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theicdubbz

Quote from: chris7sarge on November 05, 2007, 09:46:15 AM
Quote from: theicdubbz on November 05, 2007, 09:40:56 AM

If SJF and Ithaca win then SJF gets the AQ and IC will get the pool C.  Granted this is if the committee decides the E8 is worthy of 2 spots.  the LL is just as screwed up as the E8 so who knows which conference they will go to for a C bid.

IC would get in ahead of Wick (if SJF wins)?  Why would they get in ahead of a team that beat them?

Well, I think it is because after the AQ has been decided they look at the record, 8-2.  The loss to Hartwick was in Hartwick, Fisher lot to them too which makes it more credible for IC having their only other loss being to Fisher.  IC is streaking right now beating a very good Alfred team by 20 and if they beat Cortland handedly than it is going to be tough to over look them.  Their schedule was stronger than Hartwicks.  Hartwick closes out the year against 1-7 Utica after struggling against Springfield.  Springfield being a team that got monkey stomped by SJF, Alf, & IC.  I just can not see Hartwick getting the nod over the bombers after SJF gets the AQ.

Knightstalker

Quote from: admirals_vt on November 05, 2007, 08:43:13 AM
Question for Pat or someone else at D3.com. One of the primary criteria in the NCAA selection process is 'record versus regionally ranked teams'. Is the final regional rankings or the rankings at the time of the game?

It is the final regional rankings which are done before the teams are selected and not released.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

AUKaz00

Just checking in.  I'm still bummed, but more so now after reading all those pages of drivel.

Some thoughts from Lt. Chairman Kaz00:
-Folks need to learn how to edit quotes.  Once it's screwed up the next 20 posts are impossible to read.
-If the top of the E8 has 4 teams at 8-2, Hartwick gets the first shot at a Pool C.  They have H2H over Fisher and Ithaca which would also be 2 regionally ranked wins.  That's also why FA05 wants UofR to get 'spect since it would even that tie-breaker criterion.
-Fisher -10 vs. Alfred.
Check out the official card game of the AU Pep Band - Str8 Eight!

FisherAlum05

Yeah.  Before this weekend, I thought Hobart was basically a lock for a pool C with an 8-2 finish (if they dont get the AQ).  But, more and more I think Ithaca might grab the final Pool C bid if they beat Cortland.  I think they're resume will be stronger than Hobarts.  
St. John Fisher College...King of the East

chris7sarge

I'm very surprised that Wick is getting little respect.  It is in my opinion that if you beat someone head to head, regardless if you believe it was a fluke or not, the team that won should get in first. 

FisherAlum05

Quote from: theicdubbz on November 05, 2007, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: admirals_vt on November 05, 2007, 09:34:43 AM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 05, 2007, 09:08:57 AM
admirals- i give ya credit- you are looking for the loophole to get wick in!!

ON another note---good to see Fisher at #6 in the country.  Good to see as they go into the last game of the season!

Bundle up boys- looks like Sat will be sunny but chilly!
Loookin forward to seeing everybody again after a few game hiatus!!

How is looking at the NCAA's selection criteria a loophole. I've already said on here that I believe win or lose SJF is in ahead of 'wick and a higher seed. Nothing wrong with looking at the actual criteria though.

If SJF and Ithaca win then SJF gets the AQ and IC will get the pool C.  Granted this is if the committee decides the E8 is worthy of 2 spots.  the LL is just as screwed up as the E8 so who knows which conference they will go to for a C bid.

Dubbz,

I think you're forgetting that if SJF wins, and Wick beats Utica, then Wick gets the AQ.  SJF will then grab a pool C. 
Ithaca fans should be rooting for SJF to win, and for Utica to beat Wick.  That would give IC the best chance for a pool C.  Also IC fans should be rooting for Hobart to beat U of R, and for Union to defeat RPI.  This would give Hobart the AQ in the LL and kill RPI for a pool C. 
St. John Fisher College...King of the East

fisheralum91

Wick fans still have to love the season that they have had!
to even be in the mix was way more than they ever would have imagined!

maninorangehat

Pep,

MIOH is waiting to hear your analysis of this year's contest at Butterfield.  Did you make it over to the FDC tailgate for Krispy Creams and PBR?

Alf really needs to look into the scheduling problems they have in odd years.  Playing 3 contenders on the road late in the season doesn't seem to be a formula for success.

Go Bombers
Cortland Sucks




JQV

Quote from: chris7sarge on November 05, 2007, 10:05:57 AM
I'm very surprised that Wick is getting little respect. 

You are?

admirals_vt

Quote from: FisherAlum05 on November 05, 2007, 10:12:46 AM
Quote from: theicdubbz on November 05, 2007, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: admirals_vt on November 05, 2007, 09:34:43 AM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 05, 2007, 09:08:57 AM
admirals- i give ya credit- you are looking for the loophole to get wick in!!

ON another note---good to see Fisher at #6 in the country.  Good to see as they go into the last game of the season!

Bundle up boys- looks like Sat will be sunny but chilly!
Loookin forward to seeing everybody again after a few game hiatus!!

How is looking at the NCAA's selection criteria a loophole. I've already said on here that I believe win or lose SJF is in ahead of 'wick and a higher seed. Nothing wrong with looking at the actual criteria though.

If SJF and Ithaca win then SJF gets the AQ and IC will get the pool C.  Granted this is if the committee decides the E8 is worthy of 2 spots.  the LL is just as screwed up as the E8 so who knows which conference they will go to for a C bid.

Dubbz,

I think you're forgetting that if SJF wins, and Wick beats Utica, then Wick gets the AQ.  SJF will then grab a pool C. 
Ithaca fans should be rooting for SJF to win, and for Utica to beat Wick.  That would give IC the best chance for a pool C.  Also IC fans should be rooting for Hobart to beat U of R, and for Union to defeat RPI.  This would give Hobart the AQ in the LL and kill RPI for a pool C. 

Could not of said it better myself, so I won't repeat.

admirals_vt

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 05, 2007, 10:16:23 AM
Wick fans still have to love the season that they have had!
to even be in the mix was way more than they ever would have imagined!

I've said it before, based on where we have been we would be very happy with an ECAC bowl. That doesn't mean we are giving up on the NCAA's

SJFF82

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Quote from: chris7sarge on November 05, 2007, 10:05:57 AM
I'm very surprised that Wick is getting little respect.  It is in my opinion that if you beat someone head to head, regardless if you believe it was a fluke or not, the team that won should get in first. 
Sarge, I believe you are mistaking "opinion" for "respect".  Nobody is disrespecting 'Wick (unless it is blatant sarcasm or in jest) they are just opining that 'Wick, despite their excellent season, is still a substantial underdog.  The good thing for 'Wick though, is that they have a solid chance to get the AQ, and prove that there reg. season is legit.  I hope they get the AQ and play tough in the NCAA's.  It would be good for the E8. 


FisherAlum05

Obviously youre not giving up on the NCAA's.  It is VERY probable Wick will make it as the AQ.  As long as they can take care of Utica, and Fisher can beat Alfred at home.  Like some people have said, Wick fans should also be huge SJF fans this weekend.
St. John Fisher College...King of the East

SJFF82

It is ironic that the SJF posters are having to defend the 'Wickers' claims of respect....that was 'us' with the IC posters a short few seasons ago.  I sure hope that 'Wick does not do to us we now do to IC...

admirals_vt

Quote from: FisherAlum05 on November 05, 2007, 10:27:36 AM
Obviously youre not giving up on the NCAA's.  It is VERY probable Wick will make it as the AQ.  As long as they can take care of Utica, and Fisher can beat Alfred at home.  Like some people have said, Wick fans should also be huge SJF fans this weekend.

Trust me we are. When we heard the final score from Ithaca on Saturday I tried to get a "Lets go Fisher " cheer started in the stands.