FB: Empire 8

[maninyellowhat]

Superman lives 3+ hours from Rochester and works two jobs... so for him to make it out to A GAME is pretty good... which is why he will be at Fisher-IC

Supe, is your ihop team name a reference to Asher Roth?

[maninyellowhat]

Rowdy wants to know who has the parking pass for Z-lot and who will be bringing what to the game.  FDC needs to get their asses organized... we're already 2 games in!!!

someone i.e.  MIYH needs to make Rowdy an Admin on the FDC Facebook group so that he can contact everyone  (yes, NRSB is gettin' salty).

good "w" Bombers.  FDC is expecting to see the game stepped up alot more.  Confidence is key... we'll be there Saterday to back ya up. btw, any really tall WR's this year?  Rowdy wants to bring back the "Throw it to _____, he's tall!" wicked bad.

So ready for some toe-touches, some herkies, and booga boogas, throw in a couple safety dances, and a "PLETHORA!" of "WHERRRRRE's hEEEEEEE gOooooooinnnnnnns?!!"

EHHHHHHHHH Bombers!

You sure whine a lot for someone who hasn't been to a game this season.

[maninyellowhat]

Any one catch the end of the Denver/San Diego game! Holy 2 point conversion Batman! This misplaced Bronco fan was pretty excited yesterday.

The town was pretty nuts as a result.  I don't know that I've ever seen a home team go for two to win it, except on Madden of course.  But I was in the same boat as 'gro.  Cutler was my backup pick to Brady, so his botched fumble call=touchdown+two point conversion was pretty nice for this Bronco fan.  Their offense looks like the Pats last year.  A lot of shotgun formations and just letting Cutler air it out.  They're a really fun team to watch this year (at least two games in).

[superman57]

Superman lives 3+ hours from Rochester and works two jobs... so for him to make it out to A GAME is pretty good... which is why he will be at Fisher-IC

Supe, is your ihop team name a reference to Asher Roth?

no is was a reference to the fact that I passed an IHOP on my way home and was hungry...

[fishfan]

Got an email from my grandson this morning, thats right grandson, wanted to about the minus 7 karma, emailed backed, just like golf I'm 7 under karma.
Low is where you need to go. The swing is groved, nothing but flag hunting cause I' rolling the rock. UR/Fisher + 70 points last one holding the ball loses.
Like to see Fisher Offense set, shift and motion all night. Big game for Jimmy Smith.

[fisheralum91]

now fish fan--that is much more like it----keep the handicap low and expectations high!

[ICemanJK]

Anyone else going to the 'Wick-IC game this weekend?

iceman will be there, look for the giant orange cowboy hat if you wanna meet up!

[KonArtist33]

Anyone else going to the 'Wick-IC game this weekend?

I wish I could make it. It should be an awesome game again.... I home Wick doesn't keep it close enough this year where they need a fake-punt to win the game.

[superman57]

Anyone else going to the 'Wick-IC game this weekend?

I wish I could make it. It should be an awesome game again.... I home Wick doesn't keep it close enough this year where they need a fake-punt to win the game.

I'm torn, part of me wants to prove that Hartwick is not legit, but I also want to see Ithaca lose

[gobombers15]

Ok, going to try to make a full-time return back to this board now that we've got all the OOC games out of the way. A few random musings:

-Like this board, GB15 will be making his return to Butter Field this weekend for the first time since '05 Cortaca (the warmest game in Cortaca history). I can enjoy Septembers much more now that I'm only 2 hours from Ithaca and no longer have to worry about hurricanes crushing New Orleans.

-I'm surprised the Fisher fans aren't more worried about their run defense after giving up 225 yds on the ground to Buff State. About 70 of those came on a garbage time drive, but 150 through 3.5 quarters isn't that great, either. Fisher shut down Buff State's passing game, but am I wrong to say that Fisher defenses of the past would have completely shut down a one-dimensional offense like that?

-Once again, barring a major upset in Ithaca this weekend (and it would be a major upset if Hartwick won in Ithaca), the de facto E8 Championship Game takes place on September 27th in Pittsford (cue slighted Alfred fans). I've said it in the past and I'll continue to say it: I HATE that Fisher/Ithaca is played in September. Can we at least get the game in mid-October? I don't like games with that consistently have that much importance to be played in September. The rivalry is there now. Push it back.

-Grow that Butter Field grass loooong this weekend for the boys from Hartwick.

-Anyone else notice that 'Wick has byes before both the Ithaca and Fisher games? Strategic. They have only 9 scheduled games and will have played only 2 when the calendar flips to October.

-Where is Tecmo? With his Cubs doing well, I thought he'd be posting endlessly. Tecmo, you still in the CNY region?

[maninorangehat]

Any one catch the end of the Denver/San Diego game! Holy 2 point conversion Batman! This misplaced Bronco fan was pretty excited yesterday.

The town was pretty nuts as a result.  I don't know that I've ever seen a home team go for two to win it, except on Madden of course.  But I was in the same boat as 'gro.  Cutler was my backup pick to Brady, so his botched fumble call=touchdown+two point conversion was pretty nice for this Bronco fan.  Their offense looks like the Pats last year.  A lot of shotgun formations and just letting Cutler air it out.  They're a really fun team to watch this year (at least two games in).

MIOH hopes you celebrated at the Inn with some good denverites on Sunday. 

MIOH has Eddie Royal as the token Bronco on his roster so he was exited as well.

GG15 - MIOH doesn't want to speak for Tecmo... but MIOH thinks that 100 years of history has made him a little reluctant to post anything positive about his beloved Cubs prematurely (see Mets fans 2001-present). 

While MIOH would love to see the Fisher game pushed back... he also wouldn't want to Play Fisher and Cortland in back to back weeks.

NSRB - Stop being such a whiner. 

Go Bombers.

[Bombers798891]

Hartwick's offense is legit, but they may eventually want to work on putting a defense together...even accounting for the idiotic college football overtime rules that screw up scoring, they still allowed 27 or more points nine times last season. Allowing 34 points a game is not something elite teams do. They've been giving up 30+ points a game for years now, and they'll start being legit the day they stop.

Here are their totals

2007: 34.9
2006: 31.4
2005: 38.8
2004: 32.1
2003: 30.1

The first game this seaosn? 37 more

The 2007 team won five conference games last season by a total of 16 points. Wins are wins are wins I suppose, but if you're banking on winning EVERY close game and your offense HAS to put up 35 points every game, you're not going to be succesful for long.

Look at last year's playoff game. Up 7-0, Curry's defense starts getting turnovers. They intercept a pass in the endzone and score on the ensuing to go up 14-0. Then, after a fumble, Hartwick's defense is unable to stop a 1st and 22, making it 21-0. Then it's another pick, and a TD on the next play for a 28-0 lead. Hartwick drives into the redzone and Curry's defense forces four straight incompletions. Later, another 1st and 10 in the redzone, three incompletions and a 1 yard rush marks another turnover on downs. Then, after two more turnovers, one of which puts the ball at the 5, 'Wick is unable to hold Curry off right before the half, allowing a TD with no time on the clock. After getting their first TD, Hartwick drives back into the Redzone, but is unable to score after a 1st and Goal. Rather than keeping Curry pinned back, Hartwick allows a 98 yard drive in two plays. Down 42-7 in the 4th, Hartwick's defense finally decides to show up, recovering two fumbles and stopping Curry on two fourth downs, but at that point, it's too late.

Curry's defense made the plays when they needed to, and Hartwick's defense never bailed out their offense by getting a timely turnover or big defensive stop.

They made their plays in the regular season, but their offense kept them in the games to the point where all they needed was one stop. This isn't the kind of team that has a defense they can rely on for 60 minutes week in and week out. And that will be their downfall every year.

Look at some other E8 teams who have made recent runs in the NCAA's. (Some of these runs were before the E8 was the E8)

Ithaca, '01: 15.9 PA
Ithaca, '03: 14.7 PA
SJF: '07: 14.9 PA
SJF: '06: 13.7 PA

The reason those teams could make those runs? Defense. The 2001 Bombers won two road games with a backup QB. The 2003 team won 14-9 at Brockport. Fisher hung with Mount Union in 2006 because their defense kept them in it. And their '07 team allowed only 14 points in their two playoff wins.

Every single one of those four teams had offense scoring over 27 points a game, and three of them scored over 30. But these teams made their marks by having strong defenses as well. Hartwick may win a conference title every now and then if they , but they'll never truly be considered a East power (at least by me) until they have a good defense.

[gobombers15]

Any one catch the end of the Denver/San Diego game! Holy 2 point conversion Batman! This misplaced Bronco fan was pretty excited yesterday.

The town was pretty nuts as a result.  I don't know that I've ever seen a home team go for two to win it, except on Madden of course.  But I was in the same boat as 'gro.  Cutler was my backup pick to Brady, so his botched fumble call=touchdown+two point conversion was pretty nice for this Bronco fan.  Their offense looks like the Pats last year.  A lot of shotgun formations and just letting Cutler air it out.  They're a really fun team to watch this year (at least two games in).

GG15 - MIOH doesn't want to speak for Tecmo... but MIOH thinks that 100 years of history has made him a little reluctant to post anything positive about his beloved Cubs prematurely (see Mets fans 2001-present). 

While MIOH would love to see the Fisher game pushed back... he also wouldn't want to Play Fisher and Cortland in back to back weeks.

1) As a Mets fan, I'll take anything that involves them in the playoffs this year. I think they're much better than last year at this time, but the media is already starting the "Mets fading" headlines after simply losing 3 of 4. I hope they don't start buying into it, themselves. I think they'll be OK.

2) Not asking for Fisher and Cortland as back-to-back. Rather, I'd like to see them play in mid-October with the Utica or Alfred games moved to the earlier September date. Ithaca seems to get better as the season progresses and the weather gets more foul.

Very exited about this weekend. Went to Ithaca in August but didn't get the chance to get up to the alma mater. I'm sure it will look different since I haven't stepped foot on campus in a long while. We have a parking pass (from a friend of a friend) so we'll be in the lot before the game. Hope to see some of you guys there.

[maxpower]

I can enjoy Septembers much more now that I'm only 2 hours from Ithaca

Not in Max's hometown of Rochester by any chance?

[gobombers15]

I can enjoy Septembers much more now that I'm only 2 hours from Ithaca

Not in Max's hometown of Rochester by any chance?

Correct. Somewhat temporary, however. Moving to the District this fall to start working. But that doesn't start until mid-October. Naturally, I picked the very last day in which we could start working to start working. Trying to maximize my time off and Bomber-watching. I will certainly be at the Fisher game, as well.