FB: Empire 8

[SJFF82]

Just ask me, and I will tell all ; not sure where any of the info is of actual paper or on-line record, but in all seriousness, ask me and I can probably give you a good idea.

From 92-95 for example, our record was 21-16 (other than the *in '95)
We had very solid teams in 93, 94 and 95.  Some big wins were against a ranked RPI team in '93; and a very good Catholic team in '95.  We could never get over the hump against some good B-port teams and very good Buff St teams.  In '94, we lost at B-port after leading by two scores with less than 5 min to go...and the ball (a lot like the '04 Del Val play-off game), and in '95 at 6-0 and ranked 4 in the East, we give up a kick-off return to B-port with 2 min to go at home and lose.

[FisherAlum05]

I know its still early to be talking playoffs and the AQ, but I was looking at the remaining conference games.  Its not too far fetched to think that, just maybe, their might be a 3-way tie for the conference title. 

If Hartwick wins out, they will finish 8-2 (5-1)
If Alfred's only loss is to Fisher, they will finish 9-1 (5-1)
And If Fisher wins out, they will finish 9-1 (5-1)

Somebody tell me, has this ever happened before, and how would the tie-breaker go?  It can't be a head-to-head situation can it?  Since all three teams but eachother (Hartwick beat Fisher, Alfred beat Hartwick, Fisher beats Alfred).  I'm assuming it has something to do with points scored. 

That would be a crazy finish.  BUT, this is all assuming Hartwick can take care of business against SC, Fisher can beat Alfred which will be tough, and Alfred can get through Hobart and Ithaca at 9-0.

Somebody enlighten me on what will happen in the event of this 3-way tie situation.

[FisherAlum05]

Pat,

With regards to my last post, do you know anything about these types of situations.  Or how the E8 would determine the AQ?

If this does happen it would be a shame, because someone is getting left out of the big dance.  I'll bet it would be Hartwick IMHO.

[boobyhasgameyo]

So basically for a program that started about 15 years ago, we've had about 9 solid winning seasons and 3 or 4 terrible ones.  It just seems like we were dogged so bad a few years ago before we started to become really good when in actuality for a new program we were doing well.  

[theoriginalupstate]

I think the conference tie breakers are listed on the E8 website...

[msarge7]

The 4 1/2 hour trip to Merrill Field yesterday (returning home the same day) was well worth it.  Great game, great weather, great victory!  Someone posted earlier in the week that 'Wick tries outscore people and let the other team beat themselves.  AU turned the ball over 4 times and almost made that prophecy come true.  Boltus was very impressive!  When AU went into zone coverage he hit any number of recievers underneath.  When AU played man coverage he went up the field( 98? yard TD to a slot reciever).  I was also impressed with Boltus' toughness.  He was "jacked up" a couple of times in the game and after sitting a couple of plays he was back on the field.  I've been able to see 2 AU games this year (Springfield earlier in the season).  I would have to say that both opponents have somewhat unconventional offenses.  Springfield couldn't throw to save their lives and Hartwick can't run to save their lives.  And neither of them are going to try much.  That's just the way they do things.  AU dominated Springfield. If Hartwick can score early and get a lead the Springfield-Hartwick results may be similar to the AU-Springfield game.

[boobyhasgameyo]

yeah i was just going to say it, it does show it on the E8 website

[maninyellowhat]

Pat,

With regards to my last post, do you know anything about these types of situations.  Or how the E8 would determine the AQ?

If this does happen it would be a shame, because someone is getting left out of the big dance.  I'll bet it would be Hartwick IMHO.

1. Head-to-Head results.
2. Results vs. lowest ranked conference teams (7th, 6th, 5th, etc) based
on final season standings.
3. Results versus common non-league opponents
4. The team's overall strength of schedule index (as determined by the
NCAA procedure used at the completion of the season)
5. Overall record

[boobyhasgameyo]

Seriously Fisher guys keep saying what will happen if we can beat Alfred and then have these teams at 5-1.......Springfield isn't terrible this year, I really don't think they are as bad as that Alfred loss would suggest, I just think Alfred really had their number that day.  Plus we have to go to Springfield.  Not going to be an automatic W. 

[fan of d3]

I know its still early to be talking playoffs and the AQ, but I was looking at the remaining conference games.  Its not too far fetched to think that, just maybe, their might be a 3-way tie for the conference title. 

If Hartwick wins out, they will finish 8-2 (5-1)
If Alfred's only loss is to Fisher, they will finish 9-1 (5-1)
And If Fisher wins out, they will finish 9-1 (5-1)

Somebody tell me, has this ever happened before, and how would the tie-breaker go?  It can't be a head-to-head situation can it?  Since all three teams but eachother (Hartwick beat Fisher, Alfred beat Hartwick, Fisher beats Alfred).  I'm assuming it has something to do with points scored. 

That would be a crazy finish.  BUT, this is all assuming Hartwick can take care of business against SC, Fisher can beat Alfred which will be tough, and Alfred can get through Hobart and Ithaca at 9-0.

Somebody enlighten me on what will happen in the event of this 3-way tie situation.

Pretty confident that sjf will run through SC?  SJF posters keep mentioning the scenario of wick alred and sjf tied but dont you still have to play SC which beat you last year and lost by 1 score in the playoffs?

[boobyhasgameyo]

See when I say it is sounds humble and modest, I don't get that same vibe when you post the exact same statement moments after me. 

[fan of d3]

thats fine

[theoriginalupstate]

SJF is undefeated on the road vs SC, that includes going in there during the playoffs and shutting down their offense.....

[fan of d3]

wasnt the score 27-20?? i dunno if that means shutting down their offense.  Looks like they shut yours down too then?  its a silly argument. They went into your place and score 56.  I think you're overly confident. But hey, to each his own

[boobyhasgameyo]

Yes again you scored 56 points when we had 3 of our top defensive starters out for that game, but that 56 was an anomaly as the rest of the games you played Fisher you scored 24, 21, and 14.  All Fisher wins.  But hey to each his own.