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[Regulator]

Reg - any comments about Rock of Love? This could be my favorite summer show. The really sloppy drunk girl was hilarious. Then there is that old girl "rodeo" who I can imagine has been ridden by half of all musicians that put out an album from 1980-89.

JT - document that stuff you send to SA, uncle sam will let you deduct that lynard skynard t-shirt from 1978... probably for more than it was ever worth.


p.s. No one mentions the little kid on the right in the bosox pic... he's the one with wet pants!

Yeah...one comment.  Was the guy wearing a cow fur coat when he came out for the elimination?  I mean it actually looked like a cow that was skinned.
MR's parents were in town this weekend.....they must have thought I was the biggest perv ever.  I think I threw up in my mouth every time Rodeo spoke....Is that a dude?

One last comment.  Does anyone notice that Brett makes out with every single one of the girls all the time.  Thought #1- how does he always have fresh breath- Thought #2- At what age does "making out" become uncool? Thought #3- Isn't he worried about some type of disease or  mouth fungus?

[JT]

Reg - any comments about Rock of Love? This could be my favorite summer show. The really sloppy drunk girl was hilarious. Then there is that old girl "rodeo" who I can imagine has been ridden by half of all musicians that put out an album from 1980-89.

JT - document that stuff you send to SA, uncle sam will let you deduct that lynard skynard t-shirt from 1978... probably for more than it was ever worth.


p.s. No one mentions the little kid on the right in the bosox pic... he's the one with wet pants!

Gro,

Got a receipt from the SA.  Some stuff still had tags on it. Let's face it JT ain't gonna see a 34 waist ever again.  Between the two of us it amounted to a little over $500.  Re: The Skynard shirt.... JT had to fight to keep his faded State Champs t-shirt that he used to wear under his pads.  

Will have a yard sale at the new place for the stuff that has value.

['gro]

Yes, that was a cow skin trench coat... and he seems to always wear a bandana AND a cowboy hat... I thought he was bald but he did show up for the phone scene without a hat on (plugs?).

Re: Breff
I don't think he has to worry about his breath, some of these girls look like they would makeout with the microphone stand if they were told it was Bret... but he should keep a bottle of 50/50 lysol & scope solution on himself at all times.  He's probably immune to (or already has) most mouth diseases ever created.

They are probably already working on Rodeo's spin off show. That other older chick (heather? that one that called out the other girl for being engaged) looks ruff, she was probably an extra in roadhouse.

[PBR...]

Reg - any comments about Rock of Love? This could be my favorite summer show. The really sloppy drunk girl was hilarious. Then there is that old girl "rodeo" who I can imagine has been ridden by half of all musicians that put out an album from 1980-89.

JT - document that stuff you send to SA, uncle sam will let you deduct that lynard skynard t-shirt from 1978... probably for more than it was ever worth.


p.s. No one mentions the little kid on the right in the bosox pic... he's the one with wet pants!

Yeah...one comment.  Was the guy wearing a cow fur coat when he came out for the elimination?  I mean it actually looked like a cow that was skinned.
MR's parents were in town this weekend.....they must have thought I was the biggest perv ever.  I think I threw up in my mouth every time Rodeo spoke....Is that a dude?

One last comment.  Does anyone notice that Brett makes out with every single one of the girls all the time.  Thought #1- how does he always have fresh breath- Thought #2- At what age does "making out" become uncool? Thought #3- Isn't he worried about some type of disease or  mouth fungus?

pbr(back from vaca of booze and surf) concurs wtf he is making out w/ every girl like he is in 7th grade. spit was flyin everwhere enuf already and graduate to at least h.s. if not college and strike up a little "lets get it on..." in the background or "raw hide" for rodeo....

[mattvsmith]

Thought #3- Isn't he worried about some type of disease or  mouth fungus?

How would an oral disease or mouth fungus be worse than anything he picked up on the road while with Poison?

He probably shows up to interviews with coldsores like Nigel Tufnel and David St. Hubbins did during one of the interview scenes in "This is...Spinal Tap."

[labart96]

Can TGP make it back East just once this season? TheRev has a 100% solid ready-to-roll plane-ticket-in-hand plan for the Hobart-RPI game.   If you fly into SYR Saturday a.m., my Dear Old Daddy can pick us both and we will all head to Geneva.  Consider it.  Pop has lots of extra bedrooms now that all the younger sibs are off to college.

Will store that one away.  September for some reason is shaping up to a potentially crazy month for TGP.

1st weekend - Labor Day.  Nuff said.
2nd weekend - wife away on trip, TGP holding down the fort.
3rd weekend - Invited to all day jam session in the 'Toga with several Hobart alums (and 'Toga folks).  Still considering feasibility.
4th - weekend - possible Cat Turd bowl trip?
5th weekend  - 24 hour vegas hit with buddies from LA

On a serious note - WELCOME BACK JONNY LESTER!!!

[PBR...]

Here is the hyperlink to the following article, just to keep it somewhat legal... -- Ralph Turner


things seem to be heating up in this debate....
By Matthew Keenan
     July 23 (Bloomberg) -- Sixty-one small American colleges
have mounted the biggest protest yet against U.S. News & World
Report magazine's annual rankings of higher education. The
survey's 25 premier schools aren't joining the rebellion.
     The presidents of Holy Cross, Lafayette, Trinity and 58
other liberal arts schools have pledged in the past 10 weeks to
withhold cooperation from Washington-based U.S. News on the most
controversial element of its 24-year-old survey, a questionnaire
asking colleges to assess competing schools.
     Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore and 23 other schools at the
top of the magazine's list have rebuffed requests to participate
from organizers of the revolt. While officials of the best-
regarded schools say they're concerned about the survey's
fairness, some of them promote their rating to donors, faculty
and students.
     ``This is a test of the character of higher education and the leadership,'' said Lloyd Thacker, 53, the executive director
of the nonprofit Education Conservancy in Portland, Oregon, an
opponent of rankings. ``I don't think we're done with this by any
way, shape or form.''
     U.S. News, with a circulation of 2 million, publishes its
next college rankings in August. Schools that haven't decided
whether to cooperate for 2009 don't have to make a choice until
early next year, when questionnaires will be circulated again.
     The number of schools in the three-month-old protest
increased in June when the Annapolis Group, an association of
liberal arts schools, debated the ratings at its annual meeting.
A majority of the 80 presidents in attendance indicated they
would boycott the peer review.
     While no top-25 liberal arts institution has publicly
endorsed the revolt, No. 1 Williams says it will stop promoting
its ranking. Fourth-rated Wellesley College has already sat out
the peer review for more than a decade, and last month Barnard
College opted out.     The campaign won't derail the rankings, U.S. News editor
Brian Kelly says.
     ``We serve our readers; we're not working for the
colleges,'' said Kelly, 52, in an interview. ``We are still going
to rank these schools, whether they cooperate or not.''
     Survey director Robert Morse said in a June presentation
that the magazine could turn to other educators, such as high
school counselors, to assess colleges' reputations.

     U.S. News, owned by the billionaire Mortimer Zuckerman,
rates 1,400 schools in lists of top universities, liberal arts
colleges and other categories. In the 2007 rankings published a
year ago, Princeton University in New Jersey was rated the best
college for undergraduates.
     In liberal arts, the top four schools among 215 rated were
Williams, in Williamstown, Massachusetts; nearby Amherst;
Swarthmore, in Pennsylvania; and Wellesley, also in
Massachusetts.
     Three-quarters of each school's score is based oninformation that is for the most part publicly available, such as
class size, graduation and acceptance rates, and alumni giving.
The controversial 25 percent comes from a ``reputational
survey,'' in which thousands of presidents, deans and provosts
are asked to grade other schools' reputations.

                      `Artificial Precision'

     ``The biggest problem with U.S. News-type rankings is that
they lend the whole exercise a kind of artificial precision which
is quite misleading,'' said Michael McPherson, the president of
the Spencer Foundation in Chicago, in an e-mail. ``To claim there
is a discernible objective difference in educational quality
between No. 2 and No. 3, or between No. 25 and No. 30, is
ridiculous.''
     McPherson is a former president of Macalester College of St.
Paul, Minnesota, ranked No. 24 in liberal arts by U.S. News.
     Russell Osgood, the president of Grinnell College in Iowa,
said low ratings can harm a college's ability to attract faculty
and students. While Osgood wrote a letter in June seeking changes
in the ranking methods, he still participates in the survey.


     Attracting presidents of the institutions with the highest
rankings would advance his cause, Thacker said.
     ``Yeah, I would like a big-name person to step up to the
plate,'' Thacker said. ``I'm waiting for that.''
     Williams, Amherst and Swarthmore have topped the liberalarts rankings since 1997. Amherst President Anthony Marx says the
criteria should be rewritten to favor colleges that enroll a
higher percentage of low-income students.
      Marx hasn't agreed to sign the protest letter, spokeswoman
Stacy Schmeidel said.
     After the Annapolis Group meeting, Williams decided it is
``going to do even less in referring to the rankings,'' said Jim
Kolesar, a spokesman for the college. Williams will stop
mentioning the survey results in its sports information and
admissions brochures, he said. The school hasn't decided whether
to sign the protest letter.

[Pat Coleman]

PBR -- who has the copyright to that story? I'm guessing not D3sports.com.

['gro]

I was just about to warn PBR of a possible PC backlash about posting an entire article.  Gro will get a late pass and give an extra copy to PBR.

['gro]

In Other News...

Gro posted a story a while back of a business trip to ATL where we stuck the new guy with an oversized bar tab.  Not sure if I mentioned that the new guy decided to blow off going to class the next day... well heard it through the vine that he got fired.


HA-Ha!

[PBR...]

mucho appreciated gro....normally pbr is very reluctant to post long articles as well as pbr understands where pat is coming from so pbr tries to abide by the rules of the board...was hoping pc would make a little exception as this had a number of good quotes and information and pbr agrees with the comment of this is not going away anytime soon and the pot is just starting to bubble on this as it was discussed several weeks ago on one of the boards pbr cant remember which one...

[JT]

In Other News...

Gro posted a story a while back of a business trip to ATL where we stuck the new guy with an oversized bar tab.  Not sure if I mentioned that the new guy decided to blow off going to class the next day... well heard it through the vine that he got fired.


HA-Ha!

Get him to spring for drinks and then get him too drunk for class the next day. Nice.  HR should have a new guy 101 course.  Guess they don't recognize the problem.

Reminds of the time JT and cohorts got "new to seminar guy" so wasted that he took a tranny back to his room.  Next day he said he figured it out and kicked the "gal" out before anything happened.

For some reason he left the job about a month later, no one knows why.

[Pat Coleman]

Well, I know PBR is in a position to understand the way these things work so I'm not asking him to delete it but I would like to just make sure that the source of the material is recognized somehow.

[labart96]

Re: USNWR

Wouldn't matter if so many counselors, parents, etc took these rankings in context and didn't believe in them verbatim.

TGP has never been a fan - albeit TGP is biased against them since both of his alma mater (undergrad and grad), have always been sand bagged by USNWR.  Glad to see some schools are working to fight the power.

[JT]

Re: USNWR

Wouldn't matter if so many counselors, parents, etc took these rankings in context and didn't believe in them verbatim.

TGP has never been a fan - albeit TGP is biased against them since both of his alma mater (undergrad and grad), have always been sand bagged by USNWR.  Glad to see some schools are working to fight the power.

Magazine or book ratings were more important before research via the Internet made it easier to personally rate schools.