FB: Empire 8

[pg04]

Right now all that matters is that they got the victory, really without any help from the Quarterback sans the big throw to Evans. 

For the sake of consistency, I hope they keep Edwards in now so that he can at least develop. 

[Frank Rossi]

I know that sometimes I post on here and sound moody and bitchy.  But all these numbers- they hurt my head.  Being an AU fan, I dont really care about any of the numbers.  There is only one factor that you need to know- just win.  If you do that, you're in.  SOS and OOC and SQ's, and AQ's and STDs, they dont mean anything if you win, except for that last one.  That matters.

Good point Sarge.  I too hope that AU can just keep winning and all of these numbers are worthless.  However, for us dataheads, trying to make sense off all the permutations is actually quite enjoyable.  Plus it helps to eliminate all of the misinformation and confusion about what the ifs.

Taking that a step further, it also allows us to test the NCAA's new toy (SoS criterion) to see how it may/may not be a good indicator of teams' relative strengths.  I pointed out the King's issue in the SJF numbers because it seems somewhat disingenuous to have King's tug on SJF's SoS soo heavily, especially if they finish 0-10.  I think we could argue, by merely looking at the OOC opponents that Alfred has one quality opponent (Hobart), two moderate opponents (Thiel and SLU) and one low-to-moderate opponent (Husson).  On the other hand, SJF has arguably two quality opponents (Buff. St. and Brockport), one moderate opponent (Rochester) and one low-to-moderate opponent (King's).  Yet, King's could make the difference and sink SJF.

I think Husson doesn't get enough credit because of the age of their program.  I know the score doesn't reflect it, but Husson was definitely the best defense that Alfred has faced so far this year.  I would be more inclined to put Husson in the "moderate opponent" category and move both Thiel and SLU down to the "low-to-moderate opponent" category.  

I do understand your point however and that's what leads me to believe that the OOWP should be calculated in to SoS.  Double weighting of OWP to OOWP makes the most sense and is still quite easy to calculate.

Husson's schedule and location generally beat them down -- but since we agree on the general premise, I think that we see that the SoS Index is a bit of a joke right now.

[AUKaz00]

A joke whose punchline is at your rival's expense is funnier than if it's at yours!

Anyway, I'm off to Albany for a conference.  Good work on the E8PP boards this afternoon everyone.

[superman57]

Kaz... how long are you in Albany for...

[pg04]

A joke whose punchline is at your rival's expense is funnier than if it's at yours!

Anyway, I'm off to Albany for a conference.  Good work on the E8PP boards this afternoon everyone.

Hopefully somebody votes in the Fan poll this week!  I haven't seen JU in a while either...

[maxpower]

The Bills are so awesome.

Why am I never on the boards when someone gives a +k round? Is there a corollation there?

[pg04]

The Bills are so awesome.

Why am I never on the boards when someone gives a +k round? Is there a corollation there?

Somehow I lost K in the giving out of K...so it could be worse. 

[boobyhasgameyo]

The Bills are so awesome.

Why am I never on the boards when someone gives a +k round? Is there a corollation there?

Max I signed on just to give you some karma dap because I know how it feels to miss out on the free karma lovin' sessions.

Enjoy the Karma, drink it in.....It always goes down smooth

[boobyhasgameyo]

Pat can I get the orangish colored stars under my name like the administrators have, or maybe a sweet blue....I just dare to be different 

[superman57]

ok I've been bored and found a great site that you can do a tourny with the NCAA teams so I decided to take last years final NCAA rankings 1-32 and create a tourney here are the first round match ups


1.Ohio State 45
32. Maryland 32

16. Rutgers 20
17. Tennessee 29

8. USC 28
25. TCU 14

9. Boise State  28
24. Oregon State 24

5. Louisville 16
28. Hawaii 29

12. Arkansas 19
21. Texas AM 16

4. LSU 17
29. Houston 8

13. West Virginia 15
20. California 3

6. Wisconsin 15
27. Georgia Tech 19

11. Notre Dame 10
22. Nebraska 26

3. Michigan 10
30. Penn State 11

14. Virginia Tech 16
19. BYU 34

7. Oklahoma 36
26. Georgia 26

10. Auburn 16
23. Boston College 30

1.   Florida 17
31. South Florida 20

15. Wake Forest 24
18. Texas 36

SECOND ROUND

Ohio State 28
Tennessee 14

Boise State 30
USC 19

Hawaii 19
Arkansas 15

LSU 27
WVU 36

Georgia Tech 19
Nebraska 35

Penn State 16
BYU  14

Oklahoma 24
Boston College 20

South Florida 19
Texas 34

Third Round

Ohio State 11
Boise State 20

Hawaii 21
WVU 32

Nebraska 22
Penn St. 26

Oklahoma 24
Texas 28

FINAL FOUR


Boise St. 14
WVU 7

Penn St. 27
Texas 29

BCS CHAMPIONSHIP

Boise State 21
Texas 34

National Champion-Texas

[FisherAlum05]

I'm going the route of Sarge for the rest of this season.  For the last couple weeks,  I have gotten caught up in the talk about tie-breakers, AQ's, and pool C bids.  I guess its cause I'm worried about it.
But, if Fisher wins out I know they will be in so LETS JUST WIN CARDINALS.  No more talk about scenarios from me. 

[superman57]

ok so I ran the program 9 more times to total 10

2.   Florida
3.   Florida
4.   Texas
5.   Nebraska
6.   BYU
7.   Ohio State over Florida
8.   California
9.   LSU
10.   Florida

So Florida won 3 times
Texas won 2

Nebraska, BYU, OSU California and LSU all won...though Cal was in a lot of the games

[superman57]

hello                             Hello                                Hello                                      Hello                        Hello

[pg04]

I think we were so not interested by your posts that we had nothing to comment. 

[FisherAlum05]

yeah.  not too interested in a make believe NCAA D-1 fantasy football tournament.  Fact is, that there will never be a tournament at the D-1 level because of the revenue earned in bowl games.  If there were a tournament, they wouldn't be able to control who plays who and thats the main problem.