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[JQV]

no one answered truth's question about that pic in knightstalker's signature?  she's coming out of the water and oh man, she's hott.  who is that lady and where can the truth meet her?

Not representing our generation well Truth.  I know we aren't as old as the regulars on LLPP but you still gotta know that is straight outta Fast Times at Ridgemont High

[realistic]

truth - jose is right, that was bad form.  If you haven't seen it, you need to rent it this evening.

[Dr. xGSC]

no one answered truth's question about that pic in knightstalker's signature?  she's coming out of the water and oh man, she's hott.  who is that lady and where can the truth meet her?

Phoebe Cates

http://mt.hockeybird.com/images/bird/2004/phoebe-cates-white.jpg

[icgrad87]

no one answered truth's question about that pic in knightstalker's signature?  she's coming out of the water and oh man, she's hott.  who is that lady and where can the truth meet her?

heres another pic that happens right after she gets out of the water..

[sumander]

no one answered truth's question about that pic in knightstalker's signature?  she's coming out of the water and oh man, she's hott.  who is that lady and where can the truth meet her?

Truth, Visiting from the MIAC board, go here to see the rest of the sequence on Ms. Cates.

Enjoy. 

[Frank Rossi]

He wants the flexibility of having his own computer (read -> does not want to share!). A PC would be much easier and less expensive, but since he wants it for Christmas, we are trying to make it happen. Just hard to justify $500+ for a laptop. We use Comcast for Internet service. Do laptops have wireless router capability for internet use?

Appreciate the help and +k for your reply.

Let RT be blunt with you.....you are looking at closer to $1000 for a decent laptop that can do what you ask for and last you a few years. You'll want the extended warranty option of any manufacturer...laptops are more fragile and odds are, you're going to need a service call in year 2 or 3 and those aren't cheap. Plus, since it's for a kid, if he dropps it or spills Yoohoo on it, you're SOL if you don't have a maintenance plan. They're not cheap either but cheaper than replacing the laptop.

Any laptop that someone offers at $500 is a dog....it's like throwing money away. It'll be obsolete in a year, maybe less, at the rate of technology refreshes. Plus, it won't have the setup you need for gaming or extended warranty.

Yes...most 'good' laptops have wireless (b and g) cards built in nowadays but el cheapo laptop probably won't but you can add a wireless card easily in the slot.

Again, RT suggests you go to best buy and get your hands on the different PC's and go that route. Or call up Dell and go that direction. RT is an IBM guy and will tell you flat out that Dell or HP are the way to go for a home PC in terms of support and bundling they do to give a good deal. If you're adamant on a laptop and are willing to spend $1000-1300, send RT an email and he'll work with you...

I've gotta disagree slightly with RT on this one...or at least hone down his pessimism.  About 18-24 months ago, he was spot-on with this assessment.  Since then, Intel/AMD have not exactly done wonders in terms of their processors and memory configurations have not gone through the roof.  Thus, some of the older configurations of laptops that are now on closeout are actually worth a look.  He's right, I think, about gamers needing more power (memory, video card, processor), but my guess is that if your kids want to play high-powered video games, you'd be investing in a PS3 or XBox 360.   I'd sniff around some online sites like Pricegrabber and play with different companies and different stock models that might be aging, yet powerful.  Your best bet, IMHO, is to look through HP laptops for such deals.  You might also consider looking at ubid.com at least to get some ideas.  My assessment of what you should be spending, as long as you don't need it tomorrow, is about $750-850 for something sufficient.  Go with the extended warranty.

[superman57]

also sometimes they give nice student discounts not sure how to get it

[Dr. xGSC]

Thanks for the help!

[superman57]

anytime

[Senor RedTackle]

He wants the flexibility of having his own computer (read -> does not want to share!). A PC would be much easier and less expensive, but since he wants it for Christmas, we are trying to make it happen. Just hard to justify $500+ for a laptop. We use Comcast for Internet service. Do laptops have wireless router capability for internet use?

Appreciate the help and +k for your reply.

Let RT be blunt with you.....you are looking at closer to $1000 for a decent laptop that can do what you ask for and last you a few years. You'll want the extended warranty option of any manufacturer...laptops are more fragile and odds are, you're going to need a service call in year 2 or 3 and those aren't cheap. Plus, since it's for a kid, if he dropps it or spills Yoohoo on it, you're SOL if you don't have a maintenance plan. They're not cheap either but cheaper than replacing the laptop.

Any laptop that someone offers at $500 is a dog....it's like throwing money away. It'll be obsolete in a year, maybe less, at the rate of technology refreshes. Plus, it won't have the setup you need for gaming or extended warranty.

Yes...most 'good' laptops have wireless (b and g) cards built in nowadays but el cheapo laptop probably won't but you can add a wireless card easily in the slot.

Again, RT suggests you go to best buy and get your hands on the different PC's and go that route. Or call up Dell and go that direction. RT is an IBM guy and will tell you flat out that Dell or HP are the way to go for a home PC in terms of support and bundling they do to give a good deal. If you're adamant on a laptop and are willing to spend $1000-1300, send RT an email and he'll work with you...

I've gotta disagree slightly with RT on this one...or at least hone down his pessimism.  About 18-24 months ago, he was spot-on with this assessment.  Since then, Intel/AMD have not exactly done wonders in terms of their processors and memory configurations have not gone through the roof.  Thus, some of the older configurations of laptops that are now on closeout are actually worth a look. 

RT does this for a living. Stick to law. your honor. AMD and Intel don't make memory, btw. And RT hopes you're not just referring to clock speed (ie, 3.0Ghz, 2.8GHz, etc) as the barometer for measuring the advancements of technology. Clock speed is irrelevant to a point because there's other issues..ie, how fast instructions move through a CPU, memory caching, and all kinds of other technical terms. Again, if you spend $500-750 on a laptop, you're wasting money. Period. If you were going to spend that, you could get significantly more bang for the buck on a pc.

[JQV]

He wants the flexibility of having his own computer (read -> does not want to share!). A PC would be much easier and less expensive, but since he wants it for Christmas, we are trying to make it happen. Just hard to justify $500+ for a laptop. We use Comcast for Internet service. Do laptops have wireless router capability for internet use?

Appreciate the help and +k for your reply.

Let RT be blunt with you.....you are looking at closer to $1000 for a decent laptop that can do what you ask for and last you a few years. You'll want the extended warranty option of any manufacturer...laptops are more fragile and odds are, you're going to need a service call in year 2 or 3 and those aren't cheap. Plus, since it's for a kid, if he dropps it or spills Yoohoo on it, you're SOL if you don't have a maintenance plan. They're not cheap either but cheaper than replacing the laptop.

Any laptop that someone offers at $500 is a dog....it's like throwing money away. It'll be obsolete in a year, maybe less, at the rate of technology refreshes. Plus, it won't have the setup you need for gaming or extended warranty.

Yes...most 'good' laptops have wireless (b and g) cards built in nowadays but el cheapo laptop probably won't but you can add a wireless card easily in the slot.

Again, RT suggests you go to best buy and get your hands on the different PC's and go that route. Or call up Dell and go that direction. RT is an IBM guy and will tell you flat out that Dell or HP are the way to go for a home PC in terms of support and bundling they do to give a good deal. If you're adamant on a laptop and are willing to spend $1000-1300, send RT an email and he'll work with you...

I've gotta disagree slightly with RT on this one...or at least hone down his pessimism.  About 18-24 months ago, he was spot-on with this assessment.  Since then, Intel/AMD have not exactly done wonders in terms of their processors and memory configurations have not gone through the roof.  Thus, some of the older configurations of laptops that are now on closeout are actually worth a look. 

RT does this for a living. Stick to law. your honor. AMD and Intel don't make memory, btw. And RT hopes you're not just referring to clock speed (ie, 3.0Ghz, 2.8GHz, etc) as the barometer for measuring the advancements of technology. Clock speed is irrelevant to a point because there's other issues..ie, how fast instructions move through a CPU, memory caching, and all kinds of other technical terms. Again, if you spend $500-750 on a laptop, you're wasting money. Period. If you were going to spend that, you could get significantly more bang for the buck on a pc.

When I saw RT posted on LL I knew it was going to be about Computers.  Yet, JoseQViper clicked anyway.  That is what I get.  Now my head hurts.  Thank god I went to IC.

[mattvsmith]

no one answered truth's question about that pic in knightstalker's signature?  she's coming out of the water and oh man, she's hott.  who is that lady and where can the truth meet her?

Truth,

The gal in KS's signature photo is Phoebe Cates.  Has been known as "Mrs. Kevin Kline" since 1989.

The Rev recommends starting with IMDB, and then googling images.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000121/

[mattvsmith]

no one answered truth's question about that pic in knightstalker's signature?  she's coming out of the water and oh man, she's hott.  who is that lady and where can the truth meet her?

Truth,

The gal in KS's signature photo is Phoebe Cates.  Has been known as "Mrs. Kevin Kline" since 1989.

The Rev recommends starting with IMDB, and then googling images.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000121/

By the way, when The Rev was a seminarian (for real) he showed a movie every Sunday night.  One week The Rev got the bright idea to show Fast Times at Ridgemont High.  The Rev was thinking about how funny the Spicoli receiving pizza in class scene, but forgot about the scenes that are--how can I put this discreetly?--were inapproriate for some youngsters.

The Rev got in deep doodoo, but no one explained why.  It wasn't until later The Rev added two plus two and realized, "Oh!  maybe someone complained about Phoebe Cates..."  The Rev doesn't know about you all, but a man who cannot at least appreciate Phoebe Cates naked, is not the kind of man I want as my priest.

Damn.

[Frank Rossi]

He wants the flexibility of having his own computer (read -> does not want to share!). A PC would be much easier and less expensive, but since he wants it for Christmas, we are trying to make it happen. Just hard to justify $500+ for a laptop. We use Comcast for Internet service. Do laptops have wireless router capability for internet use?

Appreciate the help and +k for your reply.

Let RT be blunt with you.....you are looking at closer to $1000 for a decent laptop that can do what you ask for and last you a few years. You'll want the extended warranty option of any manufacturer...laptops are more fragile and odds are, you're going to need a service call in year 2 or 3 and those aren't cheap. Plus, since it's for a kid, if he dropps it or spills Yoohoo on it, you're SOL if you don't have a maintenance plan. They're not cheap either but cheaper than replacing the laptop.

Any laptop that someone offers at $500 is a dog....it's like throwing money away. It'll be obsolete in a year, maybe less, at the rate of technology refreshes. Plus, it won't have the setup you need for gaming or extended warranty.

Yes...most 'good' laptops have wireless (b and g) cards built in nowadays but el cheapo laptop probably won't but you can add a wireless card easily in the slot.

Again, RT suggests you go to best buy and get your hands on the different PC's and go that route. Or call up Dell and go that direction. RT is an IBM guy and will tell you flat out that Dell or HP are the way to go for a home PC in terms of support and bundling they do to give a good deal. If you're adamant on a laptop and are willing to spend $1000-1300, send RT an email and he'll work with you...

I've gotta disagree slightly with RT on this one...or at least hone down his pessimism.  About 18-24 months ago, he was spot-on with this assessment.  Since then, Intel/AMD have not exactly done wonders in terms of their processors and memory configurations have not gone through the roof.  Thus, some of the older configurations of laptops that are now on closeout are actually worth a look. 

RT does this for a living. Stick to law. your honor. AMD and Intel don't make memory, btw. And RT hopes you're not just referring to clock speed (ie, 3.0Ghz, 2.8GHz, etc) as the barometer for measuring the advancements of technology. Clock speed is irrelevant to a point because there's other issues..ie, how fast instructions move through a CPU, memory caching, and all kinds of other technical terms. Again, if you spend $500-750 on a laptop, you're wasting money. Period. If you were going to spend that, you could get significantly more bang for the buck on a pc.

With all due respect RPI Techie Boy (couldn't resist), there should've been a comma before my "and memory" as if it were a separate clause.  Don't sell me THAT short such that you'd think I didn't know what Intel and AMD make.  And, no, I understand clock speeds.  If I were simply referring to them, I would have said that the chips have made NO advances in the last two years, since clock speeds have not eclipsed 4.0ghz.  I understand dual-core, 64-bit, etc. -- but the chips have not gone through the annual "doubling of power" that was expected from these companies during the 1995-2002 period, no matter how you quantify power in all this.  Processors have stagnated a bit in recent times in both laptops and desktops -- and I don't think that's an uninformed statement.

Plus, I said $750-850 was the bottom-line pricing someone should look at...I said nothing about sub-$750.

OK...I'm done.  Back to my wine and cheese.

[Tags]

RT- Good luck tomorrow.

Hope to meet you - will be up near the announcer's booth w/ ER so perhaps we could meet up at the half.