FB: Empire 8

[dewcrew88]

Are we sure a coach at the D3 level can be fired soley based on his on field performance (record)?  I dont think he can... if he resigned obviously thats different.

Sure a coach can be fired for on field performance.  It is college football.  Honestly, I know some people inside the program and have personal friends that played at Utica.  I've heard some things that are quite worrisome.  At Fisher, the players police themselves.  No drinking during the week, only saturday nights after games.  No drugs, go to classes, etc.  If rules are broken, the players on the unity council decide the consequences.  At Utica, its much different.  My friends, whom both started at Utica for 2 years, did whatever they wanted whenever they wanted.  Drinking everynight, even the night before games.  Never went to class, got kicked off campus, etc. 

Until some discipline is adopted by the players, it will be hard to change things.  A new coach is probably exactly what they need. 

DewCrew, I know your an alum so dont take anything I just said personally.  Just some things I've heard.

I always remember it being pretty policed not only from a coaches standpoint, but also from a player's standpoint also. I wasn't big into the party scene, so maybe it was different for me, but I know that guys didn't want to let their teammates down because they weren't focused on the game at hand... I do know that Saturday nights were the big nights to go out, after games, and you would definitely hear rumblings on campus about how the football team could go out and party after getting blown out 66-0 (for example), but you know what? I don't think anyone should have a problem with that part.
Guys went to class, did everything they had to do to be a part of a growing team.
Maybe the culture changed in the last few years.
I really don't know.

[dewcrew88]

Are we sure a coach at the D3 level can be fired soley based on his on field performance (record)?  I dont think he can... if he resigned obviously thats different.

What special protection would a D3 coach enjoy preventing his termination?  This is America.  You can fire an employee for any reason you damn well please.

Sure a coach can be fired for on field performance.  It is college football.  Honestly, I know some people inside the program and have personal friends that played at Utica.  I've heard some things that are quite worrisome.  At Fisher, the players police themselves.  No drinking during the week, only saturday nights after games.  No drugs, go to classes, etc.  If rules are broken, the players on the unity council decide the consequences.  At Utica, its much different.  My friends, whom both started at Utica for 2 years, did whatever they wanted whenever they wanted.  Drinking everynight, even the night before games.  Never went to class, got kicked off campus, etc. 

Until some discipline is adopted by the players, it will be hard to change things.  A new coach is probably exactly what they need. 

DewCrew, I know your an alum so dont take anything I just said personally.  Just some things I've heard.

This made me spit out water.  The Unity Council?  Seriously?  Hysterical.  Do they wear hooded black robes and light their meeting room with torches?

All I could think of when I heard "Unity Council" was the scene from Animal House when they are doing the initations. (sp?)

"I, state your name..."

When I played, the captains were the main people who decided what to do... no council involved.

[Knightstalker]

Are we sure a coach at the D3 level can be fired soley based on his on field performance (record)?  I dont think he can... if he resigned obviously thats different.

What special protection would a D3 coach enjoy preventing his termination?  This is America.  You can fire an employee for any reason you damn well please.

Sure a coach can be fired for on field performance.  It is college football.  Honestly, I know some people inside the program and have personal friends that played at Utica.  I've heard some things that are quite worrisome.  At Fisher, the players police themselves.  No drinking during the week, only saturday nights after games.  No drugs, go to classes, etc.  If rules are broken, the players on the unity council decide the consequences.  At Utica, its much different.  My friends, whom both started at Utica for 2 years, did whatever they wanted whenever they wanted.  Drinking everynight, even the night before games.  Never went to class, got kicked off campus, etc. 

Until some discipline is adopted by the players, it will be hard to change things.  A new coach is probably exactly what they need. 

DewCrew, I know your an alum so dont take anything I just said personally.  Just some things I've heard.

This made me spit out water.  The Unity Council?  Seriously?  Hysterical.  Do they wear hooded black robes and light their meeting room with torches?

All I could think of when I heard "Unity Council" was the scene from Animal House when they are doing the initations. (sp?)

"I, state your name..."

THANK YOU SIR, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!

[JQV]

+k to DC and KS for being on my wavelength.

[fisheralum91]

are u guys playing cards?

[JQV]

are u guys playing cards?

+k

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

[chris7sarge]

are u guys playing cards?

+k

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Nice!

Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?!

[theoriginalupstate]

NCAA Regional Rankings are out....

1.  Alfred  7-0  7-0
2.  Curry  8-0  8-0
3.  Rensselaer  6-0  6-0
4.  St. John Fisher  7-1  7-1
5.  The College of New Jersey  6-1  6-1
6.  Albright  6-1  6-1
7.  Cortland State  5-1  6-1
8.  Union (New York)  4-2  4-2
9.  Hobart  5-2  5-2
10.  Delaware Valley  4-2  4-3

[Knightstalker]

are u guys playing cards?

+k

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Nice!

Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?!

Germans?  Pearl Harbor?

Let him go, he's on a roll.

[AUKaz00]

This is the first time since 1981 that the Saxons are 7-0 and it's been pointed out to me that if it takes that long for Alfred to reproduce the feat I will be Pep's age when it happens again!  All of a sudden I have a renewed vigor to attend and root on the Saxons the rest of the way.  Thanks to Max and TGP for your third-party rooting for the Saxons.  Hopefully this season still contains some magic that Pep and I will talk about for the next 26 years as we await another magical run.

On Saxon Warriors, please!

[boobyhasgameyo]

NCAA Regional Rankings are out....

1.  Alfred  7-0  7-0
2.  Curry  8-0  8-0
3.  Rensselaer  6-0  6-0
4.  St. John Fisher  7-1  7-1
5.  The College of New Jersey  6-1  6-1
6.  Albright  6-1  6-1
7.  Cortland State  5-1  6-1
8.  Union (New York)  4-2  4-2
9.  Hobart  5-2  5-2
10.  Delaware Valley  4-2  4-3

Oh dear sweet chocolate covered Curry, you look so cute holding down the 2 spot in the East...

[BoSox0322]

Are we sure a coach at the D3 level can be fired soley based on his on field performance (record)?  I dont think he can... if he resigned obviously thats different.

Sure a coach can be fired for on field performance.  It is college football.  Honestly, I know some people inside the program and have personal friends that played at Utica.  I've heard some things that are quite worrisome.  At Fisher, the players police themselves.  No drinking during the week, only saturday nights after games.  No drugs, go to classes, etc.  If rules are broken, the players on the unity council decide the consequences.  At Utica, its much different.  My friends, whom both started at Utica for 2 years, did whatever they wanted whenever they wanted.  Drinking everynight, even the night before games.  Never went to class, got kicked off campus, etc. 
Until some discipline is adopted by the players, it will be hard to change things.  A new coach is probably exactly what they need. 

DewCrew, I know your an alum so dont take anything I just said personally.  Just some things I've heard.

Well you just proved what i was thinking... none of what you stated is on the field performance... there was obviously something else going on behind the scenes there... so thank you for your non relavant info

[BoSox0322]

Are we sure a coach at the D3 level can be fired soley based on his on field performance (record)?  I dont think he can... if he resigned obviously thats different.

What special protection would a D3 coach enjoy preventing his termination?  This is America.  You can fire an employee for any reason you damn well please.

Sure a coach can be fired for on field performance.  It is college football.  Honestly, I know some people inside the program and have personal friends that played at Utica.  I've heard some things that are quite worrisome.  At Fisher, the players police themselves.  No drinking during the week, only saturday nights after games.  No drugs, go to classes, etc.  If rules are broken, the players on the unity council decide the consequences.  At Utica, its much different.  My friends, whom both started at Utica for 2 years, did whatever they wanted whenever they wanted.  Drinking everynight, even the night before games.  Never went to class, got kicked off campus, etc. 

Until some discipline is adopted by the players, it will be hard to change things.  A new coach is probably exactly what they need. 

DewCrew, I know your an alum so dont take anything I just said personally.  Just some things I've heard.

This made me spit out water.  The Unity Council?  Seriously?  Hysterical.  Do they wear hooded black robes and light their meeting room with torches?

Jose if I could give those +k things i would give you 100 of them for this

[BoSox0322]

Man... After the passionate Harry freakin Potter discussion I'm having a tuff time taking any of your opinions seriously at this point

if you are going to read it... read it in a closet with a flash light and dont tell anyone...

NSRB was not part of the Harry Potter discussion... he hopes this comment isnt directed towards him.  NSRB is glad to see the Harry Potter discussion is over.

as for Ithaca/ Utica...  you're telling me that in the 44-7 blowout there wasnt any fantastic moment that could have made the highlight reel?  i.e. 80 td?  Kemps final moments?  .. nothing...  wth...  I figured a blowout would be more exciting to show highlights much like the Patriots games of late than two middle of the pack teams slugging it out, or bottom of the barrel teams (i.e. Syracuse and Buffalo).. seriously. no one cares about SU football for now.  We've been in basketball mode since the first kickoff of Greg Robinsons putrid season began.

Hey I get that Syracuse sucks and someone like you or I would rather see Ithaca Utica highlights... but do you really think they are going to say... you know what Syracuse is strugglin ... let skip them and get to the Pioneers

[realistic]

are u guys playing cards?

+k

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!

Nice!

Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?!

Germans?  Pearl Harbor?

Let him go, he's on a roll.

And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!