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Tessie is the Royal Rooters rally cry
Tessie is the tue they always sung!

[fisheralum91]

we're not here to mess around, Boston you know we love you madly, hear the crowd roar to your sound!

[superman57]

FA, whats the deal with the Utica coach

[fisheralum91]

Was more than just the record---cant go into details----all i heard was rumor and conjecture----though probably accurate--

"And thats all i have to say about that"

[WICB Sports]

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[redswarm81]

redswarm, answer this question.....

Who has a better football team, Michigan or Appalachian St?

After the first game of the season, there was no legitimate, logical reason to rank Michigan ahead of Appalachian State.  Nonetheless, I'm sure that there were thousands of people who felt very strongly that Michigan was a better team than Appalachian State.

In the eight or so weeks since then, Appalachian State has lost other games to other opponents, won other games v. different opponents, and Michigan has done the same.  So now, eight weeks later, sure--you can use common opponent analysis and SoS and overall winning percentage, and you can--based on objective evidence--conclude that today, eight weeks later, Michigan is a better team than Appalachian State.

But if you reached that conclusion after week one, you were doing so in direct contravention of the fact that Appalachian State beat Michigan.

But you still have the #1 benchmark for objective analysis of two football teams in a ranking.....head to head. 

Right, but as I explained, as each team plays more games, more data become available.  That changes the calculation.

If I understand what you're doing with your "steps," I wouldn't include anything like your "Step 3" in my calculations, but you're welcome to do so.  I just want to understand how important your "feelings" are in your calculation.  Apparently they're pretty important in your evaluation system, since you include both Step 3 and Step 4, which says nothing more than "repeat Step 3."

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Was more than just the record---cant go into details----all i heard was rumor and conjecture----though probably accurate--

"And thats all i have to say about that"

Probably can't speak on it gents - poke around elsewhere.

[chris7sarge]

If the Utica coach killed a man, he still should have been fired because he hasnt done anything with the Utica program before it came to this.

[redswarm81]

If the Utica coach killed a man, he still should have been fired because he hasnt done anything with the Utica program before it came to this.

Hey, if he killed a man, what's the big deal? 

But if he electrocuted his dog, . . . 

[chris7sarge]

If the Utica coach killed a man, he still should have been fired because he hasnt done anything with the Utica program before it came to this.

Hey, if he killed a man, what's the big deal? 

But if he electrocuted his dog, . . . 

not sure if you're kidding, serious, making a political statement, or just trying to play devil's advocate.  More importantly, though, I dont care because I've seen your posts and arguments and I dont have the patience or care to argue with you over something stupid.

[Caz Bombers]

Tessie is the Royal Rooters rally cry
Tessie is the tue they always sung!

I used to really, really like that Dropkick tune from The Departed...that song could fire you up to fight a bear.  Now though I will think of nothing but Papelbon's lunatic dancing and of course, why he was dancing in the first place.  Now if you'll excuse me, I think I need to go buy a Wilson Betemit #14 shirt...the must-have accessory for Yankee fans in 2008.

This is where Simmons would add "I will now light myself on fire."

[fisheralum91]

"Red Sox, you are the only , only only............."

[admirals_vt]

Anybody see DewCrews column yet?  I just read it.  His East Region rankings are very interesting this week.  I'm surprised Hartwick isn't in there.  Here it is:

1. Wesley
2. RPI
3. Salisbury
4. St. John Fisher
5. Alfred
6. New Jersey
7. Hobart
8. Ithaca
9. Rochester
10. Cortland State

I agree that Hartwick has an argument to be in the top 10, but who are you going to move out for them to get in. Maybe IC, who has the same record, and lost to Hartwick, but I think if they played again it would be a much different story. Rochester could be another one they trade places with, but they have been very impressive the last few weeks. I pretty much like the top 10 that DewCrew put out this week. The only change that I think I would make would be to move New Jersey ahead of AU.

New Jersey has been as impressive as anyone, and the 30-0 drubbing of #10 Cortland State was enough to move them ahead of AU who lost last week. In my mind anyway.

I hate to say it because he writes good articles in general, but I believe Dew has a little bias against Hartwick. Understandable with his Utica background. It would be hard for anyone to not be swayed by their past.
For example as good a baseball reporter as Peter Gammons his Red Sox bias does slip through sometimes. He does a very good job of trying to be fair but it's hard to hold it down.

[Jonny Utah]

redswarm, answer this question.....

Who has a better football team, Michigan or Appalachian St?

After the first game of the season, there was no legitimate, logical reason to rank Michigan ahead of Appalachian State.  Nonetheless, I'm sure that there were thousands of people who felt very strongly that Michigan was a better team than Appalachian State.

In the eight or so weeks since then, Appalachian State has lost other games to other opponents, won other games v. different opponents, and Michigan has done the same.  So now, eight weeks later, sure--you can use common opponent analysis and SoS and overall winning percentage, and you can--based on objective evidence--conclude that today, eight weeks later, Michigan is a better team than Appalachian State.

But if you reached that conclusion after week one, you were doing so in direct contravention of the fact that Appalachian State beat Michigan.

But you still have the #1 benchmark for objective analysis of two football teams in a ranking.....head to head. 

Right, but as I explained, as each team plays more games, more data become available.  That changes the calculation.

If I understand what you're doing with your "steps," I wouldn't include anything like your "Step 3" in my calculations, but you're welcome to do so.  I just want to understand how important your "feelings" are in your calculation.  Apparently they're pretty important in your evaluation system, since you include both Step 3 and Step 4, which says nothing more than "repeat Step 3."

Well no, step 3 might include things like...

The New England Patriots would beat the Ohio State Buckeyes
Mt. Union would beat Galludet in the first game of the year.

[dewcrew88]

Anybody see DewCrews column yet?  I just read it.  His East Region rankings are very interesting this week.  I'm surprised Hartwick isn't in there.  Here it is:

1. Wesley
2. RPI
3. Salisbury
4. St. John Fisher
5. Alfred
6. New Jersey
7. Hobart
8. Ithaca
9. Rochester
10. Cortland State

I agree that Hartwick has an argument to be in the top 10, but who are you going to move out for them to get in. Maybe IC, who has the same record, and lost to Hartwick, but I think if they played again it would be a much different story. Rochester could be another one they trade places with, but they have been very impressive the last few weeks. I pretty much like the top 10 that DewCrew put out this week. The only change that I think I would make would be to move New Jersey ahead of AU.

New Jersey has been as impressive as anyone, and the 30-0 drubbing of #10 Cortland State was enough to move them ahead of AU who lost last week. In my mind anyway.

I hate to say it because he writes good articles in general, but I believe Dew has a little bias against Hartwick. Understandable with his Utica background. It would be hard for anyone to not be swayed by their past.
For example as good a baseball reporter as Peter Gammons his Red Sox bias does slip through sometimes. He does a very good job of trying to be fair but it's hard to hold it down.

I have absolutely no bias against Hartwick. None. And to have my name in the same sentence as Peter Gammons... that is a very good thing.