FB: Empire 8

[Jonny Utah]

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

True, but

1) The Yankees still have more money than the Red Sox and have proved that they can outbid them, and waste more money than them.

2) The Yankees are still always the #1 highest payroll in the league, and are usually tens of millions ahead of the red sox.....

So unitll the Sox can catch up, the money is still an advantage for the yankees.

[lewdogg11]

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

True, but

1) The Yankees still have more money than the Red Sox and have proved that they can outbid them, and waste more money than them.

2) The Yankees are still always the #1 highest payroll in the league, and are usually tens of millions ahead of the red sox.....

So unitll the Sox can catch up, the money is still an advantage for the yankees.

How much do you think they'll give Clemens next year???

[maxpower]

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

I don't whine about their payroll.  I actually enjoy seeing them spend all that money with no return on investment.

Well... four WS titles in 11 years isn't bad, much less four in five. If merely doing poorly with a huge payroll in one isolated year is no return on investment, I refer you to Boston's 2006 season, as well as most seasons that began with a "19".

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

True, but

1) The Yankees still have more money than the Red Sox and have proved that they can outbid them, and waste more money than them.

2) The Yankees are still always the #1 highest payroll in the league, and are usually tens of millions ahead of the red sox.....

So unitll the Sox can catch up, the money is still an advantage for the yankees.

True, but at that fraction it's not a huge advantage. In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290. At this point I consider the Yankees and the Sox pretty much even. As far as proving about wasted money... well has Dice-K been a pitcher worth $50 mil just to talk to? Especially for a pitcher that has thrown, at his age, maybe more innings than anyone in history? (Yeah, insert Kei Igawa joke here. Still shuddering.)


EDIT: I meant Bostons' 2006 season was the bad one. In 05 they at least made the playoffs.

[lewdogg11]

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

I don't whine about their payroll.  I actually enjoy seeing them spend all that money with no return on investment.

Well... four WS titles in 11 years isn't bad, much less four in five. If merely doing poorly with a huge payroll in one isolated year is no return on investment, I refer you to Boston's 2005 season, as well as most seasons that began with a "19".

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

True, but

1) The Yankees still have more money than the Red Sox and have proved that they can outbid them, and waste more money than them.

2) The Yankees are still always the #1 highest payroll in the league, and are usually tens of millions ahead of the red sox.....

So unitll the Sox can catch up, the money is still an advantage for the yankees.

True, but at that fraction it's not a huge advantage. In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290. At this point I consider the Yankees and the Sox pretty much even. As far as proving about wasted money... well has Dice-K been a pitcher worth $50 mil just to talk to? Especially for a pitcher that has thrown, at his age, maybe more innings than anyone in history? (Yeah, insert Kei Igawa joke here. Still shuddering.)

Those teams in the 90's weren't really purchased teams.  Everyone on those teams, all I can see them in are Yankee uniforms.  The team now, not so much. 

And come on with the low blow of 2005.  It's not like the team just tanked like the Mets.  There were so many injuries and illnesses, and cancer and whatever else.  More just badfortune than a let down.

[maxpower]

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

I don't whine about their payroll.  I actually enjoy seeing them spend all that money with no return on investment.

Well... four WS titles in 11 years isn't bad, much less four in five. If merely doing poorly with a huge payroll in one isolated year is no return on investment, I refer you to Boston's 2005 season, as well as most seasons that began with a "19".

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

True, but

1) The Yankees still have more money than the Red Sox and have proved that they can outbid them, and waste more money than them.

2) The Yankees are still always the #1 highest payroll in the league, and are usually tens of millions ahead of the red sox.....

So unitll the Sox can catch up, the money is still an advantage for the yankees.

True, but at that fraction it's not a huge advantage. In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290. At this point I consider the Yankees and the Sox pretty much even. As far as proving about wasted money... well has Dice-K been a pitcher worth $50 mil just to talk to? Especially for a pitcher that has thrown, at his age, maybe more innings than anyone in history? (Yeah, insert Kei Igawa joke here. Still shuddering.)

Those teams in the 90's weren't really purchased teams.  Everyone on those teams, all I can see them in are Yankee uniforms.  The team now, not so much. 

And come on with the low blow of 2005.  It's not like the team just tanked like the Mets.  There were so many injuries and illnesses, and cancer and whatever else.  More just badfortune than a let down.

What does them being "homegrown" have to do with their salaries? We spent $20 mil a year on Derek Jeter for God's sake. I love Jeter, but that's way more than he's worth.

You could also argue that "badfortune" thing about any of the Yankees' recent playoff exits. Instead people seem to blame it on A-Rod being a bad person or something. And please stop with the "true Yankee" BS. I get sick enough of that from Yankees fans. Any person that would rather have Scott Brosius than A-Rod at the plate, in any situation, is a hopelessly misinformed baseball fan.

[AUKaz00]

...or 3) 'Wick posters: why you lost to a team from an inferior conference or 4) AU posters:  what the record of the Pepband's opponents opponents are...
No other posts are allowed unless Sharpe is passing the ball to himself

AU Pep Band's opponents' opponents had no contests.

But 82, to be honest, not really catching your drift on this. Explain.

We were all over that lone UofR trumpeter in the ECAC bowl last year and we took down the Norwich marching band.  Those are two strong opponents with very high national ranking!

[Jonny Utah]

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

I don't whine about their payroll.  I actually enjoy seeing them spend all that money with no return on investment.

Well... four WS titles in 11 years isn't bad, much less four in five. If merely doing poorly with a huge payroll in one isolated year is no return on investment, I refer you to Boston's 2005 season, as well as most seasons that began with a "19".

And memo to all Boston fans: whining about the Yankees payroll looks pretty ****ty to fans of teams like Pittsburgh, Florida, Oakland etc. That should really never be used by you guys as any kind of excuse/derision.

True, but

1) The Yankees still have more money than the Red Sox and have proved that they can outbid them, and waste more money than them.

2) The Yankees are still always the #1 highest payroll in the league, and are usually tens of millions ahead of the red sox.....

So unitll the Sox can catch up, the money is still an advantage for the yankees.

True, but at that fraction it's not a huge advantage. In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290. At this point I consider the Yankees and the Sox pretty much even. As far as proving about wasted money... well has Dice-K been a pitcher worth $50 mil just to talk to? Especially for a pitcher that has thrown, at his age, maybe more innings than anyone in history? (Yeah, insert Kei Igawa joke here. Still shuddering.)

Those teams in the 90's weren't really purchased teams.  Everyone on those teams, all I can see them in are Yankee uniforms.  The team now, not so much. 

And come on with the low blow of 2005.  It's not like the team just tanked like the Mets.  There were so many injuries and illnesses, and cancer and whatever else.  More just badfortune than a let down.

yea but when Jeters first contract is up, they can afford to keep him and others.  Most teams cant do that.  

[Jonny Utah]

And the sox and yanks are pretty much even, but my two points are true to an extent.....

Dice-K isnt worth what he is getting paid (like you say no one really is), but if the yanks could go back in time they would still pay him what the sox did.  (myth that they paid all that money, most of the original price was negged down after the signing...

[bombsquad47]

alfred ithaca game? any takers?  guarantee bombers will show up to play, keeley throws 3-4 picks, 2 of which get taken to the house by stephens and terlecki...get some

[lewdogg11]

What does them being "homegrown" have to do with their salaries? We spent $20 mil a year on Derek Jeter for God's sake. I love Jeter, but that's way more than he's worth.

You could also argue that "badfortune" thing about any of the Yankees' recent playoff exits. Instead people seem to blame it on A-Rod being a bad person or something. And please stop with the "true Yankee" BS. I get sick enough of that from Yankees fans. Any person that would rather have Scott Brosius than A-Rod at the plate, in any situation, is a hopelessly misinformed baseball fan.

I don't know man, i'll take Bird, McHale, DJ, Ainge, the Chief, and the rest of the gang, before Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett any day.  Brosius, Paul Oneil, Bernie, Tino, and those guys, really took on the persona of the Yankees.  A-Rod, as talented as he is, has never looked comfortable in the uniform...maybe because he's a much better shortstop than Jeter, but that's neither here nor there.

[Pat Coleman]

In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290.

It's amazing, really, that the Red Sox get to play in that stadium but the dimensions change when the opponents bat.

[lewdogg11]

In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290.

It's amazing, really, that the Red Sox get to play in that stadium but the dimensions change when the opponents bat.

Those dimensions really helped them a lot too for 86 years.  I don't think Aaron Boone or Bucky Dent even had warning track power at Yankee stadium, but somehow, they have some of the most notable HRs in the history of Fenway.

[maxpower]

In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290.

It's amazing, really, that the Red Sox get to play in that stadium but the dimensions change when the opponents bat.

Pat, are you denying that teams tailor their teams to their stadiums and vice versa? Why do you think the "House that Ruth Built" has a short porch in right? PETCO Park changed its dimensions MID CONSTRUCTION when the Pads acquired Brian Giles, and now there's a little jut-out in right. Why do you think Derek Lowe was so successful in Fenway? What about the Cubs and Red Sox never having incredible pitching staffs the whole 20th century, and also never winning a WS playing in extreme hitter's parks?

Also, the Red Sox play at least 59 more games in that park, per year, than any of their opponents.

[maxpower]

In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290.

It's amazing, really, that the Red Sox get to play in that stadium but the dimensions change when the opponents bat.

Those dimensions really helped them a lot too for 86 years.  I don't think Aaron Boone or Bucky Dent even had warning track power at Yankee stadium, but somehow, they have some of the most notable HRs in the history of Fenway.

You should revise your post to make it contain factual information. I don't remember Aaron Boone hitting any big home runs in Fenway....

[lewdogg11]

In fact, one could say it's as much an advantage of playing all home games in a stadium where one line is 310 and the other is much less than its posted 290.

It's amazing, really, that the Red Sox get to play in that stadium but the dimensions change when the opponents bat.

Those dimensions really helped them a lot too for 86 years.  I don't think Aaron Boone or Bucky Dent even had warning track power at Yankee stadium, but somehow, they have some of the most notable HRs in the history of Fenway.

You should revise your post to make it contain factual information. I don't remember Aaron Boone hitting any big home runs in Fenway....

Ahhhh sh*t.  Busted.  I'm in class right now...Didn't think that one out too well...