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Quote from: Knightstalker on November 15, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
If Lowell is smart he will resign with Boston, he won't put up those numbers in any other park.  The Sox will be smart to resign him, there isn't a better 3rd baseman out there even if his production slips a little.  Unless they want to give up young players for Cabrera from FL.

Which is why one must ask why they ever gave up Hanley Ramirez.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: SJFF82 on November 15, 2007, 07:08:14 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2007, 12:13:47 AM
Quote from: Tags on November 14, 2007, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: pg04 on November 14, 2007, 10:20:46 PM
I agree, all this talk is useless, and has nothing to do with the games at hand.  Perhaps it's a diversion to the beating that may be at hand...

And Wasn't Garcon hurt or something last year? 

that's what everyone will say, but one week later he had the game he did vs. Whitewater in the Stagg, so it's not a valid argument.

His hand didn't miraculously heal in one week.

Nope. But they learned and used him differently, if you watched the game.
Not everyone gets to watch the games...but most still try to have an informed opinion...if only those who saw the games posted and viewed this website Pat, there may not be one.   

It was the Stagg Bowl -- you had the chance to view it.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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Speaking of horrible shortstops - I can't wrap my mind around why anyone with so much money wouldn't just pay the damn taxes and be done with it. It's more work to try and save some dough than it's worth.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311830,00.html

Pat Coleman

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 15, 2007, 07:43:50 AM
did anybody read the team capsules?
under how far will they go---in the east bracket every one says the road ends in alliance.

hmmm.

they have already crowned muc--so why bother play the games right?

god- i just wish somebody would beat them already!

"THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE"

Oddly enough, we say that every year and with 12 consecutive trips to the semifinals we have yet to be wrong.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Tags on November 15, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 15, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
If Lowell is smart he will resign with Boston, he won't put up those numbers in any other park.  The Sox will be smart to resign him, there isn't a better 3rd baseman out there even if his production slips a little.  Unless they want to give up young players for Cabrera from FL.

Which is why one must ask why they ever gave up Hanley Ramirez.

Or Freddy Sanchez, or Kason Gabbard, or Jeff Bagwell, or Kelly Shopach, etc. etc. etc...

That's the name of the game.   They did something right.  They have 2 Worlds Series in 4 years.  Sometimes it's the price you gotta pay.  They had the rookie of the year this year, and probably the rookie of the year with Elsbury next year too, so it looks like they are drafting well, trading well, and developing players well, but like all franchises, you gotta give up talent now and again to play for the present.

JQV

Quote from: Knightstalker on November 15, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
If Lowell is smart he will resign with Boston, he won't put up those numbers in any other park.  The Sox will be smart to resign him, there isn't a better 3rd baseman out there even if his production slips a little.  Unless they want to give up young players for Cabrera from FL.

I think the exact oppossite is true.  Forget the numbers he is going to put up after the contract.  If Lowell wants the numbers ON the contract to be big, then he needs to sign elsewhere.  This is his chance to live every aging ballplayer's dream, to get paid well over his value.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2007, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 15, 2007, 07:43:50 AM
did anybody read the team capsules?
under how far will they go---in the east bracket every one says the road ends in alliance.

hmmm.

they have already crowned muc--so why bother play the games right?

god- i just wish somebody would beat them already!

"THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE"

Oddly enough, we say that every year and with 12 consecutive trips to the semifinals we have yet to be wrong.

It's annoying to read every year, but if I were writing it, it would be the same thing.  I can't disagree, I just hope someone can knock them off...or atleast score a touchdown on them...

lewdogg11

Quote from: JoseQViper on November 15, 2007, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 15, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
If Lowell is smart he will resign with Boston, he won't put up those numbers in any other park.  The Sox will be smart to resign him, there isn't a better 3rd baseman out there even if his production slips a little.  Unless they want to give up young players for Cabrera from FL.

I think the exact oppossite is true.  Forget the numbers he is going to put up after the contract.  If Lowell wants the numbers ON the contract to be big, then he needs to sign elsewhere.  This is his chance to live every aging ballplayer's dream, to get paid well over his value.

Didn't he get paid well over his value for a few years in Florida?  I believe Mike Lowell is the reason a lot of teams passed on Beckett...No?

maxpower

Quote from: JoseQViper on November 15, 2007, 04:00:41 PM
Quote from: maxpower on November 15, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on November 15, 2007, 03:53:12 PM
Ortiz wasn't a part-timer in Minnesota.  The only thing that changed for him was hitting in front of Manny Ramirez.  Ortiz is much easier to pitch around when Cory Koskie/Doug Mietkiewicz/AJ Pierzynski are hitting behind him.  Without Manny, Ortiz is a slightly above average ballplayer.

I think that's BS Jose. Protection in the lineup doesn't matter all that much.

Why not?  Hitting fastballs in the strike zone is significantly easier than hitting breaking balls in the dirt.  Especially when you are a dead red hitter.


I think it has a lot more to do with hitting his prime exactly has he started with Boston, age 27, which is when most ballplayers start to. Manny had a down year (for him) this year, and most teams were cognizant of that around June. Why continue to pitch to Ortiz when he is still slaughtering the ball?



Quote from: Tags on November 15, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 15, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
If Lowell is smart he will resign with Boston, he won't put up those numbers in any other park.  The Sox will be smart to resign him, there isn't a better 3rd baseman out there even if his production slips a little.  Unless they want to give up young players for Cabrera from FL.

Which is why one must ask why they ever gave up Hanley Ramirez.

Uh, they gave up Hanley Ramirez to get Josh Beckett, maybe the most important member of the team that won the world series somewhat recently.

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Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 15, 2007, 04:24:00 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on November 15, 2007, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on November 15, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
If Lowell is smart he will resign with Boston, he won't put up those numbers in any other park.  The Sox will be smart to resign him, there isn't a better 3rd baseman out there even if his production slips a little.  Unless they want to give up young players for Cabrera from FL.

I think the exact oppossite is true.  Forget the numbers he is going to put up after the contract.  If Lowell wants the numbers ON the contract to be big, then he needs to sign elsewhere.  This is his chance to live every aging ballplayer's dream, to get paid well over his value.

Didn't he get paid well over his value for a few years in Florida?  I believe Mike Lowell is the reason a lot of teams passed on Beckett...No?

Yes, you're right. I think teams saw the value in Beckett, but since Lowell was making such a hefty salary, and the two were packaged together, nobody wanted him---that was mainly b/c Lowell was getting older, and he had a dismal 2006 season.

Toph

Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 15, 2007, 04:23:20 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2007, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 15, 2007, 07:43:50 AM
did anybody read the team capsules?
under how far will they go---in the east bracket every one says the road ends in alliance.

hmmm.

they have already crowned muc--so why bother play the games right?

god- i just wish somebody would beat them already!

"THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE"

Oddly enough, we say that every year and with 12 consecutive trips to the semifinals we have yet to be wrong.

It's annoying to read every year, but if I were writing it, it would be the same thing.  I can't disagree, I just hope someone can knock them off...or atleast score a touchdown on them...

Somebody is going to score a touchdown on them, maybe Ithaca.  I don't think anyone is going to score enough touchdowns on them.

SJFF82

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2007, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 15, 2007, 07:43:50 AM
did anybody read the team capsules?
under how far will they go---in the east bracket every one says the road ends in alliance.

hmmm.

they have already crowned muc--so why bother play the games right?

god- i just wish somebody would beat them already!

"THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE"

Oddly enough, we say that every year and with 12 consecutive trips to the semifinals we have yet to be wrong.
Oddly enough, I get the sense that the staff at d3.com is a bit perturbed that 'they' did not predict all 32 or more importantly 'see it coming'...."it" meaning the shake-up of the brackets.  I have read countless comments either on daily dose, ATN, PP blogs that suggest as much to me.  And with all the "SJF Fan" banter on the Daily Dose the past few days, it seems that the D3.com staff, among banning posters from expressing their opinion about the OAC, is going out of its otherwise impartial way to pay lip service to MUC's reign supreme.  No biggy...just my observations.

Pat Coleman

We LOVE the bracket, are you kidding me? Did you read where I said they'd had this power since 1999 and it's about time they used it? I only wrote a whole column on it.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/11/11/New-look+bracket+long+overdue

Quote from: SJFF82 on November 15, 2007, 04:45:45 PM
Oddly enough, I get the sense that the staff at d3.com is a bit perturbed that 'they' did not predict all 32 or more importantly 'see it coming'...."it" meaning the shake-up of the brackets. 
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

SJFF82

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2007, 04:47:48 PM
We LOVE the bracket, are you kidding me? Did you read where I said they'd had this power since 1999 and it's about time they used it? I only wrote a whole column on it.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/11/11/New-look+bracket+long+overdue

Quote from: SJFF82 on November 15, 2007, 04:45:45 PM
Oddly enough, I get the sense that the staff at d3.com is a bit perturbed that 'they' did not predict all 32 or more importantly 'see it coming'...."it" meaning the shake-up of the brackets. 
I hear ya...I wasnt suggesting that 'you' didnt like the bracket itself, just that maybe you didnt like that you didnt predict it so to speak...

And as if you dont hear it enough...thanks for the hard work in running this site to all our benefit.

fredsdriveinn

Quote from: Upstate on November 14, 2007, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: TheeBuffaloSabres on November 14, 2007, 11:00:31 PM
guys guys guys, i know the sabres are playin bad now but they will get out of it, no need to insult them like that.
and a bills scout will be in alliance saturday, no pun intended for the nyers, but he wont be there for anyone from ithaca.

Honestly, there isnt one guy on MUC's roster that would make it past a work out.....


Honestly, you're wrong but that's your opinion.  People paid to scout college talent would disagree.

Ironic twist: Your Buffalo Bills thought enough of a former Mount Union QB to add him to your roster a few years back.  Now that's honest...and funny!