and only 7 passes thus far

This live stats thing is pretty nice!   

[lineback]

norwich is in the red zone for the third time

[maninorangehat]

lineback are you going to the cubs game tonight?

[maxpower]

Any Wick-Alfred update?

BTW, Norwich was just 1st and goal on the 1.... and turned it over on downs at the 3.