FB: Empire 8

[Toph]

I would love to see IC score 24 or more on MUC... they've only given up 24 all year to this point.

I think IC has the weapons to do so, Donovan can pound with the best of them.  IC's O line is going to have their hands full all day but they need to come out and start strong to get Donovan rolling.  Also, IC needs to get their TE and FB involved to move the chains, they're not going to be able to use their speedy WR's downfield all that often. 

Really?  Mount's first team D hasn't given up a touchdown all season, but you think Ithaca can score over 24?  Not trying to be rude...but why will Ithaca have so much success where others haven't?  Capital kept Mount scoreless for the first quarter and lost 35-0.

[Toph]

Could care less.  This is the playoffs, its an entirely different season.  Everyone starts out with the same record.  I could care less if they pissed gold and crapped silver during the regular season.  Playoffs baby!

Yeah. Trends established over 10 games are totally meaningless. 

Pat,

I think I can speak for many on this board that hope MUC doesn't run through all their games winning 50 or 60-0.

they won't

Yeah, they'll only win by 20 or so when they face St. John's in the National Semifinals 

I would be willing to bet they win by less than 30 each of their first three games. Ithaca, RPI, and Fisher will stay within 30 of them.

I'm going to hold you to this.   

[JQV]

IMO, the key to the game for the Bombers is their defense. MUC's "D" won't give up many points. The Bombers "D" must hold the Raiders to 20 points or less to prevail. The weather may assist both teams in keeping the score down. Just don't see a shootout here.

IC's D has been quite an x-factor this year.  They laid a couple of eggs early but have quietly improved every week after that.  I think it is fair to chalk up some of the early struggles to the coaching change (for you MUC guys, IC replaced both coordinators less than a month before camp opened).

Also, the play of the secondary has really keyed this 6 game win streak.  They have shown marked improvement since the debacle at Hartwick and, for the most part, held a good QB in Ray Miles in check.

[theoriginalupstate]

I would love to see IC score 24 or more on MUC... they've only given up 24 all year to this point.

I think IC has the weapons to do so, Donovan can pound with the best of them.  IC's O line is going to have their hands full all day but they need to come out and start strong to get Donovan rolling.  Also, IC needs to get their TE and FB involved to move the chains, they're not going to be able to use their speedy WR's downfield all that often. 

Really?  Mount's first team D hasn't given up a touchdown all season, but you think Ithaca can score over 24?  Not trying to be rude...but why will Ithaca have so much success where others haven't?  Capital kept Mount scoreless for the first quarter and lost 35-0.

IC's offense has been on a tear, winning 6 straight and averaging 40pts per contest over that stretch.  These guys are not just a bunch of fat slobs and athletes that just try to overpower you or outrun you.  They are very disciplined and well coached.  IC runs a nice system where the coverage dictates the routes run by the recievers and tight ends.  They'll take what you give them and they are pretty efficient at doing so. 

"Its Science" as the LLers would say...

[not so rowdy bomber]

Rowdy is wondering about Hobart fans.  Do they have anything like the FDC?  Is there a Pep Band?  A cowbell section? Or do they Just bring a whole bunch of pumpkins and line them up in the empty sections of the bleachers to make it look like there are fans there?

Hobart Fans

will either team cheer "Next Stop: Salem!" when the game is over?

Rowdy hopes that Hobart fans dont drink too much before the game too...
lines for the bathroom could look like this:


or if they REALLY drink too much it could turn out like this:

[JQV]

Last time I was at Bart was the game Felicetti came back from his injury his freshman year.  Great game and Bart had a pretty good home crowd.  It was nasty out too.  I am guessing they will fill the place for Fisher and the playoffs.

[theicdubbz]

I remember one of the last times IC played bart before the Independent days ended. I think they had a pretty good attendance at butterfield.  I know the two programs didnt see eye to eye then either.  I remember a lot of Bomber faithful yelling 'run it up!'  The game finished IC 50 something, Bart 12?

[fronz81]

Wow, there sure are some great games scheduled for Saturday, but none better than the SJFC vs. Hobart game.  I think the Great Pumpkin did an excellent preview of the 2 teams.  Hobart is definitely playing some of the best football in the entire east right now, but Fisher has not looked all that bad either.  I think in order for Fisher to win they, must slow down Hobarts passing game.  If Hobart wants to win the game, they must keep the Fisher running game in check (less than 125 yards). 

I look forward to watching a great game on Saturday.

Go Fisher!!

[JQV]

Near the end Bart-IC had turned into a nice little rivalry.  They competed for players in recruiting and were both pretty good the last few years they played.

[BoSox0322]

Last time I was at Bart was the game Felicetti came back from his injury his freshman year.  Great game and Bart had a pretty good home crowd.  It was nasty out too.  I am guessing they will fill the place for Fisher and the playoffs.

Isnt the game at Fisher?  Or are you saying they will fill Fisher's stadium up?

[realistic]

In other NY news, how about Flynn for Syracuse tonight? He was lighting it up with Harris (both Niagara Falls products).  Flynn had 28pts 9 assts while Harris had 14pts and 15 boards (i think), these two cut down their turnovers and Syracuse could be inline for a very nice season.  They have the makings of a nice team over the next few years with Greene (fr), Flynn, Harris and Rautins when he comes back next year with 2 years remaining.

I watched the Syracuse game tonight.  Man do they have alot of young talent.  Flynn, Green, Harris, and Devendorf are all incredibly good players.  Onuaku is an absolute manchild under the basket.  If this team can cut down on the turnovers, and play better defense, look out.  Especially next season, they will be a national title contender.  

Props to the Siena basketball team.  They kept it close against a young and talented Cuse team.  Every time they were down 15 points or so, they would cut it back to single digits.  They are a very good mid-major team and will most likely win their conference the MAAC.

they looked good last night.  Taking into account that it was Sienna, I think there is a lot to be excited about for the season (then again anything will be better than FB).  Obviously they have to work on the turnovers, but it is very early and I think that will come as Flynn gets more comfortable as the 1 and Devo can move full time to the 2.  The talent is incredible on that team and as someone else said, if they can keep this squad around for a few years, it can be scary good.  Also the JuCo transfer looks like he can be special too.  Veyr excited about the season, and I think Sienna is gonna be pretty good too.

[JQV]

Last time I was at Bart was the game Felicetti came back from his injury his freshman year.  Great game and Bart had a pretty good home crowd.  It was nasty out too.  I am guessing they will fill the place for Fisher and the playoffs.

Isnt the game at Fisher?  Or are you saying they will fill Fisher's stadium up?

I suppose that wasn't a very clear post.  Yes Fisher's place will be filled.

[fisheralum91]

Fisher will be packed again and yes the game predicates on the Fisher D (specifically the secondary) and the Fisher running game.
I t is a nice thing to see when growney is packed-- one tip to the Fisher faithful however--MAKE SOME NOISE.  I was suprised that they were for the most part quiet for most of the AU game---minus a few vocal fans and the presence of the cowbells.

[BoSox0322]

Last time I was at Bart was the game Felicetti came back from his injury his freshman year.  Great game and Bart had a pretty good home crowd.  It was nasty out too.  I am guessing they will fill the place for Fisher and the playoffs.

Isnt the game at Fisher?  Or are you saying they will fill Fisher's stadium up?

I suppose that wasn't a very clear post.  Yes Fisher's place will be filled.

Gotchya

[Toph]

I would love to see IC score 24 or more on MUC... they've only given up 24 all year to this point.

I think IC has the weapons to do so, Donovan can pound with the best of them.  IC's O line is going to have their hands full all day but they need to come out and start strong to get Donovan rolling.  Also, IC needs to get their TE and FB involved to move the chains, they're not going to be able to use their speedy WR's downfield all that often. 

Really?  Mount's first team D hasn't given up a touchdown all season, but you think Ithaca can score over 24?  Not trying to be rude...but why will Ithaca have so much success where others haven't?  Capital kept Mount scoreless for the first quarter and lost 35-0.

IC's offense has been on a tear, winning 6 straight and averaging 40pts per contest over that stretch.  These guys are not just a bunch of fat slobs and athletes that just try to overpower you or outrun you.  They are very disciplined and well coached.  IC runs a nice system where the coverage dictates the routes run by the recievers and tight ends.  They'll take what you give them and they are pretty efficient at doing so. 

"Its Science" as the LLers would say...

Mount's defense has been on a tear, winning 33 straight and averaging 7 points against per contest over that stretch.  These guys are not just a bunch of fat slobs and athletes who just try to overpower you or blow past you with speed.  They are very disciplined and well coached.  Mount Union runs a nice system where they completely shut their opponent down and win national titles.  They are pretty efficient at doing so.

"It's Science" as the LLers would say...

Whose argument is better?