FB: Empire 8

[superman57]

wow...this could end up really wacky..but pat the great prognosticator, if Fisher, Alfred and Hartwick all end up with 1 E8 loss and Wick indeed does get the AQ, what are the chances that both Fisher and Alfred get a pool c... I mean if Fisher wins out they would be probably a top 5 team...if Alfred wins out I can still see them around 12...

If Alfred wins out, implying they beat Fisher, you don't think they would move up from 12?

that was worded wrong...meaning if Alfred beats Ithaca and Hobart but loses to Fisher...because if the fighting freds beat fisher than there is no aq questions

[sjfcards]

Can Alfred take care of IC and Hobart to set up a great match up at Growney?

It sure would make things a lot more fun if AU can take care of IC. Of course I would not mind if AU lost to IC, and Hartwick lost to SC. It would help my blood pressure anyway. Having said all that, how much fun would a game between a 9-0 AU, and a 8-1 Fisher, with everything on the line be. That is just better for everyone involved don't you think?

Have we officially determined who gets the AQ if Hartwick, Fisher, and AU all end up with one loss? I feel like Fisher really controls its own fate. If they win out, they should be in regardless of the AQ, but that does make life easier.

Should be a fun couple of weeks...GO FISHER

[chris7sarge]

Hobart is gonna be a tough game at their place.
AU's group of leaders have won at Growney before.
I think AT IC is gonna be a real tough game.
I'm just really anxious about these last 3 weeks.  I dont think I ever got nervous as a player, but I am genuinely nervous now.  We gotta win at least 2 outta the last 3, against very good teams, all away.  It's too bad that this isnt like Madden and I could just play all 3 games today.

[admirals_vt]

Can Alfred take care of IC and Hobart to set up a great match up at Growney?

It sure would make things a lot more fun if AU can take care of IC. Of course I would not mind if AU lost to IC, and Hartwick lost to SC. It would help my blood pressure anyway. Having said all that, how much fun would a game between a 9-0 AU, and a 8-1 Fisher, with everything on the line be. That is just better for everyone involved don't you think?

Have we officially determined who gets the AQ if Hartwick, Fisher, and AU all end up with one loss? I feel like Fisher really controls its own fate. If they win out, they should be in regardless of the AQ, but that does make life easier.

Should be a fun couple of weeks...GO FISHER

Hartwick. But to me the more likely scenario is:

1. AU wins out beating SJF, getting the AQ.
2. SJF ends with 2 losses overall.
3. 'wick wins out and also has 2 losses overall.
4. At that point I believe SOS would only be one of many factors determining a pool C and even though I'm a Hartwick fan, based on the overall body of work inluding rankings and past success SJF gets Pool C and 'wick gets ECAC bowl.
5. Considering where they came from Hartwick and its fans would be very happy with the ECAC bid.

[sjfcards]

Thanks for the info...

So Hartwick gets the bid if all teams end up with one loss. What is the tie breaker? Wow, what a shame it would be if Hartwick wins out, Fisher wins out, and AU beats IC and Hobart. If Hartwick has the AQ, and it comes down to AU and Fisher, both with one loss, who gets the at large bid.

Both teams will be ranked pretty high in the rankings, and Fisher would have beaten AU, but with AU's body of work, how can you leave them out. One loss to a top ten team...that is a pretty good resume. Maybe 3 Empire 8 teams with the LL being a little bit down this year?

[superman57]

if it indeed does work out that way I can see Fisher and Alfred getting in, as long as it's RPI that wins the LL...if Union wins then RPI will be in contention for that pool c as well, but remember the NJAC is strong as well

[admirals_vt]

The loser of this weeks Cortland NJ game will have 2 overall losses and I'd be willing to bet a third place E8 team with only 2 overall losses would get the nod over either of those two.

What are NJ and C St's SOS numbers?

[admirals_vt]

Actually I just went and looked up my own question.

NJ - 7

Cort - 199

I guess we know who we're rooting for this weekend in that game.

[boobyhasgameyo]

Can Alfred take care of IC and Hobart to set up a great match up at Growney?

It sure would make things a lot more fun if AU can take care of IC. Of course I would not mind if AU lost to IC, and Hartwick lost to SC. It would help my blood pressure anyway. Having said all that, how much fun would a game between a 9-0 AU, and a 8-1 Fisher, with everything on the line be. That is just better for everyone involved don't you think?

Have we officially determined who gets the AQ if Hartwick, Fisher, and AU all end up with one loss? I feel like Fisher really controls its own fate. If they win out, they should be in regardless of the AQ, but that does make life easier.

Should be a fun couple of weeks...GO FISHER

Hartwick. But to me the more likely scenario is:

1. AU wins out beating SJF, getting the AQ.
2. SJF ends with 2 losses overall.
3. 'wick wins out and also has 2 losses overall.
4. At that point I believe SOS would only be one of many factors determining a pool C and even though I'm a Hartwick fan, based on the overall body of work inluding rankings and past success SJF gets Pool C and 'wick gets ECAC bowl.
5. Considering where they came from Hartwick and its fans would be very happy with the ECAC bid.

If Alfred beats Ithaca and Fisher winning the AQ then there is a 99% chance Fisher won't get a pool C and about 100% chance Hartwick won't, even if Hartwick wins out.

[FisherAlum05]

Everything is so screwed up in the East this year.  Anything can happen.  IF:

Hartwick gets the AQ
Fisher finishes 9-1 and beats Alfred
Alfred finishes 9-1 with a loss to Fisher

...then I would think either Fisher or Alfred might get left out.  I would love to see the E8 get three teams in this scenario but it would be tough.  Has an East region conference ever had 3 teams in the NCAA's??

Like someone said, it all depends on the LL and NJAC.  If RPI finishes undefeated, then they get the lone bid from the LL (assuming Hobart loses to AU).  I think the winner of the Cortland - New Jersey game gets the lone bid from the NJAC.

So maybe the E8 does get three teams.  If Hartwick does get the AQ, and Fisher and AU finish 9-1, it would be a shame if someone gets left out.

[SJFF82]

Everything is so screwed up in the East this year.  Anything can happen.  IF:

Hartwick gets the AQ
Fisher finishes 9-1 and beats Alfred
Alfred finishes 9-1 with a loss to Fisher

...then I would think either Fisher or Alfred might get left out.  I would love to see the E8 get three teams in this scenario but it would be tough.  Has an East region conference ever had 3 teams in the NCAA's??

Like someone said, it all depends on the LL and NJAC.  If RPI finishes undefeated, then they get the lone bid from the LL (assuming Hobart loses to AU).  I think the winner of the Cortland - New Jersey game gets the lone bid from the NJAC.

So maybe the E8 does get three teams.  If Hartwick does get the AQ, and Fisher and AU finish 9-1, it would be a shame if someone gets left out.

I think sonebody referred to it in a prior post, but in the scenario you describe above, with 'Wick as the AQ and SJF and AU at 9-1, AU could unfortunately be this year's Cortland who clearly got snubbed last year...

I bet AU loves all this 'talk' that presumes an SJF victory in the season finale

[FisherAlum05]

You're right SJFF82.  We still have to beat Utica and AU before any of this happens.  No easy task beating AU but I think it can be done.  Were gonna see just how good AU is in the next 3 weeks.  They really haven't played anybody yet (they did beat Hartwick).  I think the Hobart and IC games will be a good measuring stick for AU.

[pg04]

I would be very shocked to see an Eastern Conference get 3 teams in, but I guess it's possible. 

This is how I see the 8 teams in the east, if Hartwick somehow won the AQ and Fisher had beat Alfred (this is not in any seeding order)..

NEFC Champion (Curry)
NJAC Champion (TCNJ/Cortland)
E8 Champion (Alfred/Fisher/Hartwick)
LL Champion (Union/RPI/U of R)
MAC Champion(Albright/Widener/Del Val)
Out of Region Team (Muhlenberg --- If so, in this scenario might end up as 1 seed)
Pool C team (RPI/Fisher/Cortland/Alfred/TCNJ/Hartwick)
Pool C Team (Same as above)

[superman57]

so Soopah just did what would be a 2006 NCAA playoff and it had California beating Auburn for the championship

[superman57]

so Soopah just did what would be a 2006 NCAA playoff and it had California beating Auburn for the championship

ok just did it again and Ohio State beat Michigan