FB: Liberty League

[Naked Nott Run]

NNR would like to see the D3 winner face the worst D-1 team *Duke* to see if their  is a huge difference? NNR believes the NCAA should take on the soccer format.... Every year the top 5-10 D3 teams move up to D-1 or 1-AA and the 10 worst move down... lol Imagine  Mount Union Vs. Ohio State for the
Buffalo Wild Wings on Westerly Golden Wing Trophey... sigh

NOTE- THis is not at all to say D3 should be the place for losing teams at all.. would just love to see our best mix it up with the big boys to see the real difference.

[Frank Rossi]

Anyone else think it would be cool if the ECAC's were played on like Wendsday and used as a play in game, so it was given more attention. The short rest would be the team's disadvantage... just a thought

Na...good thought but then the other part of the country would have to get a shot at that too.  I guess you could make it 64 teams if you wanted too, and just start a week earlier.

I think the Ncaa has a formula for the playoffs (for all sports) so that for every 12-20 teams or something there is one playoff spot. 

What should be done but its been beat to a dead horse on this site, is just have upstate new york schedules (and other teams like NJ, Springfield or whoever) made up by someone at the end of every year. 

I think the access ratio they try to maintain is 7:1 (one slot for every seven teams in the Division that are playoff eligible).

Frank use to have a 7:1 ratio when he was our radio guy ... NNR use to look to the booth after a pause in action by Frank... NNR saw 7 exotic women from Victoria Secret massaging and feeding Frank... NNR never got invited to the booth

Hey, I never said it was easy being Frank Rossi.

[Naked Nott Run]

the weekly NBA post on LLPP.... Picture 1's photographer get +100 karma from NNR

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0611/gallery.nba.cheerleaders1117/content.1.html?eref=fromFront_yahoo

You will want to zoom in... NNR is at work so is not allowed...and has not decided on being a complete perv haha

Picture 3 can really handle her balls

[Frank Rossi]

gro loves beating dead horses... who's on tap for RPI in '07? Sesquehanna (sp) enters the LL and that replaces the Becker game... but what about Utica, Endicott, and the all important 10th game gro has been screaming about for years??

Gro says keep playing Endicott (mild)
Keep utica or replace with Hartwick or Brockport (medium)
Add 1 GOOD team SJF, IC, Cort, Springfield (hot!!)

I think Union and Hobart proved this year that a 10th game is unnecessary, and perhaps detrimental, as long as your non-conference opponents have a pulse.  In Union's case, had Union beaten Springfield, Union would have had two ways into the playoffs:  beat Hobart (for the LL) or beat RPI (for Pool C).  In Hobart's case, 8-1 got them into the 5th seed.  Note that Cortland and Franklin, the 33rd and 34th teams in the Pool of 32, both finished at 9-1.

The only way a 10th game could matter, in my opinion, is if it comes down to a Pool C bid whereby a two-loss team needs to be or could be admitted.  However, this might affect one team each year, at most.  Is it worth risking that second loss on a 10th game when that game could sour your playoff chances if you lose and do very little if you win?  We probably will have some disagreement here, but I'd say that it isn't worth it any more.

If you want a 10th game, then the school might want to consider playing it out of region (in order to have it eliminated from primary consideration and from QoW numbers).  Otherwise, I don't see where LL teams gain much from it anymore.

['gro]

Gro likes the 10th game just for the players sake... one more time on the field. imagine that the cupcake team is the 10th game, not the Good team

goal #1 is to win the LL, so adding a good team is a safe bet. the catch is, you gotta win that non-conference game, it helped Hobart get in this year (beating Alfred) and gro has always given union their props (gasp) for playing springfield and muhlenberg (sp).

[Rolevio]

Gro likes the 10th game just for the players sake... one more time on the field. imagine that the cupcake team is the 10th game, not the Good team

goal #1 is to win the LL, so adding a good team is a safe bet. the catch is, you gotta win that non-conference game, it helped Hobart get in this year (beating Alfred) and gro has always given union their props (gasp) for playing springfield and muhlenberg (sp).

Rolevio is going to have to agree with 'Gro on this one, a 10th game is always better for the players sake.  This is especially true now that the LL is no longer a Pool B league.

[Frank Rossi]

Gro likes the 10th game just for the players sake... one more time on the field. imagine that the cupcake team is the 10th game, not the Good team

goal #1 is to win the LL, so adding a good team is a safe bet. the catch is, you gotta win that non-conference game, it helped Hobart get in this year (beating Alfred) and gro has always given union their props (gasp) for playing springfield and muhlenberg (sp).

Rolevio is going to have to agree with 'Gro on this one, a 10th game is always better for the players sake.  This is especially true now that the LL is no longer a Pool B league.

However, the players don't make the schedule.  At the end of the day, it's the Athletic Departments at the LL schools that do.  The 10th game mattered more when the LL teams were in Pool B, to be honest.  There were even tougher comparisons that had to be made back then, especially with only 28 slots instead of 32.  There is revenue for every team that makes the NCAA Playoffs, and that matters to these schools.  I understand the player would love a 10th game, but there's a disconnect at schools between the players and the schedule makers that will probably cause 10th games to go by the wayside (or many more out-of-region games with split-revenue agreements).

[Regulator]

PBR, gro likes the idea... but that would create world peace for what... an hour? 2?

In LD11's case it would create world peace for 1.5 mins.

[maxpower]

Reno is wondering whether the LL is now better than the NJAC?

Sound silly? Think about this past weekend:

1. Hobart (#2 in LL) pushes NJAC's #1 Team (Rowan) to the limit.
2. RPI (#4 in LL) beats NJAC's #2 Team handily.

Tough to say at this point. You can't really judge anything by the ECACs, and keep in mind that next year will have a whole new look... that's the thing about college. And Rowan has been all over the place this season.

['gro]

PBR, gro likes the idea... but that would create world peace for what... an hour? 2?

In LD11's case it would create world peace for 1.5 mins.

haha, but gro meant that timeframe after the deed... you know when all you want is a sammich.  Imagine the lines at quiznos if this big Oh day went though.

[PBR...]

mmmm....quiznos....man pbr luv's this time of year....you can eat/drink non stop 24/7 and not feel guilty....bring on the deep fried turkey for pbr has to build up his stamina for 30 days out from now when the world comes together and has one big luv fest....

[mattvsmith]

Yesterday it was 89 degrees and sunny in Phoenix.
Today, it is a chilly 85 and sunny.

The Rev doesn't know how much longer he can take these wild swings in temperature.

The Rev thinks he better move back to Geneva, NY where the weather is more reasonable.

[PBR...]

pbr is a big skier and picked up the sleds from shop yesterday and they are sharpened and waxed and ready to roll....bring on the white flakes from the sky

[lewdogg11]

gro loves beating dead horses... who's on tap for RPI in '07? Sesquehanna (sp) enters the LL and that replaces the Becker game... but what about Utica, Endicott, and the all important 10th game gro has been screaming about for years??

Gro says keep playing Endicott (mild)
Keep utica or replace with Hartwick or Brockport (medium)
Add 1 GOOD team SJF, IC, Cort, Springfield (hot!!)

Gro... do you think adding the extra good team would be helpful or hurtful... every year there is a very good shot at dropping one to Union or Hobart... is a 9-1 record with 2 strong conference opponents and a mild out of conference schedule better or worse than a 8-2 record with a loss to a powerhouse and a good conference team?

That is a long run on sentence sorry

I think if RPI had played a better opponent than Becker and Utica, they might not have lost to Rochester and St. Lawrence.  Playing these cupcakes, makes you have a sense of compacency.  RPI had that in the 4th quarter twice, against teams who actually had heart and didn't quit and it bit them in the ass.  If you're good enough, if you schedule good teams, that should only make you better.  If you can't beat them, maybe you don't belong in the playoffs anyway?

[union89]

How are we allowing the Cortland State fan's to slither out of 2006 unscathed??

Thank God RPI rolled the Dragons in the ECAC Game.  Prior to the game, the Cortland supporters were b!tching and moaning that they got screwed by the committee....initially, U89 actually had some sympathy for their situation.  The complaining got sooooo bad that U89 began to hate everything Cortland.  Dragon fans tossed rocks at Ithaca for declining a possible invite to the ECAC's....Instead of going out and proving their arguement against RPI, CS got smoked....proving the committee correct.  Post ECAC, the CS fans come on here and claim that the ECAC game was not important to them and didn't matter to the '06 season.

Sorry Cortland...doesn't work that way!!!  What did RPI have to play for their final 2 games....they spoiled Unions season by killing a possible home NCAA date in Schenectady, then the next week they smoked the Dragon's in Cortland!!  This should help RPI with their recruiting and moving into the '07 season......Either prove the committee wrong with a drubbing of RPI or stay home like Ithaca.

U89 votes for the Cortland State Dragon fans as the biggest whinners of 2006....congrats, your prize is a bronze cup filled with frozen cat turd!!