FB: Empire 8

[Yanks 99]

I don't agree with this type of arguement...by this standard, 'Wick can say they are 1-1 over the past two seasons against Ithaca and Fisher...which is not a true indication of where the program/team is this year compared to last year...

Your 0-2 on the road this season and your playing at Utica, a team your 2-2 against the past 4 seasons.  I think thats a relative argument.

4 seasons ago...there is maybe one or two players that were in the program 4 seasons ago.  You can argue home vs. away all you like...but you might as well bring up a game played in 1995 with that arguement...

I never said a win 4 seasons ago, I said over the past 4 seasons, which there are still players on the team that lost to Utica the last time they played at Utica. 

Maybe if your coach didnt play so much madden you'd have a legitmate offense that can run and pass.  That will be your downfall vs Springfield.

go bounce a soccer ball off your head....

650 yards of offense I guess isn't legit...

I'm not saying 'Wick will win out...but ask anyone that was at the game yesterday...'Wick can play with any team left on the schedule...

And no thanks...playing with "balls" on my head isn't my thing...

[theoriginalupstate]

I don't agree with this type of arguement...by this standard, 'Wick can say they are 1-1 over the past two seasons against Ithaca and Fisher...which is not a true indication of where the program/team is this year compared to last year...

Your 0-2 on the road this season and your playing at Utica, a team your 2-2 against the past 4 seasons.  I think thats a relative argument.

4 seasons ago...there is maybe one or two players that were in the program 4 seasons ago.  You can argue home vs. away all you like...but you might as well bring up a game played in 1995 with that arguement...

I never said a win 4 seasons ago, I said over the past 4 seasons, which there are still players on the team that lost to Utica the last time they played at Utica. 

Maybe if your coach didnt play so much madden you'd have a legitmate offense that can run and pass.  That will be your downfall vs Springfield.

go bounce a soccer ball off your head....

650 yards of offense I guess isn't legit...

I'm not saying 'Wick will win out...but ask anyone that was at the game yesterday...'Wick can play with any team left on the schedule...

And no thanks...playing with "balls" on my head isn't my thing...

Well maybe if you actually ran the ball and kept AU's offense off the field the result would of been different....

80yds and 3.4 yds per carry is sad....

[Yanks 99]

I don't agree with this type of arguement...by this standard, 'Wick can say they are 1-1 over the past two seasons against Ithaca and Fisher...which is not a true indication of where the program/team is this year compared to last year...

Your 0-2 on the road this season and your playing at Utica, a team your 2-2 against the past 4 seasons.  I think thats a relative argument.

4 seasons ago...there is maybe one or two players that were in the program 4 seasons ago.  You can argue home vs. away all you like...but you might as well bring up a game played in 1995 with that arguement...

I never said a win 4 seasons ago, I said over the past 4 seasons, which there are still players on the team that lost to Utica the last time they played at Utica. 

Maybe if your coach didnt play so much madden you'd have a legitmate offense that can run and pass.  That will be your downfall vs Springfield.

go bounce a soccer ball off your head....

650 yards of offense I guess isn't legit...

I'm not saying 'Wick will win out...but ask anyone that was at the game yesterday...'Wick can play with any team left on the schedule...

And no thanks...playing with "balls" on my head isn't my thing...

Well maybe if you actually ran the ball and kept AU's offense off the field the result would of been different....

80yds and 3.4 yds per carry is sad....

Maybe...could have been a different game if 'Wick had punched it in those 3 times in the first half...could drops in the end zone killed them.

You can use stats both ways.  553 yards passing.  Who cares how you get the yards?  Obviously the coach goes with what works for his team.  3.4 yards per carry...times 3 downs...wow...that gives you 10.2 yards...a first down. 

We got it...you hate the offense. 

[Yanks 99]

Anyone know the time of the Yanks game today?

If Torre gets outcoached again...it may be time to move on.

Can't believe I am saying that...

[boobyhasgameyo]

I don't think it is his fault his pitchers are 48 years old and his best player has some sort of stigma when it comes to post season.  And I'm not even a Yankee's fan. 

[Yanks 99]

I don't think it is his fault his pitchers are 48 years old and his best player has some sort of stigma when it comes to post season.  And I'm not even a Yankee's fan. 

I hear you...my problem is over the last few years, knowing he has older pitching, he refuses to play small ball. 

I love Torre...but it used to kill me at the end of Bernie's career when he would be at bat in the playoffs or against the Sox, hitting .240 on the year, with runners of 1st and 2nd, no outs...and he would continue to let him swing away...usually into a double play.

They need runs...I don't care how you manufacture them.

[theoriginalupstate]

Baseball is by far and away the worst sport in the world...

[Yanks 99]

Baseball is by far and away the worst sport in the world...

My vote is soccer...I would rather have the worst month long hangover then watch even five painful minutes of soccer...

[Boxer7806]

if Hartwicks D every catches up with their O they will run the table the rest of the year... but till then i feel Hartwick will lose to springfield... still rooting for the underdog Hartwick tho

[SJFF82]

I don't agree with this type of arguement...by this standard, 'Wick can say they are 1-1 over the past two seasons against Ithaca and Fisher...which is not a true indication of where the program/team is this year compared to last year...

Your 0-2 on the road this season and your playing at Utica, a team your 2-2 against the past 4 seasons.  I think thats a relative argument.

...but you might as well bring up a game played in 1995 with that arguement...

Fine, I will...it was 1995 at Fisher, the 'Cards were 4-0 at the time and playing Hartwick, who was a relatively bitter rival of SJF at the time.  'Wick has the lead by 1 or 2 with about 40secs. left.  SJF takes the possession at about their own 15 yd line with NO timeouts.  SJF QB Mike Zarillo (Pep may recall that he torched AU that year for 5td's If I recall correctly) calmly, yet frantically leads us down the field with completion after completion until the FG unit comes on and boots the game winner from around 32 yds with 0:00 showing on the clock...what a game.

The rest of that story is that the then 'wick coach teams up with RPI's coach to write a letter to the NCAA launching an investigation into the eligibility status of one of our pre-season All-American offensive lineman, that both 'Wick and RPI had previously heavily recruited from HVCC.  He gets booted from the team and our 7-3 record that year officially goes in the books like this *7-3  (1-9)  Our one sanctioned victory was in the final week against Theil college....oops

[Yanks 99]

I don't agree with this type of arguement...by this standard, 'Wick can say they are 1-1 over the past two seasons against Ithaca and Fisher...which is not a true indication of where the program/team is this year compared to last year...

Your 0-2 on the road this season and your playing at Utica, a team your 2-2 against the past 4 seasons.  I think thats a relative argument.

...but you might as well bring up a game played in 1995 with that arguement...

Fine, I will...it was 1995 at Fisher, the 'Cards were 4-0 at the time and playing Hartwick, who was a relatively bitter rival of SJF at the time.  'Wick has the lead by 1 or 2 with about 40secs. left.  SJF takes the possession at about their own 15 yd line with NO timeouts.  SJF QB Mike Zarillo (Pep may recall that he torched AU that year for 5td's If I recall correctly) calmly, yet frantically leads us down the field with completion after completion until the FG unit comes on and boots the game winner from around 32 yds with 0:00 showing on the clock...what a game.

The rest of that story is that the then 'wick coach teams up with RPI's coach to write a letter to the NCAA launching an investigation into the eligibility status of one of our pre-season All-American offensive lineman, that both 'Wick and RPI had previously heavily recruited from HVCC.  He gets booted from the team and our 7-3 record that year officially goes in the books like this *7-3  (1-9)  Our one sanctioned victory was in the final week against Theil college....oops

Man...that is some sick memory...must have been a great game.  Not a big fan of the whole eligibilty/forfeit numerous games thing.  I understand the need for "law and order" but it seems harsh to fofeit games if one guy, and often times a fairly insignificant guy, is later deemed inelgible.

[Yanks 99]

if Hartwicks D every catches up with their O they will run the table the rest of the year... but till then i feel Hartwick will lose to springfield... still rooting for the underdog Hartwick tho

You may be right.  Where I like Hartwick's chances is that they can score quickly every single possession if they fall behind.  There is no question their defense will have to step up big time.  However, if they get ahead of Springfield early, not a small feat by any stretch of the imagination, how will Springfield's offense be able to adapt.  3 yards and a cloud of dust may hurt their chances.  However, with a guy like Sharpe, they are never out of it.

Some people are talking on here like Springfield is dead...not you Boxer.  They have two losses to undefeated Alfred and a one loss Montclair team.  Still plenty of games left.  The Empire 8 probably won't be decided until literally the last week/game of the season.

[sjfcclimbing]

You can use stats both ways.  553 yards passing.  Who cares how you get the yards?  Obviously the coach goes with what works for his team.  3.4 yards per carry...times 3 downs...wow...that gives you 10.2 yards...a first down. 

Not to take anything away from Wick but surprised that AU gave up over 600 yards at home. It will make it very tough for them to run the gaunlet at the end of their season - traveling.

Love football but 1.5 hours delay, downpour and 45 to 7 is really a test of a fan. Glad SJFC does not have any more night games, Kramer looked good.

[theoriginalupstate]

Kramer really needed that game, his play hasnt lived up to expectations and that game (hopefully) is just the thing needed to give him a boost for the stretch run.

It was nice to see him connect on those deep passes to Smith, before then his timing seemed to be off and was over/under throwing recievers....

[boobyhasgameyo]

I don't agree with this type of arguement...by this standard, 'Wick can say they are 1-1 over the past two seasons against Ithaca and Fisher...which is not a true indication of where the program/team is this year compared to last year...

Your 0-2 on the road this season and your playing at Utica, a team your 2-2 against the past 4 seasons.  I think thats a relative argument.

...but you might as well bring up a game played in 1995 with that arguement...

Fine, I will...it was 1995 at Fisher, the 'Cards were 4-0 at the time and playing Hartwick, who was a relatively bitter rival of SJF at the time.  'Wick has the lead by 1 or 2 with about 40secs. left.  SJF takes the possession at about their own 15 yd line with NO timeouts.  SJF QB Mike Zarillo (Pep may recall that he torched AU that year for 5td's If I recall correctly) calmly, yet frantically leads us down the field with completion after completion until the FG unit comes on and boots the game winner from around 32 yds with 0:00 showing on the clock...what a game.

The rest of that story is that the then 'wick coach teams up with RPI's coach to write a letter to the NCAA launching an investigation into the eligibility status of one of our pre-season All-American offensive lineman, that both 'Wick and RPI had previously heavily recruited from HVCC.  He gets booted from the team and our 7-3 record that year officially goes in the books like this *7-3  (1-9)  Our one sanctioned victory was in the final week against Theil college....oops

See that's exactly what I'm talking about, I want to know more about Fisher in the 90's.  I knew they had some decent teams sprinkled in there, do you know where I can find any of the information SJFF82?