FB: Empire 8

[dewcrew88]

You can never replace a Crea, but with your QB, #1WR and complete O-line returning your not going to have much if any drop-off and with that returning you have to be the number #1 contender to land whoever the regions stud coming out of HS is. I didn't say we would stop playing after the first round, but you have to admit after the last couple of years even at this point this is a great year and nobody on this team will go into the off-season (hopefully weeks away) without positive memories.

I absolutely disagree with this.

Even if we limit it just to the regional studs that fit the D-III private school profile, I still don't thin HC will be the number 1 choice.

I didn't say the number 1 choice, I said contender. If you are a back and think you can play and produce as a freshman your going to make a short list that has schools with a starter graduating. Than other factors come it to play for final selection (school size, majors, location, etc...). There are a number of current players that switched schools do to playing time.

If a player goes to Hartwick on a recruiting trip, likes to climb the hills, thinks he can get a good education for the type of major and career he's looking at and the financial aid is good, than Hartwick will be the choice. IMO, I think education and the school is a much bigger piece for recruits in DIII then anywhere else.

[admirals_vt]

You can never replace a Crea, but with your QB, #1WR and complete O-line returning your not going to have much if any drop-off and with that returning you have to be the number #1 contender to land whoever the regions stud coming out of HS is. I didn't say we would stop playing after the first round, but you have to admit after the last couple of years even at this point this is a great year and nobody on this team will go into the off-season (hopefully weeks away) without positive memories.

I absolutely disagree with this.

Even if we limit it just to the regional studs that fit the D-III private school profile, I still don't thin HC will be the number 1 choice.

I didn't say the number 1 choice, I said contender. If you are a back and think you can play and produce as a freshman your going to make a short list that has schools with a starter graduating. Than other factors come it to play for final selection (school size, majors, location, etc...). There are a number of current players that switched schools do to playing time.

If a player goes to Hartwick on a recruiting trip, likes to climb the hills, thinks he can get a good education for the type of major and career he's looking at and the financial aid is good, than Hartwick will be the choice. IMO, I think education and the school is a much bigger piece for recruits in DIII then anywhere else.

I agree, but unfortunately there are kids even at the D3 level that go someplace just because of a sport. Probably has something to do with 'rents being in a fanasty world as well.

By the way Dew, from the reports I got your boys came to play from the coin flip Sat.. Don't know if it is because of the coach, but a tip of the admirals cap to them and it can't help but lift spirits for next year.

[fisheralum91]

the sense of belonging goes a long way crew!
i was at the AU game last week and you should have seen all the recruits that were being schmoozed that day!

[Knightstalker]

Does anyone know what happens to a high school senior in Ohio who is slightly undersized and is too dumb to get into Ohio State?

A.  Marry a sibling
B.  Embark on a career in urinal cake making
C.  Play football for Mount Union
D.  Try and apply to Cortland

Just read back a few pages and had to comment on this.  Is this even possible? 

Maurice Clarett says no.

[dewcrew88]

You can never replace a Crea, but with your QB, #1WR and complete O-line returning your not going to have much if any drop-off and with that returning you have to be the number #1 contender to land whoever the regions stud coming out of HS is. I didn't say we would stop playing after the first round, but you have to admit after the last couple of years even at this point this is a great year and nobody on this team will go into the off-season (hopefully weeks away) without positive memories.

I absolutely disagree with this.

Even if we limit it just to the regional studs that fit the D-III private school profile, I still don't thin HC will be the number 1 choice.

I didn't say the number 1 choice, I said contender. If you are a back and think you can play and produce as a freshman your going to make a short list that has schools with a starter graduating. Than other factors come it to play for final selection (school size, majors, location, etc...). There are a number of current players that switched schools do to playing time.

If a player goes to Hartwick on a recruiting trip, likes to climb the hills, thinks he can get a good education for the type of major and career he's looking at and the financial aid is good, than Hartwick will be the choice. IMO, I think education and the school is a much bigger piece for recruits in DIII then anywhere else.

I agree, but unfortunately there are kids even at the D3 level that go someplace just because of a sport. Probably has something to do with 'rents being in a fanasty world as well.

By the way Dew, from the reports I got your boys came to play from the coin flip Sat.. Don't know if it is because of the coach, but a tip of the admirals cap to them and it can't help but lift spirits for next year.

I hope it is. Maybe Jellerson can turn this team around. They've proven it can be done (6-4 in 2005) so lets see it proven again.

[Jonny Utah]

I don't think you can ever say any school is a guaranteed #1 choice for any athlete without knowing them individually.  Obviously there are way too many factors that should be considered.  A kid who wants to be an engineer isn't going to Ithaca, just like a kid who wants to play an instrument isn't going to RPI.

What about the 3-2 program with Cornell (and with RPI too I believe)  Dont you get two real degrees from both institutions?

[BoSox0322]

You can never replace a Crea, but with your QB, #1WR and complete O-line returning your not going to have much if any drop-off and with that returning you have to be the number #1 contender to land whoever the regions stud coming out of HS is. I didn't say we would stop playing after the first round, but you have to admit after the last couple of years even at this point this is a great year and nobody on this team will go into the off-season (hopefully weeks away) without positive memories.

I absolutely disagree with this.

Even if we limit it just to the regional studs that fit the D-III private school profile, I still don't thin HC will be the number 1 choice.

I didn't say the number 1 choice, I said contender. If you are a back and think you can play and produce as a freshman your going to make a short list that has schools with a starter graduating. Than other factors come it to play for final selection (school size, majors, location, etc...). There are a number of current players that switched schools do to playing time.

If a player goes to Hartwick on a recruiting trip, likes to climb the hills, thinks he can get a good education for the type of major and career he's looking at and the financial aid is good, than Hartwick will be the choice. IMO, I think education and the school is a much bigger piece for recruits in DIII then anywhere else.

If he likes to climb hills I would say Ithaca was in the running also...

Do you think Utica's situation can make the next step?  I just see it always being a challenge there ... and this is completely based on opinion but... as far as a college atmosphere (socially, area, campus) it just seems like it will be tuff.

[realistic]

I don't think you can ever say any school is a guaranteed #1 choice for any athlete without knowing them individually.  Obviously there are way too many factors that should be considered.  A kid who wants to be an engineer isn't going to Ithaca, just like a kid who wants to play an instrument isn't going to RPI.

What about the 3-2 program with Cornell (and with RPI too I believe)  Dont you get two real degrees from both institutions?

I don't know how that works.  I knew a kid who did that for Physics, but don't know if you get 2 degrees or just one from Cornell.

[Jonny Utah]

I don't think you can ever say any school is a guaranteed #1 choice for any athlete without knowing them individually.  Obviously there are way too many factors that should be considered.  A kid who wants to be an engineer isn't going to Ithaca, just like a kid who wants to play an instrument isn't going to RPI.

What about the 3-2 program with Cornell (and with RPI too I believe)  Dont you get two real degrees from both institutions?

I don't know how that works.  I knew a kid who did that for Physics, but don't know if you get 2 degrees or just one from Cornell.

Im pretty sure you get the degree in physics from IC/ and then a degree in engineering from Cornell.

[fisheralum91]

bosox- u may want to see the uc campus now.
much different than it used to be.
and what is wrong with the area?

[Jonny Utah]

bosox- u may want to see the uc campus now.
much different than it used to be.
and what is wrong with the area?

Miami Beach, Maui, San Diego, St. Martin, Utica, Naples, Nassau, Myrtle Beach, Cape Cod, Orlando...........

Which one doesnt belong.....?

[Knightstalker]

bosox- u may want to see the uc campus now.
much different than it used to be.
and what is wrong with the area?

Miami Beach, Maui, San Diego, St. Martin, Utica, Naples, Nassau, Myrtle Beach, Cape Cod, Orlando...........

Which one doesnt belong.....?

Depends, Naples Italy or Naples FL.  If it is Naples Italy then it doesn't belong either.

[fisheralum91]

funny- seriously- i have no stake in uc- but having seen the transformation the campus has made and the improvements in the entire athletic dept and academic dept---uc deserves a look

[fisheralum91]

not that id let my kid go there--


cmon im kidding

[BoSox0322]

bosox- u may want to see the uc campus now.
much different than it used to be.
and what is wrong with the area?

I just dont see Utica as a great city/town to go to college in... i know this is a bad way to look at it but... If you live on campus and you want to go out to the bars to hang out chase tail whatever...  where do they go?  Is there bars close they can walk to?  Are they just the regular bars in Utica?  Like Verick street? do they have to take cabs constantly?

Is Utica still a big commuter school?

Yea i Havent seen UC campus in a while... It just always seemed it was in the middle of nowhere across from a big hospital