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theoriginalupstate

Another sign that things just are not right at SJF:

This will be the first time since 2000 that there will not be a 1,000yd rusher at SJF. 

Thats just a kick in the balls to this former offensive lineman.

SJFF82

Quote from: Upstate on October 17, 2008, 07:12:43 PM
Another sign that things just are not right at SJF:

This will be the first time since 2000 that there will not be a 1,000yd rusher at SJF. 

Thats just a kick in the balls to this former offensive lineman.

Somebody oughta kick us both in the balls...we almost got enough kids combined to run 7 on 7

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: SJFF82 on October 17, 2008, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 17, 2008, 07:12:43 PM
Another sign that things just are not right at SJF:

This will be the first time since 2000 that there will not be a 1,000yd rusher at SJF. 

Thats just a kick in the balls to this former offensive lineman.

Somebody oughta kick us both in the balls...we almost got enough kids combined to run 7 on 7

So true, ive got another boy coming in Jan...

My wife is talking about a 4th already just to even out the numbers...

One things for sure, im going to have the lineman covered!

My boy (19 months) is a fricking tank already, he's already the same size as his sister who is turning 4 in Jan!!!

labart96

Quote from: SJFF82 on October 17, 2008, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 17, 2008, 07:12:43 PM
Another sign that things just are not right at SJF:

This will be the first time since 2000 that there will not be a 1,000yd rusher at SJF. 

Thats just a kick in the balls to this former offensive lineman.

Somebody oughta kick us both in the balls...we almost got enough kids combined to run 7 on 7

as a dad with 2 kids and considering a 3rd this is about the best post i've seen on this board for quite some time!

fisheralum91

well boys- i have a couple of sons that are more on the wide out/ corner build so if ya need a db or wr-- i got em

Frank Rossi

Quote from: TGP on October 17, 2008, 11:27:54 PM
Quote from: SJFF82 on October 17, 2008, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 17, 2008, 07:12:43 PM
Another sign that things just are not right at SJF:

This will be the first time since 2000 that there will not be a 1,000yd rusher at SJF. 

Thats just a kick in the balls to this former offensive lineman.

Somebody oughta kick us both in the balls...we almost got enough kids combined to run 7 on 7

as a dad with 2 kids and considering a 3rd this is about the best post i've seen on this board for quite some time!

Put it away, TGP... It's got a long shelf life if you need to use it for such purposes again...

Saxon73

" No matter the differences, brilliance always finds a common ground."  -  Stephen Colbert

theoriginalupstate

SJF has gone from an extremely balanced team over the years into Hartwick 2.0, no rushing threat what-so-ever!!

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
SJF has gone from an extremely balanced team over the years into Hartwick 2.0, no rushing threat what-so-ever!!

I havent seen them this year, but could it be because for 7 of the last 10 years they had 2 of the better backs in the history of upstate football?

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2008, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
SJF has gone from an extremely balanced team over the years into Hartwick 2.0, no rushing threat what-so-ever!!

I havent seen them this year, but could it be because for 7 of the last 10 years they had 2 of the better backs in the history of upstate football?

They've totally gone to the spread option zone read crap instead of being under center and running the zone run scheme that produced those 1,000yd RB's....




Jonny Utah

Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 12:25:50 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2008, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
SJF has gone from an extremely balanced team over the years into Hartwick 2.0, no rushing threat what-so-ever!!

I havent seen them this year, but could it be because for 7 of the last 10 years they had 2 of the better backs in the history of upstate football?

They've totally gone to the spread option zone read crap instead of being under center and running the zone run scheme that produced those 1,000yd RB's....





Im saying maybe they changed their offense because they don't have those 1000 yard rbs?

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 12:25:50 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2008, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
SJF has gone from an extremely balanced team over the years into Hartwick 2.0, no rushing threat what-so-ever!!

I havent seen them this year, but could it be because for 7 of the last 10 years they had 2 of the better backs in the history of upstate football?

They've totally gone to the spread option zone read crap instead of being under center and running the zone run scheme that produced those 1,000yd RB's....





Im saying maybe they changed their offense because they don't have those 1000 yard rbs?

Carlton would be alot more effective if he was getting the hand offs from the QB when he came out from under center, he would be hidden by the lineman and his cutbacks would be alot more effective.  Instead of attacking the line with Carlton they are having him run lateral.  They are limiting their entire offense with this, there is no threat of play action what so ever.  Their bootlegs out of the Shotgun require a super human effort by the QB to complete the pass.  It just looks like a total cluster **** out there on offense.

pumkinattack

JU could make a fair point.  I also understand what Upstate is saying about the scheme/system, but I recall playing SJF in the mid to late 90's when they weren't nearly as successful and they had good size (and physical presence) on their line(s).  I saw the Bart - SJF playoff game last year and I don't think the line(s) was (are) necessarily any bigger or more physical than back then.  The lineman could be more skilled (to the extent that this is a large factor, I was an lb, but get good vs. bad use of hands, footwork, etc.). 

Could it be that the coaches don't think (or know) they have the skill/talent at RB to run that system?  Right or wrong? 

Bombers798891

Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 12:25:50 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2008, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
SJF has gone from an extremely balanced team over the years into Hartwick 2.0, no rushing threat what-so-ever!!

I havent seen them this year, but could it be because for 7 of the last 10 years they had 2 of the better backs in the history of upstate football?

They've totally gone to the spread option zone read crap instead of being under center and running the zone run scheme that produced those 1,000yd RB's....





Im saying maybe they changed their offense because they don't have those 1000 yard rbs?

Carlton would be alot more effective if he was getting the hand offs from the QB when he came out from under center, he would be hidden by the lineman and his cutbacks would be alot more effective.  Instead of attacking the line with Carlton they are having him run lateral.  They are limiting their entire offense with this, there is no threat of play action what so ever.  Their bootlegs out of the Shotgun require a super human effort by the QB to complete the pass.  It just looks like a total cluster **** out there on offense.

Over their last four games, they're averaging 37 points a game in regulation. What exactly is the problem with the offense again? Could it be that a defense that's allowed 113 points in three losses might be to blame?


boobyhasgameyo

Quote from: Bombers798891 on October 19, 2008, 05:38:47 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 12:33:51 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 12:25:50 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 19, 2008, 12:20:14 PM
Quote from: Upstate on October 19, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
SJF has gone from an extremely balanced team over the years into Hartwick 2.0, no rushing threat what-so-ever!!

I havent seen them this year, but could it be because for 7 of the last 10 years they had 2 of the better backs in the history of upstate football?

They've totally gone to the spread option zone read crap instead of being under center and running the zone run scheme that produced those 1,000yd RB's....





Im saying maybe they changed their offense because they don't have those 1000 yard rbs?

Carlton would be alot more effective if he was getting the hand offs from the QB when he came out from under center, he would be hidden by the lineman and his cutbacks would be alot more effective.  Instead of attacking the line with Carlton they are having him run lateral.  They are limiting their entire offense with this, there is no threat of play action what so ever.  Their bootlegs out of the Shotgun require a super human effort by the QB to complete the pass.  It just looks like a total cluster **** out there on offense.

Over their last four games, they're averaging 37 points a game in regulation. What exactly is the problem with the offense again? Could it be that a defense that's allowed 113 points in three losses might be to blame?



No the offense is definitely not as good as it has been.  The defense outside of the debacle that was Salisbury I think has been solid.  No shame in giving up 33 to Mount Union who is averaging 49 points per game against everybody else.  Held Hartwick to 10 points below their season average, but our offense cost us that game.  Then there is holding U of R to 17, Buffalo State to 7 (on a garbage time touchdown), Norwich to 6 points, and Ithaca to 6 points.