FB: Liberty League

[Frank Rossi]

In time for the baseball postseason (and football regular season), apparently Sears (in their brick and mortar stores) is having a nice little sale on a tremendous flat-screen TV (remember our discussions in the E8 board last week about this issue).  Here's the scoop.

Panasonic just put out a couple 1080p plasma TVs, which tend to be better than LCDs with high-speed motion and the lack of bad pixel issues.  The one in question here is the Panasonic 50" TH-50PZ700U 1080p Plasma TV, which retails for $2,799.  Sears currently has it for $2,399.  If you don't have a Sears card, you can take $10 off for a new Sears card, as they're offering $250 off flat-screen TVs if you use your Sears card.  That takes the price down to $2,139 (+ tax).  Now through Saturday, Sears is apparently offering another 10% off with the use of a Sears card (although it's unclear whether you can stack or not)...This would place the price around $1,926 (+ tax).

A couple thoughts -- at 50", you definitely want a 1080p TV if you want to have the TV around for a few years -- BluRay and HD-DVD disks, PS3s and the like all utilize this standard now.  Also, Panasonic is a solid plasma brand.  If I hadn't bought the 720p version (at $2,750) last year in time for the World Cup finale (Italia!  Italia!), I'd buy this one in a heartbeat.  You can't beat sports on a big-screen HDTV...trust me.

(Edit:  Frys.com has the TV for $1,999.00 + $202 ground shipping and tax in mostly western states -- That makes it as low as $2,201.00 for those on the East Coast.  Frys.com is a reputable dealer that has several bricks and mortar stores.  If Sears doesn't stack the $250 and 10% offers, then Frys may be the better bet, assuming you don't mind receiving the TV by truck from possibly their shipping center in Ohio.)

[Regulator]

Frank,

A 50" plasma??  What exactly do you need to see in soccer that it takes 50" of widescreen to achieve?

[Knightstalker]

Frank, if it is a model that Panasonic is just putting out there KS would recommend waiting a couple of months on purchasing.  KS learned this while working for Panasonic, they tend to get a lot of returns on new plasmas each time they release them.

[superman57]

I just wanna argue the Bobby Abreu being "bought" that was a trade at last years trading dead line...where they basically gave up nothing except for taking his payroll...

[JQV]

I just wanna argue the Bobby Abreu being "bought" that was a trade at last years trading dead line...where they basically gave up nothing except for taking his payroll...

How does giving up nothing except money for payroll not equal being bought?

[superman57]

it was said that he was 100% bought he wasn't they did give up players...but no one of signifgance...it's not the same as the yankees signing Jason Giambi or Johnny Damon

[superman57]

and while we're at it lets take a look at the Pitching

Yankees
Wang-FS
Pettite-Bought...but he was originally FS
Mussina-bought
Clemens-bought
Kennedy/Hughes-FS


Chamberlin-fs
Rivera-FS


Boston
Becket-Traded/Bought
Schilling-Bought
Wakefield-Bought
Dice-K-Super bought
and whoever you want to include in the other slot was a FS

Gagne-traded/bought
Okajima-bought
Pappelbon-FS

[lewdogg11]

and while we're at it lets take a look at the Pitching

Yankees
Wang-FS
Pettite-Bought...but he was originally FS
Mussina-bought
Clemens-bought
Kennedy/Hughes-FS


Chamberlin-fs
Rivera-FS


Boston
Becket-Traded/Bought
Schilling-Bought
Wakefield-Bought
Dice-K-Super bought
and whoever you want to include in the other slot was a FS

Gagne-traded/bought
Okajima-bought
Pappelbon-FS

Wakefield was an ex-first baseman signed like 15 years ago.  How the HELL is he considered 'bought'?  If he isn't the face of the Red Sox franchise, I don't know who is.  You are delusional.

[Apple Jack]

FINALLY BRING IT ON!!! TIME TO WAX UP THE SLEDS SOON!!!

http://www.skiheavenly.com/video_cams/snapshots/

Ahhh I cant wait...the big choice for AJ is spend some cash on a TV or a new pair of atomic sticks....Nothern vt is already seeing a bunch of leaves turn and fall.  Not long my friend

[superman57]

and while we're at it lets take a look at the Pitching

Yankees
Wang-FS
Pettite-Bought...but he was originally FS
Mussina-bought
Clemens-bought
Kennedy/Hughes-FS


Chamberlin-fs
Rivera-FS


Boston
Becket-Traded/Bought
Schilling-Bought
Wakefield-Bought
Dice-K-Super bought
and whoever you want to include in the other slot was a FS

Gagne-traded/bought
Okajima-bought
Pappelbon-FS

Wakefield was an ex-first baseman signed like 15 years ago.  How the HELL is he considered 'bought'?  If he isn't the face of the Red Sox franchise, I don't know who is.  You are delusional.

it doesn't matter how long ago he signed....he was with Pittsburgh before he signed with boston...no matter what you want to say he was not originally a Red Sox

ear    Team    W    L    SV    GS    CG    SHO    IP    H    R    ER    HR    BB    K    ERA
1992    Pittsburgh    8    1    0    13    4    1    92.0    76    26    22    3    35    51    2.15
1993    Pittsburgh    6    11    0    20    3    2    128.1    145    83    80    14    75    59    5.61
1995    Boston    16    8    0    27    6    1    195.1    163    76    64    22    68    119    2.95
1996    Boston    14    13    0    32    6    0    211.2    238    151    121    38    90    140    5.15
1997    Boston    12    15    0    29    4    2    201.1    193    109    95    24    87    151    4.25
1998    Boston    17    8    0    33    2    0    216.0    211    123    110    30    79    146    4.58
1999    Boston    6    11    15    17    0    0    140.0    146    93    79    19    72    104    5.08
2000    Boston    6    10    0    17    0    0    159.1    170    107    97    31    65    102    5.48
2001    Boston    9    12    3    17    0    0    168.2    156    84    73    13    73    148    3.90
2002    Boston    11    5    3    15    0    0    163.1    121    57    51    15    51    134    2.81
2003    Boston    11    7    1    33    0    0    202.1    193    106    92    23    71    169    4.09
2004    Boston    12    10    0    30    0    0    188.1    197    121    102    29    63    116    4.87
2005    Boston    16    12    0    33    3    0    225.1    210    113    104    35    68    151    4.15
2006    Boston    7    11    0    23    1    0    140.0    135    80    72    19    51    90    4.63
2007    Boston    16    10    0    27    0    0    168.0    161    85    82    16    59    98    4.39
TOTALS    167    144    22    366    29    6    2600.0    2515    1414    1244    331    1007    1778    4.31

[lewdogg11]

and while we're at it lets take a look at the Pitching

Yankees
Wang-FS
Pettite-Bought...but he was originally FS
Mussina-bought
Clemens-bought
Kennedy/Hughes-FS


Chamberlin-fs
Rivera-FS


Boston
Becket-Traded/Bought
Schilling-Bought
Wakefield-Bought
Dice-K-Super bought
and whoever you want to include in the other slot was a FS

Gagne-traded/bought
Okajima-bought
Pappelbon-FS

Wakefield was an ex-first baseman signed like 15 years ago.  How the HELL is he considered 'bought'?  If he isn't the face of the Red Sox franchise, I don't know who is.  You are delusional.

it doesn't matter how long ago he signed....he was with Pittsburgh before he signed with boston...no matter what you want to say he was not originally a Red Sox

ear    Team    W    L    SV    GS    CG    SHO    IP    H    R    ER    HR    BB    K    ERA
1992    Pittsburgh    8    1    0    13    4    1    92.0    76    26    22    3    35    51    2.15
1993    Pittsburgh    6    11    0    20    3    2    128.1    145    83    80    14    75    59    5.61
1995    Boston    16    8    0    27    6    1    195.1    163    76    64    22    68    119    2.95
1996    Boston    14    13    0    32    6    0    211.2    238    151    121    38    90    140    5.15
1997    Boston    12    15    0    29    4    2    201.1    193    109    95    24    87    151    4.25
1998    Boston    17    8    0    33    2    0    216.0    211    123    110    30    79    146    4.58
1999    Boston    6    11    15    17    0    0    140.0    146    93    79    19    72    104    5.08
2000    Boston    6    10    0    17    0    0    159.1    170    107    97    31    65    102    5.48
2001    Boston    9    12    3    17    0    0    168.2    156    84    73    13    73    148    3.90
2002    Boston    11    5    3    15    0    0    163.1    121    57    51    15    51    134    2.81
2003    Boston    11    7    1    33    0    0    202.1    193    106    92    23    71    169    4.09
2004    Boston    12    10    0    30    0    0    188.1    197    121    102    29    63    116    4.87
2005    Boston    16    12    0    33    3    0    225.1    210    113    104    35    68    151    4.15
2006    Boston    7    11    0    23    1    0    140.0    135    80    72    19    51    90    4.63
2007    Boston    16    10    0    27    0    0    168.0    161    85    82    16    59    98    4.39
TOTALS    167    144    22    366    29    6    2600.0    2515    1414    1244    331    1007    1778    4.31

Tim Wakefield had a $175,000 contract in 1995.  Good thing the Sox ponied up for him.

Every player in the Major Leagues is paid...Certain players are 'bought'.

What that is, like Ortiz, is a great acquisition.

[Rolevio]

and while we're at it lets take a look at the Pitching

Yankees
Wang-FS
Pettite-Bought...but he was originally FS
Mussina-bought
Clemens-bought
Kennedy/Hughes-FS


Chamberlin-fs
Rivera-FS


Boston
Becket-Traded/Bought
Schilling-Bought
Wakefield-Bought
Dice-K-Super bought
and whoever you want to include in the other slot was a FS

Gagne-traded/bought
Okajima-bought
Pappelbon-FS

Wakefield was an ex-first baseman signed like 15 years ago.  How the HELL is he considered 'bought'?  If he isn't the face of the Red Sox franchise, I don't know who is.  You are delusional.

And Okajima was a free agent making only 1.25 million, wouldn't consider him bought either.  Well not in the sense only the giant clubs could get him, any team could afford his salary.

[superman57]

I would say that Varitek is less bought than Wakefield...as Varitek was brought to Boston is one of the more one sided trades ever... with if I'm correct Derek Lowe and Jason Veritek coming from Seatle for Heatcliffe Slocumb


but that's not what we are talking about...we are talking about players who came up through the farm system and players who were brought in as free agents or bought...whether they were bought for 5 cents or 50 million dollars it's all the same in that they did not start with that franchise

[lewdogg11]

I would say that Varitek is less bought than Wakefield...as Varitek was brought to Boston is one of the more one sided trades ever... with if I'm correct Derek Lowe and Jason Veritek coming from Seatle for Heatcliffe Slocumb


but that's not what we are talking about...we are talking about players who came up through the farm system and players who were brought in as free agents or bought...whether they were bought for 5 cents or 50 million dollars it's all the same in that they did not start with that franchise

You might be talking about that, but no one else is.  A player that is 'bought' means someone that was overpaid, that only the big market teams could afford.

(i.e. - NOT Tim Wakefield)

[lewdogg11]

...and a 4.3 40 is NOT blazing speed!!!

unless it's drinking one of these.